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(00:01) [music] We gold trusted gold buyers. >> [music] >> family lost because after that [music]
(00:48) moment members for watch that was very important that was the peak time of Max. Then again when it comes to nationalism community [laughter]
(01:39) was definitely very intense conflict area officer department. Definitely we have to have some standards [music] and same job. TV. So how do we do it? We go to colleges.
(02:34) Now we recently posh help desk start. [music] This is to handle sexual harassment at workplace. [music] >> [music] >> The girls are so scared. Welcome to crime dies. Guest dynamic woman IPS officerism factionism terrorism. Daring lady officer charge IPS DGC
(03:22) additional ACB and women safety wing. Women problem. Next generation Yeah. 1996
(04:22) people's next CRPF present Hyderabad as IG. Yes. The first lady officer, white cyber crime
(05:19) department. So, so inspectors and sub inspectors and >> [snorts] >> dance
(06:03) and fction. So, dance Thatction fight because after that
(06:54) And I feel that is the game changer. social counseling. [laughter] counseling [laughter]
(07:39) single strategy. Yeah, we'll drop that is not very important. Next straight away. Mhm. So that was a small short period. Okay. watch.
(08:37) So that was a very big challenge for us. intelligence collection. So thankfully six days but that was very important because so that that that taught me a lot about nationalism. that taught me a lot about how to handle uh crowds and how to handle my own force. So what is it that
(09:24) I can bring to my force basically? So uh Praashan TV that was the peak time of nationalism at that point of time and there were very good operations there. Then similarly stationism was there and we handled it. I'll only say that much. >> [laughter]
(10:22) >> Yes. 100% rowdies rowdism had to be controlled. Praasham district was very problematic there. So keeping close watch on them. We used to keep a close watch on them. It is it's important then we had tribals. So
(11:12) tribals. So interaction and we were able to communicate with them and TV what we call crimes as per law. fishing community then tribals road. So uh with the help of villagers, road construction,
(11:56) community policing initiatives important focus and community policing initiatives because why were all these committees formed? Because governance has to go to the doorstep of the people and officers just they have to reach out to the public. So how do we reach out to the public? Okay. And
(12:51) what are the issues? How can we help them? disability certifically physically then main almost so thating a lady is pregnant.
(13:44) So yesism. Yes. >> Yeah. Next and highway accident. So how do you deal with high accident highway accidents? How do you deal with rowdism? Communalism. Communalism was very important uh because we had to reach out to both the communities. peace committ because communal issues rumor is the
(14:36) basis. So rumors immediately no issue. We have been trained to handle each problem. Main was and also both were very important. So then again when it comes to nationalism uh again community policing worked a lot over there villagers to fishing community and as a result of that rapo they used to suggest
(15:21) to the nextites. So DCS and his wife both of them surrendered with with AK-47s and with landmines. Red operations. So it's a multi-pronged approach. We are encouraged surreners that is our main uh thing. Community policing uh definitely has to be done and then surrender and rehabilitation policy as a result of surrender obviously then operations intelligence collection they all happen simultaneously.
(16:05) Okay. Again, faction was very severe. Jetla was there but it was not as severe as seriously road accidents. A lot of steps were taken to curb road accidents at that point of time because uh it was almost called the death highway almost everyday. So we had so many speed then breath analyzers because drunken driving was always a problem over there. Then uh outside each
(16:50) village sometimes villages which are there on the main road >> people just come out of the village they're walking on the side of the road suddenly. So we had quite a few deaths because just outside villages because people are just standing there on the road and somebody so there we had to create lot of awareness amongst villagers also.
(17:16) Then we had to handle the highway. We also had to handle the state highways national highway and state highway. State highways problem. So uh there were different measures to handle it. I can't say that we succeeded but definitely impact. >> Okay. and copper wire. Yeah, I don't remember. As I said, those were more routine things for us.
(17:53) Yeah, [laughter] that's why. [laughter] [laughter] Okay. focus was HIV affected children rights grandparents HIV. So then it was a short tenure. Hyderabad.
(18:44) Okay. >> Then was a short period just 5 months. Yeah. uh already yeah then was very interesting because uh Albanian Muslims versus Christian Serbs >> because it is a UN mission so we have police contingents from all over the world UN countries so China, India, Pakistan and of course all the Eur European countries.
(19:23) So it was a very beautiful opportunity to learn the style of functioning of different countries. So American so it was a very very rich experience for us because it's a UN administered heavy continuous dayrolling nighting so definitely public listens system and culture is totally different and systems and processes are totally
(20:06) different. Policing is totally different. Policing was restricted to traffic policing basically crimes. Okay. And professional standards unit was uh to monitor crossover police service KPS. >> Okay. acts of omission or commissionary action. So KPS Kosovo police service was monitored by professional standards
(20:51) unit. Okay. And then anapura actually Uh no I went to TGPA Telana Police Academy. I was there for almost one year as DD outdoor. I was handling outdoor subjects. So almost 1300 sub inspectors. So training and then I went to as DAG Anandur range faction was the issue and
(21:44) uh there were two SPS one was Manisha and one was Shanavasim. Yeah. >> Next public service commission secretary public service commission public service commission. >> So interesting police department service commission recruitments again it was a very uh learning experience for me >> and uh public service commission then uh then I think we became IG's uh public service commission.
(22:19) Central IG training and all we handled and then I went on deputation. I was in ACB also then we went on deputation to uh CRPF and then 7 years in CRPF. >> CRB first to Bihar. >> First Bihar then Jammu then Sinagar and then Hyderabad. >> Okay. four southern sector uh Kashmir Kashmir was definitely uh very intense conflict area.
(23:00) So uh literally and if I was posted in Jammu and Kashmir for three and a half years uh that was a very very intense uh work for us. Southern sector challenge >> southern sector the border chhattisgar border and Orisa border >> were the challenges for us. So CRPF operations were primarily on these two. >> Next CF C. Yeah C A >> as ADG and then now we just got promoted as DGs.
(23:35) So yeah, present CS woman ACP very honest department corruption the system corruption makes the system hollow from inside. So definitely we have to have some standards and same it's not that I have a different standard for myself and a different standard for so mainly high-profile cases as you know what our effort in the last 10 months has been to complete all the UI cases sheets and we have succeeded. Now just a
(24:25) few cases are left which are pending for filing of charge sheet. So in the next 3 months we are hopeful that we'll be able to clear most of the cases. I can't say they're all competry case um land scam case anything case anything everything is different they're all each case is different >> all these are challenging each case requires so much of effort online betting case itself is uh very uh complicated. So uh the way we have to
(25:12) work through each layer to reach the top it is very complicated. So every case is different. Okay. Women safety. So women safety. So some very good initiatives have been introduced from Swati ma'am's time to present day. Some already my predecessors have introduced some very good initiatives.
(25:49) So one is to continue and to finetune and then problems depending on the situation. So So as I said focus to teach women how to protect themselves. Now our focus is to also bring in the men. >> Mhm. >> To rope in the men so that they can also be a part of women's safety.
(26:42) [snorts] We can't talk about women's safety only with women alone. auntie we need men support to handle women's safety so that's why the stand with her campaign was started because it's a campaign led by men in fact I will say that n life apart from my mother who has played a very important role in my life uh in making me who I am today but my father my grandfather and my brother-in-law the three important uh men in my life who have played a very important role in guiding me in uh giving me the support that I needed. So,
(27:18) uh I'm sure that with the support of men only, we can actually make society safe for women. Fatherient scientist he was in the art and production side convent St. Francis Hyder University of Pres. Presence of mind. You have to be more specific about that. What do you mean by presence of mind?
(28:11) It's a it's a very uh it's a very big challenge because situation different. So how do we do it? We go to colleges, we go to schools, we go to corporate sector for example. Now we recently posh help desk start. This is to handle uh sexual harassment at workplace. So it's a walk-in help desk. She can immediately come and complain.
(28:40) She can walk in, she can phone, she can mail, she can WhatsApp. So interesting regarding the kind of harassment. So different kinds of harassment, corporate sector. So when we learn then we create more awareness amongst women that uh this is the kind of trap and so that's how we learn. We learn from the problems which women are facing and then we help them to become more aware about it.
(29:12) >> Okay. Self-defense that's a very dicey area. but the girls don't have the courage to go and hit the man. They don't have that courage. So then I'm going to colleges. I said the girls are so scared. Yeah. So, girls are changing their
(30:03) roots. They are changing their clothes, what style they are wearing. They are changing the jobs because they are being harassed in workplace. So, and that is what I'm worried about. So uh economic offenses uh economic offenses the amount involvement is huge property offenses versus economic
(30:49) offenses. economic offenses money circulation schemes, chit fund schemes, uh Ponzi schemes, multi-level marketing schemes, job frauds, Internet fraud scheme. Fake scheme.
(31:42) and first registered G&D first 50,000 then 50,000 this is 100% fraud we do that is a problem so frauds competence levels confidence level qualification and correct. >> So that is a problem. >> Okay. Similarly, funds different rural areas funds
(32:31) same but authorized registration plus Old company and so Mutual fund
(33:21) problem 26 crime cyber crime. >> For me, uh, cyber crime is definitely problematic because of the kind of frauds, online arrest, >> the digital arrest, >> the digital arrest, then cyber frauds is definitely a problem. Economic frauds for me is the biggest problem. The white collar offenses. Now, economic frauds can be done online also.
(34:03) So, they're both uh overlapping onto the rent it low. There are almost 10 to 12 villages. So youngsters all the time fulltime only fraud. They know how to hack. They know how to hack into accounts. They know how to hack into your phone. Now diff
(34:49) almost 10 to 12 villages whether it is in Rajasthan side whether it is in harana side so for the public unknown numbers and schemes I've seen many senior citizens also calls In clearance, secondage
(35:39) recently I saw one senior citizen couple Jvanta earnings after retirement was some 28 lakhs. middle- class family, low middle-ass family. So at every stage in fact I keep telling my parents on a daily basis and delivery service or shadowax or some other delivery services they call you and they
(36:24) tell you butel details that's also a fraud. So different kinds of frauds are happening and we want the public to be very clearly aware bank fraud, job fraud, eit fund frauds, multi-level marketing schemes in amount that is a multi-level marketing scheme. Please don't get into it at all. Enrollment 100% multi-level marketing scheme Ponzi
(37:08) scheme which is uh which is illegal. So our concern is and for example online gambling online in spite of that. So uh we have to be very careful. >> Okay. human for our department. See, within our department, there is continuous training and skilling.
(37:54) Human intelligence. No, no, you're right. It is it has to be human intelligence uh to add to what technology is already doing and department continuous almost every week every month there are trainings to skill our own officers and to help them to understand now how do you investigate this so continuous skilling is a process humanigence.
(38:32) Human, human intelligence is very very important. Yes, definitely in between reliance on technology but human intelligence you are absolutely right. It it cannot be ignored. >> Okay. department. The police department is one of the best departments in terms of public interface. So to actually find a solution to the problems which people are facing and so I will suggest to the girls please
(39:23) come to the police department but uh when you come you should come with the feeling that I want to serve my society. I want to serve my country and you should be ready for any job. Same salary, same night forces across. So,
(40:09) so when we are talking about equality, you should be ready to do the same work as a man. >> So that's because of lack of support from the family. The boy doesn't have to when he comes here to work, he doesn't have to think about cooking, getting up at 5 in the morning. support from parents or in-laws or anyone else she will be able to do much better. So
(40:59) work life balance but The girls who come into the service at the lower levels particularly okay best platform police Department of [snorts] 24. Police Department.
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