Description: What does Umdat al-Salik (Reliance of the Traveller) actually teach about purification?
In this episode of "Nabi Bani Ismael Show", we read and examine 'Section E – Purification' from the Islamic jurisprudence book Umdat al-Salik, also known as 'Reliance of the Traveller'.
Some of the rulings and discussions may surprise you. We examine what the book says, discuss the relevant practices and Hadith references, and question the reasoning behind these religious rulings.
WHAT WE COVER IN THIS VIDEO
1. Ghusl after Janabah: The procedure of purification attributed to Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, including washing the hands, private parts and hair. 2. Women and Urine Leakage: The ruling concerning women experiencing continuous urine leakage and the discussion surrounding it. 3. Madhy and Salah: Can a person perform Salah after washing only the affected private part? 4. Prophet's Saliva – Pure or Impure? Hadith reports concerning companions using the Prophet's saliva and his saliva being mixed with food or drink. 5. Boy's Urine vs Girl's Urine: Why does the book distinguish between the urine of a baby boy and a baby girl? 6. Breaking Wind: What are the purification-related rulings concerning passing wind?
THE BOOK
Umdat al-Salik – Reliance of the Traveller Section E – Purification
This is a reading and examination of Islamic jurisprudence, not merely a general religious discussion.
WATCH, READ AND QUESTION
Have you read these rulings before? Were you aware of these distinctions?
Does understanding religious law require us to examine the original texts, Hadith references and the reasoning behind the rulings?
Watch the complete discussion and decide for yourself.
Transcript: (00:03) ఇప్పుడు ఐ వాంట్ షరియా ఐ వాంట్ షరియా ఐ వాంట్ షరియా రండి షరియాలోకి వెళ్దాం ఐ వాంట్ షరియా ఈ పార్ట్ ఎవరైనా చూసిన వాళ్ళు మోమినాలకి మాత్రం చూపించండి చాలు మోమినాలకి ముస్లిం ఆడవాళ్ళకి మంచిగానే చూపించండి చూడండి ఇది వీళ్ళు రాసుకున్న రియ నోటికవచ్చినట్టు అతాపత్త తెలియదు ఒక్క ముక్క తెలిీదు చదవరు ఏమి తెలీదు ఐ వాంట్ షరియా ఐ వాంట్ షరియా రండి చూద్దాం షరియ ఇదిగో రిలయన్స్ ఆఫ్ ద ట్రావెలర్ చూపిస్తున్నాను ఇది రిలయన్స్ ఆఫ్ ద ట్రావెలర్ ఉందత్ అల్ సాలిక్ ఇది షరియా (00:50) షఫీవాడి రియ ఇప్పుడు ఏ పార్ట్ వరకు అవసరమో ఆ పార్ట్ క్లీన్గా ఉంటే చాలు అది పాయింట్ ఎస్ అంతే ప్రాఫిట్ ఇంటర్కోర్స్ చేసిన తర్వాత ఎట్లా కడుక్కునేవాడు ఆ ఒక చేయితో ఒక చేతులు రెండు కడుక్కునేవాడు ఫస్ట్ ఆ చేతులతో కింద పీనస్ ని కడుక్కున్నాడు అట్లే రాసిఉంది హదీస్లో పీనస్ ని కడుక్కునేవాడు తర్వాత నీళ్ళ మిగతా నీళ్ళు ఇట్లా పైన ఇట్లా చల్లుకొని వెళ్ళిపోయేవాడు నమాజ్ చేయడానికి అంటే పీనస్ ని ఎట్లా కడుక్కునేవాడు ఆ నీళ్ళతో పీనస్ మీద పోసి పిసుక్కునేవాళ్ళా అంతకన్నా ఇంకేం చేస్తాడు ఇంకెట్లా కడుక్కునేది ఏం స్నానం చేయ స్నానం చేయమని చెప్పలా నీళ్ళతో పోసుకొని ఉత్త పీనస్ కి (01:25) తగిలేంత వరకు నీళ్ళు పోసుకునేది పిసుక్కునేది ఆ ముందుకి వెనక్కి లాక్కునేది ఇంక అంతకన్నా ఎట్లా క్లీన్ చేస్తాడు వీళ్ళు ఇప్పుడు చూడండి ఆడవాళ్ళకి చూడండి ఉత్త ప్రైవేట్ పార్ట్ క్లీన్ చేసుకో చాలు మిగతా అంతా చలుకోని వీళ్ళు వీళ్ళు ఏం మనుషులు వీళ్ళు ఇట్లాంటి మనుషులండి సరే మనం ముందుకు వెళ్తాం రండి ఈ 13.7 ఇది చదవండి. (01:43) పీపుల్ పీపుల్ అబుల్ టు హోల్డ్ బ్యాక్ ఇంటర్మిటంట్ డ్రాప్స్ ఆఫ్ యూరన్ కమింగ్ ఫ్రమ దెమ మస్ట్ టేక్ దసేame్ మెజర్స్ దట్ ఏ wమన్ విత్ క్రానిక్ వజైనల్ డిస్చార్జ్ డస్ అండ్ లైక్వైస్ ఫర్ ఎనీవన్ ఇన్ ఏస్టేట్ ఆఫ్ క్రానిక్ యన్ల్మెంట్ ఆఫ్ అబలేషన్ సచ్ యస్ కంటిన్యూల బ్రేకింగ్ విండ్ ఎక్స్క్రిమెంట్ ఆర్ మాదియా మాది ఓకే ఇక్కడ బ్రేకింగ్ విండ్ అంటే ఏంటి ఓకే అంటే అప్పుడప్పుడు వెజైనాలో నుంచి డిస్చార్జ్ ఎక్కువ ఉన్నప్పుడు గాలి కూడా వస్తూ ఉంటూ ఉంటుంది అన్నమాట అదే నేను అదన్నా అయిఉండొచ్చు లేదా పిత్తు అన్నా అయిఉండొచ్చు ఓకే ఓకే ఓకే ఇంకొకటి ఇక్కడ ఉచ్చ ఎందుకు కంట్రోల్ (02:22) కాదు ఉచ్చ యూరిన్ ఎందుకు కంట్రోల్ కాదు అంటే వెజైనాని ఎక్కువగా యూస్ చేసినప్పుడు అంటే సెక్షువల్ ఇంటర్కోర్స్ చాలా ఎక్కువగా చేసే వాళ్ళల్లో ఈ యూరిన్ కంట్రోల్ కాకుండా డ్రాప్స్ డ్రాప్స్ గా కారిపోవడం అనేది జరుగుతుంది. అంటే మొద్దు మారిపోయి ఉంటది ఆ ఏరియా అంత మొద్దు పారిపోయినోళ్ళు వీళ్ళు ఆ అంత మొద్దు పారిపోయిన వాళ్ళు వీళ్ళు వీళ్ళు చట్టాలు చేసుకున్నారు అది ప్రపంచం అంతా ఇయ్యడానికి ఈ చట్టాలు తీసుకొచ్చి భారతదేశంలో ఏం పీకుదాం అని ఈ ముదిరిపోయినా ముద్దు పారిపోయినా ఆ ఈ పెరాలసిస్ వచ్చిన వెజైనాలు పట్టుకొని వెగినాలు పట్టుకొని తీసుకొచ్చి ఆ ఏం (02:57) చేస్తామండి ఇక్కడ ఇది చూడండి క్రోనికల్ వెగినల్ డిస్చార్జ్ ఏంటి వీళ్ళు స్టేట్ ఆఫ్ క్రోనికల్ అన్లేషన్ అబ్డల్షన్ బ్రేకింగ్ ఆ ఇది చదవండి మదీ మదీ అంటే ఏంది చార్జి పిటి ని అడిగి చెప్పండి ఎవరైనా ఎంఏడి హెచ్ వై మ్యాది ఏమ అడుగుతారంటే వాట్ ఇస్ మది ఇన్ ద రిలయన్స్ ఆఫ్ ట్రావలర్ అని అడగండి చెప్పుద్ది మదిరిలయన్స్ ఆఫ్ ద ట్రావెలర్ ఈ పాయింట్ 13 లో మద్ది అంటే ఇది లైంగిక ఉద్రేకం వల్ల వచ్చే పలుచని పారదర్శక ద్రవం లైంగిక ఉద్రేకం వల్ల వచ్చే పలసటి పలసటి ఏంటి అన్న ప్రీ కం అంటారు కదా అది చెప్తున్నాను ఇంటర్కోర్స్ వల్ల మది రావచ్చు ఇది పురుషులకు వస్తుంది మహిళలలో కూడా ఇలాంటిది (03:42) ఉండొచ్చు కానీ ఈ టర్మ్ ని ఎక్కువగా పురుష ఇప్పుడు అర్థమైందా ఏంటి మది అని ఇక్కడ లూబ్రికెంట్ లాగా ఎగజక్ట్లీ ఫీమేల్ కి ఇక్కడ ఫీమేల్ మెన్స్ వెజైనా డిస్చార్జ్ గురించి కదా మాట్లాడేది ఆ వెజైనా డిస్చార్జ్ లో మాది ఏంటంటే వాళ్ళ ఫీమేల్ ఫీమేల్ కి లూబ్రికెంట్ డిస్చార్జ్ అవుతుంది కదా మేల్ కి వచ్చినట్టు ఫీమేల్ మేల్ కి వచ్చే డిస్చార్జ్ సో ఇక్కడ ఏం మాట్లాడుతున్నాడు ఈ ప్రీకమ్ ఇదంతా ఉన్నప్పుడు వాష్ చేసుకోవాలంట వీళ్ళు ఈ ప్రీకమ్లు అది ఆ లూబ్రికెంట్లు వెజనలు పెట్టుకొని ఎందుకు వస్తారు ప్రేయర్ కి ఎందుకు వస్తారు సార్ వీళ్ళు ప్రేయర్ కి (04:17) అంటే 24 గంటలు వీళ్ళు ఇదే పని మీద ఎవరు లేకపోతే ఏలుతో చేతులతో ఆ ఇట్లా చేసుకునే వాళ్ళు ఉన్నట్టున్నారు వీళ్ళు ఇక్కడ మీ డిస్కషన్ కూడా చూడండి ఇక్కడ ఏం జరుగుతుంది దట్విచ్ comes ఫ్రమ ద మౌత్ ఆఫ్ ఏ స్లీపింగ్ పర్సన్ ఇస్ ఇంప్ూర్ ఇఫ్ ఫ్రమ ద స్టమక్ బట్ pూర్ ఇఫ్ ఇట్ comస్ ఫ్ర సలైవ టాక్స్ నురగ నోట్లో నుంచి నురగ వచ్చేది ప్యూర్ అంట ఆ నోట్లో నుంచి కార్చుకునే తొంగ కూడా సొల్లు ఆ సొల్లు కూడా ఒక ప్యూరే అంట పవిత్రం అని చెప్తున్నా స్టమక్ ఇదిగో స్టమక్ లో నుంచి వచ్చేద అయితే ఇంప్యూర్ అంటే స్టమక్ లో నుంచి ఏమ వస్తుంది చెప్పండి స్టమక్ లో నుంచి (04:51) వచ్చేది వాంతి ఎస్ ఎస్ స్టమక్ లో నుంచి వచ్చేది అంటే వాంతి వాంతి అయితే ఇంప్యూర్ నోట్లో నుంచి సొల్లు కార్చుకుంటే ప్యూర్ చూసారా అల్ లాక్ బెయిన్ల స్తుతులు సమర్పించుకోండి ఎందుకు వామిట్ అయితే నజస్ అంట నోట్లో కారే సొల్లు ఉంటుంది చూసారా నోట్లో నుంచి కారే సొల్లు అది ప్యూర్ అంట పోయి నాకిరండి పోండి నాకండి అందుకు కదా వీళ్ళు ఇది ఎందుకు తెలుసా ఈ చట్టం చేసింది నేను దీనికి ఎందుకు అనేది రీజన్ కూడా ఇస్తాను మీకు మీకు తెలుసో తెలియదో ఈ ఉమ్ముకి ఇస్లాం కి సంబంధం ఏంటో తెలుసా ఉమ్ము ఉమ్ము ఇది సలైవా కదా ఇది బేసికల్గా సలైవా డాక్ ఓకే ఉమ్ము కూడా సలైవానే కదా ఈ (05:28) సలైవా కి ఇస్లాం కి ఏమి లింక్ మీకు ఎవరికైనా తెలుసా ఏమో తెలియద కాకపోతే వాళ్ళు ప్రతి ప్రతి తినే దాంట్లోన ఊస్తారు పక్కనోళ్ళకి ఇచ్చే దాంట్లో ఊస్తారు. ఏదైనా ప్రాఫిట్ మొహమ్మద్ ఇన్స్టెన్సస్ మీకుేమనా తెలుసా నేను చెప్తా రెండు ఇన్స్టెన్సస్ జరిగింది ఒకటి ఈయన పిండి ఒక చోటికి ఎక్స్పిడిషన్ కి పోతే జనాలందరికీ సరిపోదు పిండి ఏది చపాతీలు ఆ టైపులో ఏదో చేయడానికి ఫుడ్ సరిపోకపోతే ఆ ఫుడ్ లో పోయి ఈయన ఊస్తాడు అని ఆ ఫుడ్ డబుల్ అయిపోద్దంట త్రిపుల్ అయిపోద్దంట అందరికీ సరిపోతుందంట అది ఒకటి ఇంకొకటి ఈయన ఇప్పుడు మీరు పళ్ళు తోముకునేటప్పుడు నీళ్లు నోట్లో వేసుకొని పుక్కులు ఇచ్చి (06:00) ఊస్తారు చూసారా నీళ్ళు నోట్లో పళ్ళు తోముకునే తర్వాత అట్లా ఈయన పూస్తే ఈయన ఊస్తే ఆ ఊసిన నీళ్ళని పట్టుకొని ముఖానికి రుద్దుకొని నోట్లో పోసుకునేవాళ్ళు ఈయన సహాబా చెప్పేసుకునే నవ్వలేకపోతున్నారా ఊస్తే ఆ ఊసిన నీళ్ళని పట్టుకొని జాగ్రత్తగా పరిగెట్టుకుంటూ పోయి గిన్నెల్లో కలెక్ట్ చేసుకొని పోయి ఇక తాగేవాళ్ళు మొఖానికి పూసుకునేవాళ్ళు అద్దుకునేవాళ్ళు ఫ్రిడ్జ్లో పెట్టుకొని శర్బత్తులు చేసుకునేవాళ్ళు ఇక్కడ దానివల్ల ఇక్కడ చూసారా శలైవా ఆ ప్యూర్ అంట పోయి నాకిరండి ఎవరు అప్పుడు ఫ్రిడ్జ్లు లేవు కదా ఆ అప్పుడు ఫ్రిడ్జ్లు లేవు నిజమే పాయింటే (06:42) ఇప్పుడు ఫ్రిడ్జ్ లో పెట్టుకోండి తర్వాత ఇంకొకటి చూపిస్తానండి కేవలం తల్లిపాలు మాత్రమే తాగే మగ శిశువు మూత్రం పడిన చోట ఆ ప్రాంతంలో ఎక్కువ భాగం తడిసేల తగినంత నీటిని చల్లడం ద్వారా ఆ వస్త్రాన్ని శుద్ధి చేయవచ్చు అక్కడ నీరు ప్రవహించాల్సిన అవసరం లేదు కానీ ఆడశిశువు మూత్రం పడితే పెద్ద విషయంలో పెద్దల విషయంలో అలాగే ఆ వస్త్రాన్ని కడిగి శుభ్రం చేయాలి. (07:10) ఏయ్ ఏయ్ వాడు ఊరిని ప్యూరిఫై చేసుకొని ఏం చేసుకుంటారు అదే అదే ఆడపాప ఉచ్చ అయితే ఆడపిల్లది ఉత్స అయితే మరి వాష్వే యస్ ఆన్ అడల్ట్ పెద్దవాళ్ళది ఎట్లాగయతే కడిగేస్తామో అట్లా కడిగేయాలి ఏమా డిస్క్రిమినేషన్ ఆ పేట్రియార్కీ గురించి వీళ్ళ మాట్లాడేది సరే ఒకటి పేట్రియార్కి రెండు ఈ ఉచ్చని ప్యూరిఫై చేసుకొని ఏం చేస్తారు ఆ క్లాత్ ని మొత్తం ఉతికే ఇది కూడా లేదే వీళ్ళ దగ్గర పిల్లోడయతే ఉచ్చ పోసుకుంటే బట్టల మీద బట్టంతా ఉతకాల్సిన పనిలే ఊరికే నీళ్లుు చలితే చాలు అదే ఆడ పాప ఉచ్చ అయితే మొత్తం ఉతకాల పెద్దోళ్ళు పోస్తే ఉతికినట్టు అది కూడా కేవలం తల్లి పాల మీద ఫీడ్ (07:57) అవుతున్న బేబీ అయితే
Title: ప్రియురాలు కాదు, స్పై నాగు! | Hari Raghav | Square Talks
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Description: ప్రపంచ ప్రఖ్యాత చిప్ తయారీ సంస్థ NVIDIA CEO జెన్సన్ హువాంగ్ వ్యక్తిగత జీవితం ఇప్పుడు అంతర్జాతీయ వివాదంగా మారింది. ఆలిస్ హువాంగ్ అనే చైనా మహిళతో ఆయనకు సన్నిహిత సంబంధం ఉన్నట్లు అంతర్జాతీయ మీడియా కథనాలు వెల్లడించాయి. ఈ వ్యవహారం కేవలం వివాహేతర సంబంధానికే పరిమితం కాకుండా అమెరికా–చైనా గూఢచర్య అనుమానాలతో ముడిపడింది.
ఆలిస్ హువాంగ్, హువాంగ్ లే అనే పేరుతో కూడా గుర్తింపు పొందినట్లు వార్తలు వచ్చాయి. సింగపూర్‌కు చెందిన Megaspeed International అనే సంస్థతో ఆమెకు సంబంధాలున్నట్లు నివేదికలు పేర్కొన్నాయి. ఈ సంస్థ NVIDIA చిప్స్, డేటా సెంటర్ వ్యాపారాలతో సంబంధం కలిగి ఉంది. చైనాకు అమెరికా ఎగుమతి ఆంక్షలను తప్పించుకుని అత్యాధునిక AI చిప్స్ చేరాయా అనే కోణంలోనూ అనుమానాలు వ్యక్తమయ్యాయి.
అమెరికా అధికారులకు ఆలిస్ హువాంగ్‌కు చైనా గూఢచార సంస్థలతో సంబంధాలున్నాయనే అనుమానాలు ఉన్నట్లు మీడియా కథనాలు వెల్లడించాయి. అయితే ఆమె గూఢచారి అని నిరూపించే బహిరంగ ఆధారాలు లేవు. చైనా ప్రభుత్వం ఈ ఆరోపణలను ఖండించింది.
నవంబర్ 8న జెన్సన్ హువాంగ్ తన భార్యాపిల్లలకు క్షమాపణలు చెబుతూ, భార్యకు నమ్మకద్రోహం చేసినట్లు అంగీకరించారు. మరోవైపు NVIDIA బోర్డు ఈ వ్యవహారంపై స్వతంత్ర విచారణ ప్రారంభించింది. కంపెనీ రహస్యాలకు లేదా అమెరికా జాతీయ భద్రతకు నష్టం జరిగిందని భావించడానికి ప్రస్తుతం కారణం లేదని సంస్థ తెలిపింది.
ఒక వ్యక్తిగత సంబంధం, ప్రపంచ AI సామ్రాజ్యం, అమెరికా–చైనా సాంకేతిక యుద్ధం... ఈ మూడు అంశాలు ఇప్పుడు ఒకే వివాదంలో కలిశాయి. అసలు ఇందులో ఎంత నిజం ఉందనేది విచారణ తేల్చాల్సి ఉంది.
Transcript: (00:10) [సంగీతం] అలిస్ హువాంగ్ 43 సంవత్సరాల చైనీస్ అమ్మాయి ఒక్కసారిగా ప్రపంచం మొత్తం ఈ అమ్మాయి పేరు మారుమోగిపోయింది. ఈ అమ్మాయి వలన అమెరికన్ షేర్ మార్కెట్లో ఎన్విడియా అనేటువంటి టాప్ మోస్ట్ ఆ కంపెనీ షేర్స్ దాదాపుగా 200 బిలియన్ డాలర్స్ నష్టపోయింది. ఇంటర్నేషనల్ మీడియా ప్రతి దేశంలోనూ ఈ అమ్మాయి పేరే మారుమోగింది. ఎవరు ఈ అమ్మాయి? ఎందుకు ఈ అమ్మాయి పేరు అంతగా ఆ మీడియాలో చెక్కర్లు కొడుతూ ఉంది. (00:55) అలిస్ హువాంగ్ అనేటువంటి అమ్మాయి చైనాకి చెందినటువంటి చైనా ఆరిజిన్ అమ్మాయి. ఈ అమ్మాయి ఆ అమెరికాలోని ఒక చిప్స్ మ్యానుఫ్యాక్చర్ చేసేటువంటి ఎన్విడియా అనేటువంటి ఒక ఆర్గనైజేషన్ ఉంది ఒక కంపెనీ. ఆ మన ఆర్టిఫిషియల్ ఇంటెలిజెన్స్ గాని లేదంటే ఈ కంప్యూటర్లు హై స్పీడ్ కంప్యూటర్లు వాడటానికి మనం సహజంగా చిప్స్ ని ఆ సెలెక్ట్ చేసుకుంటూ ఉంటాము. (01:23) గేమ్స్ ఆడేటువంటి పిల్లలకి ఈ ఎన్విడియా గురించి బాగా తెలుసు. ఎన్విడియా అనేటువంటి చిప్స్ ఉన్నట్లయితే అవి సహజంగా ఏమవుతది అంటే కంప్యూటర్ హై డేటా ని ప్రాసెస్ చేసినప్పుడు చాలా హీట్ జనరేట్ చేస్తూ ఉంటాయి. హ్యాంగ్ అయిపోతూ ఉంటాయి. అండ్ స్పీడ్ కూడా ఉండవు. సో గేమ్స్ ఆడే వాళ్ళకి హై స్పీడ్ కావాలి కాబట్టి వాళ్ళు గ్రాఫిక్ కార్డులు అవి ఇవి వాడుతూ ఉంటారు. (01:45) అక్కడ వాడేటువంటి చిప్ ఏం వాడుతున్నాం అనేది చాలా ఇంపార్టెంట్. సో వాళ్ళందరికీ తెలుసు ఎన్విడియా చిప్స్ అనేవి చాలా క్వాలిటీ ఉంటాయి చాలా బాగా ఉంటాయి అని. వాళ్ళు చాలా హై టెక్నాలజీ హై లెవెల్ స్పీడ్ లో రన్ అయ్యేటువంటి చిప్స్ ని ప్రొడ్యూస్ చేస్తూ చాలా సక్సెస్ అయింది ఆ కంపెనీ. ఆ కంపెనీ ఇటీవల దాని యొక్క విలువ నాలుగున్నర ట్రిలియన్ డాలర్స్ గా ఆ పరిగణించారు. (02:13) నాలుగున్నర ట్రిలియన్ డాలర్స్ అంటే మన భారత దేశపు జీడీపీ కంటే ఎక్కువ ఒక కంపెనీ యొక్క విలువ. భారతదేశం మొత్తం ప్రభుత్వం జీడీపీ ఎంతైతే ఉందో దానికంటే ఎక్కువ ఒక కంపెనీకే అంత విలువ ఉంది అనేటువంటిది ఒక సంచలనంగా మారింది. అటువంటి కంపెనీ ఆ కంపెనీ ఆ ఎర్లీ 90స్ లోనే ఎప్పుడో స్టార్ట్ అయింది. దాని యొక్క కో ఫౌండర్ కం సీఈఓ ఇప్పుడు సీఈఓ అండ్ కో ఫౌండర్ అయినటువంటి జెన్సన్ హువాంగ్ జెన్సన్ హువాంగ్ అనేటువంటి వ్యక్తి ఆయన ని ఈ అమ్మాయి హనీ ట్రాప్ చేసింది అనేటువంటి ఆరోపణలు వచ్చాయి. (02:53) ఇది ప్రపంచంలో మీడియా మొత్తం కూడా హల్చల్ చేస్తూ ఉంది. ఏంటి హనీ ట్రాప్ అంటే మనం చిన్నప్పుడు చూసి ఉంటాము చాలా చందమామ కథలు విని ఉంటాము లేదంటే నేను చిన్నప్పుడు విజయవాడ వెళ్ళినప్పుడు నేను నైన్త్ ఎయిత్ క్లాస్ పాస్ అయ్యి నైన్త్ క్lass వెళ్ళేటప్పుడు సమ్మర్ హాలిడేస్ లో విజయవాడ వెళ్ళాను. అక్కడ రాజ్ యువరాజ్ థియేటర్లో సింహాసనం అని సూపర్ స్టార్ కృష్ణ తన దర్శకత్వంలో ఒక సినిమాని ప్రొడ్యూస్ చేశాడు. (03:17) ఆయనే డబుల్ యాటింగ్ చేశార అందులో మందాకిని అనే హీరోయిన్ ని ఒక విషకన్య లాగా తయారు చేస్తారు అది మన చందమామ కథల్లో వింటూ ఉంటాం. ఆ దేశానికి ఆ రాజుకి చాలా నమ్మకస్తులు అయినటువంటి మంత్రులు ఉంటారు మన కట్టప్ప లాంటి వాళ్ళు. వాళ్ళు ఏం చేస్తారంటే రాజును దాటి కూడా వాళ్ళు శ్రద్ధ తీసుకుంటూ వాళ్ళ కూతుర్నో ఇంకొక పెంచుకున్న అమ్మాయినో రోజు కొంచెం కొంచెం విషం ఇచ్చి విషకన్యగా తయారు చేస్తారని కథలు ఉంటాయి. (03:43) నిజ జీవితంలో అది సాధ్యపడదు కానీ విషకన్యను తయారు చేస్తారు ఆ విషకన్య శత్రు రాజు ఎవరైతే పోటీదారుడు ఉన్నాడో అతని దగ్గరికి పంపించి అతన్ని మోహించి అతన్ని మెల్లగా ట్రాప్ లో పెట్టి అతన్ని సెక్స్ ఈమెతో సెక్స్ లో పార్టిసిపేట్ చేసేసరికి ఆ యువరాజు చనిపోవడం జరుగుతూ ఉంటది ఇది మనం జానపద సినిమాల్లో చూస్తూ ఉంటాం. అటువంటిదే ఇప్పుడు కార్పొరేట్ రంగంలో హనీ ట్రాప్ నడుస్తూ ఉంటది. (04:08) అయితే విషకన్యలు కాదు వీళ్ళు. కానీ హనీ ట్రాప్ అంటే ఏంటంటే వేరే మన కాంపిటీటర్ ఉన్నటువంటి ఆర్గనైజేషన్ లో చాలా టాలెంటెడ్ పీపుల్ ఉంటారు. వాళ్ళు ఆ ఏదో ఒక విధంగా ఆ ఆ యొక్క కంపెనీలోని సీక్రెట్స్ తెలుసుకుంటానికి అందమైన ఆడపిల్లల్ని ఈ కంపెనీలో రిక్రూట్ చేసుకుని అక్కడికి మళ్ళీ పంపించి అందులో జాయిన్ అయ్యి వాళ్ళతోని ఏదో ఒక విధంగా రిలేషన్ ఏర్పరుచుకొని ఆ ఏదో ఒక విధంగా అక్కడ ఉన్న సీక్రెట్లు అన్నీ తెలుసుకుంటానికి కానీ లేదంటే సమ్ టైమ్స్ వాళ్ళ కంపెనీ నుంచి వెళ్ళిపోకుండా ఉండటానికి ఇది మన ఇండియన్ సాఫ్ట్వేర్ రంగంలో కూడా ఉంటుంది. (04:43) చాలామంది నా క్లైంట్స్ కూడా ఎక్స్ప్రెస్ చేశారు చాలాసార్లు కౌన్సిలింగ్ లోనూ ఈవెన్ ప్రోగ్రామ్స్ లో కూడా. హైలీ టాలెంటెడ్ ఉన్నటువంటి పీపుల్ కి ఏం చేస్తారంటే కొంతమంది ఫీమేల్ ని రిక్రూట్ చేసుకుని వాళ్ళతోని ఫ్రెండ్షిਪ చేసి రిలేషన్ లో ఉండేలాగా ఎక్స్ట్రా మ్యారిటల్ ఎఫ్ఐఆర్ పెట్టుకునేలాగా వాళ్ళని ఎంకరేజ్ చేస్తారు. (05:01) ఆ రిలేషన్ కోసం వాళ్ళు ఇక్కడే ఉండిపోతూ ఉంటారు. ఇటువంటి హనీ ట్రాప్ లు నడుస్తూ ఉంటాయి. ఇలాగే గూఢచర్యం ఈ సైనికాలకు సైనికులకు సంబంధించినటువంటి రహస్యాలను బయట పెట్టడానికి ముఖ్యంగా ఈ ఆడపిల్లల్ని ఆ సైనిక అధికారులకి ఎరగా వేస్తూ ఉంటారు. అమెరికా కూడా చేస్తూ ఉంటది. అండ్ ఇటు పాకిస్తాన్ ని ఆయనని సైనిక అధికారిని అమెరికా పిలిచి అక్కడ రకరకాలుగా వాళ్ళకి ట్రీట్స్ ఇవ్వటము వాళ్ళని వీళ్ళ కంట్రోల్ లో పెట్టుకోవడం కోసం ఈ శత్రు దేశాలు కాకపోయినా మిత్ర దేశాల్లో ఉన్నటువంటి మిలిటరి అఫీషియల్స్ కూడా ఇటువంటివి వాడుతూ ఉంటారు. (05:36) అయితే ఈ కేసులో ఏమైంది? ఈ కేసులో జెన్సన్ హువాంగ్ అనే ఆయన ఆయన ఆ కంపెనీకి కో ఫౌండర్ కం సీఈఓ. ఈ కంపెనీ యొక్క స్ట్రక్చర్ మామూలుగా హైరార్కీ ఇలా పిరమిడ్ లాగా కాకుండా అందరూ సీఈఓ కే రిపోర్ట్ చేసేలాగా సెకండ్ లెవెల్ లో ఎవరూ లేకుండా ఆయన డిజైన్ చేసుకున్నారు. కంపెనీ చాలా పెద్ద సక్సెస్ అయింది. ప్రపంచంలోనే అత్యంత ఎక్కువ విలువ ఉన్నటువంటి కంపెనీగా నాలుగున్నర ట్రిలియన్ డాలర్స్ విలువైనటువంటి కంపెనీగా ఇది పరిగణించబడుతుంది. (06:09) ఈయన అయితే వీళ్ళు ఏం చేస్తారంటే చిప్స్ తయారుచేస్తారు హై స్పీడ్ కి వాడేటువంటి ఆర్టిఫిషియల్ ఇంటెలిజెన్స్ కి ముఖ్యంగా సైనికాధికారులు సైన్యం సైన్యము మనం చూసాం కదా చాట్ జిపిటి గాని వీటికంటే వీటిలో అడ్వాన్స్డ్ వెర్షన్స్ సైన్యం వాడుతూ ఉంటుంది యుద్ధాల్లో మనం అమెరికా ఇరాన్ వార్ అప్పుడు కూడా అమెరికా ఆంత్రోపిక్ డెవలప్ చేసినటువంటి ఏఐ ని వాడిందని మనం విన్నాం. (06:37) అలాగే ఇండియా కూడా ఆపరేషన్ సింధూర్లో ఆర్టిఫిషియల్ ఇంటెలిజెన్స్ వాడింది. వీళ్ళు చాలా అడ్వాన్స్డ్ లెవెల్ లో ఉంటాయి మనం రెగ్యులర్ గా వాడే దానికంటే ఒక 10 టైమ్స్ అంతకంటే ఎక్కువ కూడా అడ్వాన్స్డ్ ఉంటాయి. వీళ్ళకి కావలసినటువంటి చిప్స్ ని ఆ ఎన్విడియా సప్లై చేస్తూ ఉంటది మొత్తం ప్రపంచం మొత్తంలో ఎన్విడియా చిప్స్ అనేవి చాలా బాగా హై స్పీడ్ గా పనిచేస్తాయి అన్నమాట అయితే ఈ ఏఐ రంగంలో వచ్చిన పోటీ వలన అమెరికన్ ప్రెసిడెంట్ ట్రంప్ ఏం చేశాడంటే ఈ ఎన్విడియా చిప్స్ ని చైనాకి అమ్మకుండా బ్యాన్ చేశారు. (07:08) ఎందుకంటే చైనా వీళ్ళ కాంపిటీటర్ గా తయారవుతుంది కాబట్టి చైనాకి అమ్మకుండా బ్యాన్ చేశారు. చైనాకి ఇప్పుడు వాళ్ళు ఎంత ఆర్టిఫిషియల్ ఇంటెలిజెన్స్ మీద వర్క్ చేసినా ఈ ఎన్విడియా తో పోటీ పడే చిప్స్ లేకపోవడం వలన అంత స్పీడ్ వీళ్ళు జనరేట్ చేయలేకపోతున్నారు. అయితే ఇలా చైనాకి దొరకకుండా బ్యాన్ చైనా అనేది చాలా పెద్ద మార్కెట్ ప్రపంచంలోనే భారతదేశము మరియు చైనా అనే చాలా పెద్ద మార్కెట్ 150 కోట్లు ఇక్కడ దాదాపుగా 150 కోట్లు చైనాలో 300 కోట్ల మంది 900 కోట్లు అంటే దాదాపు 33% పీపుల్ ఇక్కడ ఈ రెండు దేశాల్లోనే ఉన్నారు. (07:44) అటువంటి చైనాకి అమ్మకుండా చైనా చాలా అమెరికా తర్వాత బాగా ఆర్థికంగా బలంగా ఉన్నటువంటి దేశం. అంత పెద్ద మార్కెట్ ని అక్కడ బ్యాన్ చేయడం వలన ఎన్విడియా కి మార్కెట్ దెబ్బతింది తన యొక్క ప్రాఫిట్స్ దెబ్బతినే అవకాశం ఉంది. ఈయన జెన్సన్ హువాంగ్ ట్రంప్ తోని చాలా సార్లు ఆయన రిక్వెస్ట్ చేసుకున్నారు ప్రభుత్వాన్ని రిక్వెస్ట్ చేశారు. (08:10) ఈ విధంగా చైనాకి బ్యాన్ చేయటం వలన మాకు మార్కెట్ దెబ్బ తింటుంది. మేము ఇంత కష్టపడి, ఇంత ఇన్వెస్ట్ చేసి ఇంత డబ్బు, మ్యాన్ పవర్ అంతా ఇన్వెస్ట్ చేసి డెవలప్ చేసింది. మా మార్కెట్ కిల్ అవుతుంది కదా అనేటువంటి ఒక అభిప్రాయాన్ని వాళ్ళు వ్యక్తపరిస్తే అప్పటికే ఒప్పుకోలేదు. ఎందుకంటే చైనా మిలిటరీలో గనుక వాళ్ళు దీన్ని వాడుకుని డెవలప్ అయితే అమెరికా సెక్యూరిటీకి త్రెట్ వస్తుందని ఆ ఒప్పుకోలేదు కానీ సెకండ్ లెవెల్ అంటే అంత ఫాస్ట్ లేకుండా సెకండ్ లెవెల్ లో ఉన్నటువంటి చిప్స్ ని నువ్వు అమ్ముకోవచ్చు అని పర్మిషన్ ఇచ్చారు. (08:45) అప్పుడు ఎన్విడియా కావాలని చైనా కోసం తక్కువ స్పీడ్ ఉండేటువంటి చిప్స్ ని కూడా తయారు చేసి చైనా మాకి అమ్మటం మొదలు పెట్టింది. ఇది జరుగుతుంది. అయితే ఈ క్రమంలో చైనా తప్ప మిగతా దేశాలందరూ కూడా ఎన్విడియా క్లైంట్స్ ఏ కాబట్టి ఒకసారి అమెరికన్ ఆ గూఢచారి సంస్థలు ఉంటాయి కదా ఎఫ్బిఐ లాంటివి ఎఫ్బిఐ ఏనో మరొకటో వెళ్లి మలేషియాలో ఒక దగ్గర చూసినట్లయితే ఒక కంపెనీలో అక్కడ అన్ ప్యాక్డ్ ఉన్నటువంటి చిప్స్ కొన్ని ఎన్విడియా అయ్యి కనిపించినాయి. (09:16) అన్ ప్యాక్డ్ ఉన్నాయి అంటే ప్యాక్ చేయకుండా ఓపెన్ గా ఉన్నటువంటి కుప్పలు కుప్పలు మనకి ఎట్లాగైతే ఓటర్ కార్డులు యమునా నదిలో దొరికినాయి ఇలా చెబుతున్నారో ఆ విధంగా దొరికినాయి. ఏంటివి అని వాళ్ళు ఎంక్వైరీ చేస్తే చైనాకి ఇన్డైరెక్ట్ గా ఈ చిప్స్ వెళ్తున్నాయి అనేది దాదాపు వన్ ఇయర్ బ్యాక్ ఏ తెలిసింది. ఎన్విడియా సంస్థ నుంచి చిప్స్ అయితే చైనాకి వెళ్తున్నాయి అనేది ట్రంప్ కి అప్పుడే రిపోర్ట్ చేశామని చెప్పారు. (09:40) అప్పుడు ట్రంప్ దాన్ని ఏమీ సీరియస్ గా తీసుకోలేదు, అనుమానించలేదు. అయితే ఇప్పుడు బయట పడింది ఏంటి అని అంటే ఈ సడన్లీ ఆ ఏవైతే గూఢచారి సంస్థలు బయట పెట్టినటువంటి సమాచారంతో ఈ జెన్ జెన్సన్ హువాంగ్ అనేటువంటి సీఈఓ ఆయన ఒక స్టేట్మెంట్ చేశాడు. ఆయన ఏమన్నాడు వాళ్ళు ఈ గూఢచారి సంస్థ ఏం చెప్పిందంటే ఈ అలిస్ హువాంగ్ అనేటువంటి అమ్మాయితోను అతను రిలేషన్ లో ఉన్నాడు. (10:06) అలిస్ హువాంగ్ చైనా యొక్క గూఢచారి స్పై అని వాళ్ళు ఆరోపణ చేశారు. అయితే ఈయన దానికి నేను నా భార్యను మోసం చేసిన మాట వాస్తవము. నా భార్యకు క్షమాపణలు చెప్తున్నాను. ఈయన 60 సంవత్సరాల ఆయన. 60 సంవత్సరాలు అంటే మనలాగా మన ఇళ్లల్లో లాగా ముసలోడు అయిపోయి ఏం ఉండరు వీళ్ళు. వీళ్ళు ఎప్పుడు కూడా ఆ ఆరోగ్యంగా ఉంటారు. (10:32) చూస్తానికి యంగ్ చేసి ఒక 30 40 ఇయర్స్ గై లాగా ఉంటాడు అన్నమాట. ఆయన నా భార్యకు నేను మోసం చేశాను, నా పిల్లలకు మోసం చేశాను. దానికి నేను క్షమాపణలు చెప్తున్నాను అని చెప్పాడు. భార్య కూడా అదే కంపెనీలో పనిచేస్తుంది. మన పిల్లలు కూడా అదే కంపెనీలో పనిచేస్తారు. అంత పెద్ద కంపెనీ అది. ఇది అంత మాత్రం చెప్పారు తప్ప తను ఎవరితో రిలేషన్ లో ఉన్నాను అనేది చెప్పలేదు. (10:54) ఆ అమ్మాయి పేరు ఇంకా ఆయన జెన్సన్ హువాంగ్ మాత్రం ప్రకటించలేదు. సో అది ఇది మోసము భార్యను చేయటమే కాదు అమెరికాను చేయటం, దేశాన్ని అమెరికా యొక్క సైనిక్ సైన్యాన్ని రక్షణని మోసం చేయటం లాంటిది ఇది. సో అమెరికన్ చట్టాల ప్రకారం ఇది యాక్చువల్ దేశద్రోహం. అసలు ఏమైంది? అసలు ఈమె ఎవరు? ఎలా పరిచయం అంటే ఈమె ఆ ఎలిస్ హువాంగ్, జెన్సన్ హువాంగ్ ఇద్దరు పేర్లు ఒకలాగానే ఉన్నాయి. (11:25) వీళ్ళిద్దరూ చుట్టాల అన్నట్టుగా మనకు అనిపిస్తుంది. ఎందుకంటే మనకి రెడ్డి అమ్మాయి రాధిక రెడ్డి ఇంకొక రెడ్డి ఉంటారు. వాళ్ళిద్దరూ ఒకే కులానికి సంబంధించిన ఎట్లాగైతే సర్నేమ్ లేకపోతే లాస్ట్ నేమ్ ఉందో అలాగే చైనీస్ కు హuవాంగ్ అనేటువంటి పేరు ఉండటం సహజం. మరి ఈయనకి ఎందుకు ఉంది అమెరికన్ అంటే ఈయన తైవాన్ ఆరిజన్ ఉన్న ఆయన. ఆయన అమెరికన్ అమెరికన్ సిటిజన్ అమెరికాలో నుండి ఆయన ఇండస్ట్రియలిస్ట్. (11:47) తైవాన్ కూడా చైనాకు సంబంధించిన దగ్గరిదే కాబట్టి ఈ సిమిలర్ పేరు ఉంది ఇద్దరికీ ఏ మాత్రము చుట్టరికం గాని ఏమి లేదు. తైవాన్ ఆరిజన్ ఇతను అమ్మాయి చైనా ఆరిజన్. ఈ అమ్మాయి చైనాలో పుట్టింది. అండ్ ఈ అమ్మాయి జర్నలిజం చదువుకుంది అండ్ ఈ అమ్మాయి సిసిటివి అనేటువంటి ఒక టీవీలో తను న్యూస్ యాంకర్ గా పని చేసింది. తర్వాత హెచ్ఎస్బిసి అనేటువంటి ఆ బ్యాంక్ కి ఎగ్జిక్యూటివ్ గా పని చేసింది హాంగ్ కాంగ్ లో. (12:11) అలాగే వచ్చేసి తర్వాత ఇప్పుడు నౌ ఈ అమ్మాయి ఈ మెగా స్పీడ్ ఇంటర్నేషనల్ అనేటువంటి ఒక సింగపూర్ రిజిస్టర్డ్ కంపెనీ సింగపూర్ బేస్డ్ కంపెనీకి ఆమె ఎగ్జిక్యూటివ్ గా ఉంది ఓనర్ దాదాపుగా ఓనర్ అన్నమాట. ఆ మెగా స్పీడ్ ఇంటర్నేషనల్ అనేటువంటి కంపెనీ ఎన్విడియా కి క్లైంట్ అంటే వాళ్ళకి చిప్స్ సప్లై చేస్తారు. ఇది ఎంక్వయిరీ చేస్తే ఈ మెగా స్పీడ్ అనే ఇంటర్నేషనల్ అనేటువంటి కంపెనీ 2015 లో సెవెన్ రోడ్స్ అనేటువంటి కంపెనీగా రిజిస్టర్ అయింది అది చైనాకు సంబంధించింది. (12:46) అది 2023 లో అది మెగా స్పీడ్ గా పేరు మార్చుకుంది అంటే ఇది చైనా ఆరిజిన ఉన్నటువంటి ఒక కంపెనీ. ఆ చైనా ఆరిజిన ఉన్నటువంటి కంపెనీ సింగపూర్ బేస్డ్ కంపెనీకి చట్ట ప్రకారం వీళ్ళు అమ్మొచ్చు అమ్మారు. అక్కడి నుంచి ఆ చిప్స్ వీళ్ళు వాళ్ళు వాడకుండా వాళ్ళు చైనాకు అమ్ముతూ ఉన్నారు చైనా తీసుకుంటుంది అనేటువంటి ఆరోపణ. టెక్నికల్లీ ఇదేమి చట్ట వ్యతిరేకం కాదు. (13:12) వీళ్ళ పని సింగపూర్లో ఉన్నటువంటి కంపెనీకి అమ్మటం వాళ్ళు ఏం చేసుకుంటారో వీళ్ళు వెళ్లి చెక్ చేయడం అనేది సాధ్యపడదు. నైతికంగా మాత్రం ఇది రాంగ్. ఈ విషయం ఆల్రెడీ ఆయనకి తెలుసు ఎవరికి జెన్సన్ హువాంగ్ కి తెలుసు కానీ దాన్ని కావాలని ఆ కంపెనీకి సప్లై చేస్తున్నాడు బికాజ్ ఆ అమ్మాయితో ఒక రిలేషన్ ఎక్స్ట్రా మ్యారిటల్ ఎఫైర్ ఉంది అనేటువంటి ఒక ఆరోపణ ఉంది ఆయన కూడా ఎక్స్ట్రా మ్యారిటల్ ఎఫైర్ ఉంది అన్నాడు కానీ ఆ అమ్మాయి పేరు అయితే మెన్షన్ చేయలేదు. (13:38) సో దీనివలన ఈ అమ్మాయి ట్రాప్ చేసి ఇతన్ని ఇక్కడి నుంచి చిప్స్ తీసుకెళ్లి చైనాకు చేరిపోయినవి చైనా దాని ఆధారంగా వాళ్ళు రీసెర్చ్ చేస్తారు వాళ్ళ సైన్యంలో వాటిలో ఆ రక్షణ వ్యవస్థలో వాడతారు అనేటువంటిది అమెరికాకు షాకింగ్ అన్నమాట. ఈ విషయం తెలియగానే ఒక్కసారిగా అమెరికన్ కార్పొరేషన్ మొత్తం ఒక్కసారి షాక్ గురయ్యారు మార్కెట్ భారీగా సోమవారం నాడు 200 బిలియన్ డాలర్స్ ఎన్విడియా షేర్స్ పడిపోయింది. (14:09) ఆయన టాప్ లో ఉండే ఆయన 13 కో ఎక్కడికో వచ్చేసాడు ఎవరు జెన్సన్ హువాంగ్ అనే ఆయన అంత డబ్బు ఉన్నాయన జెన్సన్ హువాంగ్ ఆ కంపెనీ నాలుగున్నర ట్రిలియన్ డాలర్స్ విలువైనటువంటి కంపెనీలో 3% షేర్ ఆయనది. అంత హై షేర్ ఉన్నది ఎవరు లేరు అన్నమాట. సో మిగతా బోర్డ్ మెంబర్స్ అందరూ కూడా మేము ఎంక్వైరీకి ఆ మేము ఆర్డర్ చేశాము. అంటే ఫర్దర్ ఎంక్వైరీ అన్నమాట. (14:34) ఆయన చెప్పాడు నేను ఎక్స్ట్రా మ్యారిటల్ నాకు ఎక్స్ట్రా మ్యారిటల్ ఎఫైర్ ఉన్న మాట వాస్తవము నా భార్యను పిల్లల్ని మోసం చేశాను కానీ ఎక్కడ నేను కంపెనీ రహస్యాలని బయట పెట్టలేదు. ఎక్కడ రాంగ్ ప్రాక్టీస్ నేను చేయలేదని ఆయన అన్నాడు. అండ్ ట్రంప్ కూడా ఆయనకి సపోర్ట్ గా నిలిచాడు. గతంలోనే ట్రంప్ కి తెలుసు ఇటువంటివి జరుగుతున్నాయని ఇప్పుడు తెలిసినా సరే ట్రంప్ ఆయన చాలా మంచి వాడు దేశం కోసం ఎంతో పాటు పడ్డాడు. (15:00) వ్యక్తిగతమైన పొరపాట్లు జరగొచ్చు ఏమో తప్ప దేశానికి ఆయన మోసం చేయలేదు. నేను ఆయనకు అండగా ఉంటాను నెక్స్ట్ నేను వెళ్లే ఏషియా టూర్లో ఆయన్ని కూడా తీసుకెళ్తాను అని చెప్పి ట్రంప్ ప్రకటించారు. ఇక్కడ మనకి అర్థం కావాల్సింది ఏంటి అని అంటే ఎందుకు అమెరికన్ అధ్యక్షుడు అమెరికన్ అధ్యక్షుడు ట్రంప్ ఆయనకి బాసటగా నిలిచాడు. ఇక్కడ మనము యాస్ ఎ సైకాలజిస్ట్ గా నా అనాలసిస్ రెండు చూడాలి ఒకటి ఎందుకు ఫీమేల్ దగ్గర అంత పెద్ద పెద్ద కంపెనీ ఓనర్లు సీఈఓలు పొలిటిషియన్స్ లంగిపోతారు ఒకటి రెండోది పొలిటికల్ ఎనలిస్ట్ ఎనలిస్ట్ గా సో ఎందుకు దేశాధ్యక్షుడు ఆయనకి అండగా (15:41) నిలబడుతున్నాడు ఇవి రెండు చూడాలి. అయితే చాలా సార్లు మనం చెప్తూ ఉంటాం ఫీమేల్ కి ఎందుకు లంగిపోతాడు అది ప్రకృతి. మరి అంత అందమైన భార్య ఉంది భార్య తను ప్రేమించి పెళ్లి చేసుకున్నారు భార్య నేను చెప్పినట్టుగా ఎప్పుడైతే పెళ్లి అవుతుందో భార్య మీద ఇంట్రెస్ట్ తగ్గిపోతుంది భర్త మీద కూడా ఇంట్రెస్ట్ తగ్గిపోతుంది. మేల్ ఎప్పుడు కూడా తను మల్టిపుల్ రిలేషన్స్ కోసం ట్రై చేస్తుంటాడు డిఫరెంట్ రిలేషన్స్ కోసం. (16:04) ఆ క్రమంలో తనకి ఆ చాలా మంది ఏంటంటే కల్చర్ కి భయపడి లేదంటే ఏమో అక్కడ వచ్చేటువంటి కంపెన్సేషన్ ఇవ్వటానికి భయపడి ఆ సేమ్ రిలేషన్ కంటిన్యూ చేస్తుంటారు తప్ప ఇన్ జనరల్ అయితే నేచర్ ప్రకారం ఒకరి తర్వాత ఒకరికి షిఫ్ట్ అయిపోతూ ఉంటారు. ఎప్పు అయితే హై లెవెల్ ఇన్కమ్ ఉన్నవాళ్లు సినిమా హీరోలు గాని బాలీవుడ్ స్టార్స్ గాని మన టాలీవుడ్ స్టార్స్ గాని వీళ్ళందరూ చూసినట్లయితే ఒకరి తర్వాత ఒకరిని పెళ్లి చేసుకుంటారు, డైవోర్స్ ఇస్తారు, మళ్ళీ పెళ్లి చేసుకుంటారు, మళ్ళీ డైవోర్స్ ఇస్తుంటారు అట్లా రెండు మూడు సార్లు చేయడం మనం అమీర్ ఖాన్ దగ్గర నుంచి పవన్ కళ్యాణ్ దాకా చూసాం (16:36) మనం. ఎందుకంటే అక్కడ లే ఉండటం అనేది కొంచెం కష్టంగా ఉంటుంది. ఎమోషనల్ గా పైకి బాగా నటిస్తూ ఉండొచ్చు. ఇది సహజం. చట్ట ప్రకారం వాళ్లు ఆ విడిపోయే హక్కు ఉంది. అయితే ఇక్కడ ఆ ఆ ఆ కాంటెక్స్ట్ లో ఈ అమ్మాయి తోని రిలేషన్ పెట్టుకునేటటువంటి అవకాశాలు ఉన్నాయి. ఈ అమ్మాయి స్పై అవునా కాదా దీన్ని చైనా కొట్టివేస్తుంది. చైనా అంటుంది ఇది కావాలని మా మీద దుష్ప్రచారం చేస్తున్నారు. (17:01) మాకు ఈ ఇన్సిడెంట్స్ కి ఏ సంబంధం లేదు అని చైనా కొట్టివేస్తుంది, కొట్టివేస్తది కూడా. అయితే ట్రంప్ డోనాల్డ్ ట్రంప్ ఎందుకు మరి ఇతనికి సపోర్ట్ చేస్తూ ఉన్నారు? మనం చూసినట్లయితే అదానీకి ఆ అమెరికాలో లంచం ఇచ్చాడని కేసు రిజిస్టర్ అయ్యి ఆ తర్వాత చాలా ఫేక్ కంపెనీలు, పేపర్ కంపెనీలు పెట్టి ఇట్లా మోసం చేస్తున్నారు అని 2022 ఆ టైంలో 21 22 టైంలో ఒక న్యూస్ రావడంతో అమెరికన్ ఒక ఏజెన్సీ షార్ట్ సెల్లింగ్ కంపెనీ దాన్ని బయట పెట్టగానే దారుణంగా ఆ అదానీ కంపెనీల యొక్క షేర్స్ పడిపోయినాయి. (17:38) స్టిల్ ప్రభుత్వము అతనికి అండగానే ఉంది. పార్లమెంట్ లో మోడీ, అమిత్ షా వీళ్ళు ఏం చెప్పారంటే ఇది భారతదేశం మీద ఎటాక్ అని చెప్పారు. ఎందుకు కార్పొరేట్స్ కి ఇలా పొలిటిషియన్స్ అండగా ఉంటారు అంటే కార్పొరేట్స్ ఫండింగ్ చేస్తారు. కార్పొరేట్స్ వాళ్లు వాళ్ళ పార్టీలకి ఫండింగ్ చేస్తారు. కాబట్టి వెంటనే నువ్వు లిటరల్లీ నీ నేరం కనిపించినా, డబ్బున్న వాడి నేరం కనిపించినా పొలిటిషియన్ వెంటనే దాన్ని నేరము అని అనరు. (18:06) దాన్ని ఎలా కవర్ చేయొచ్చో చూస్తారు. ఎందుకంటే అందరూ ఒకటే ఇక్కడ. ఇదే చిన్న కంపెనీ చేసినట్లయితే వెంటనే అతన్ని అరెస్ట్ చేసి అమెరికాలో కాదు ఇండియాలో అయినా చైనాలో అయినా పాకిస్తాన్ లో అయినా సరే చిన్న కంపెనీ ఇటువంటిది ఏమన్నా బయట పడినట్లయితే అది చట్ట ప్రకారం రైట్ అయినప్పటికీ వెంటనే అతన్ని అరెస్ట్ చేసేసి బయటికి రానివ్వకుండా చేసి అక్కడే విహార్ జైల్లో ఉంచి విచారణ చేస్తూ ఉంటారు. (18:29) అదే డబ్బున్న వాళ్ళు బాగా వందల వేల కోట్లు లక్షల కోట్లు ఉన్న వాళ్ళు అయితే ఆ లెవెల్ లో ఫండింగ్ చేయగలుగుతారు కాబట్టి అంటే వాడు అన్యాయం చేసి సంపాదించిన ఎలా ఈ ఈ ఈ కేసులో ఈయన అన్యాయం చేశాడని నేను అనట్లేదు. ఎలా సంపాదించిన పొలిటిషియన్ కి అనవసరం పొలిటిషియన్ కి ఫండింగ్ కావాలి. ఆ డబ్బున్న వాళ్ళ అండ కావాలి కార్పొరేట్స్ ని ఏ పార్టీ కూడా వదులుకోదు. (18:51) మన ఇక్కడ అంబానీ అదాల్ అదానీల మీద ఇన్ని నిందలు వేస్తూ ఉన్నాం కదా సేమ్ ఈ నిందలు రేపు పొద్దున కాంగ్రెస్ వచ్చిన ఇంతే చేస్తది వాళ్ళను అంబానీ అదాల్ని కాంగ్రెస్ వదులుకోదు. రేపు పొద్దున వేరే ఏదన్నా థర్డ్ ఫ్రంట్ వచ్చిన సరే వాళ్ళు కూడా వాళ్ళని వదులుకోరు. లేదా కమ్యూనిస్టులు వచ్చిన సరే వాళ్ళని వదులుకోరు. (19:15) మా వైస్ట్ అధికారంలోకి వచ్చిన ఈ ఎలక్షన్ ప్యాటర్న్ లో గెలిచి వచ్చిన నేపాల్ లో చూసాం. వాళ్ళు కూడా వదులుకోరు ఈ ప్రజా సో కాల్డ్ డెమోక్రటిక్ సో కాల్డ్ ప్రజాస్వామ్యంలో కార్పొరేట్స్ ని ఎవరు కూడా వదులుకోరు వాళ్ళు తప్పు చేసిన చేయకపోయినా లేదంటే హత్యలు చేసిన దేశద్రోహంగా పాల్పడిన వదులుకోరు అవసరమైతే దేశం దాటిస్తారేమో తప్ప వాళ్ళని వదులుకోవడం అనేది జరగదు కాబట్టి ఇక్కడ మనకు ఈ అమ్మాయి ఎందుకు ఇంత ఆ మీడియాలో హల్చల్ చేసిందంటే ఆ అమ్మాయి ఏం చేయలేదు ఆ అమ్మాయి తన బిజినెస్ తాను చేసుకుంటుంది కానీ ఆమె మీద ఉన్న ఆరోపణలు చైనాకి చిప్స్ ని క్యారీ చేయ తీసుకెళ్లడానికి గూఢచర్యం చేసింది (19:52) అనేటువంటి ఆరోపణ చేసిందో లేదో మనకు తెలియదు మనకు తెలిసే అవకాశం కూడా లేదు కానీ ఇలా చేయటం వల్ల అమెరికా ఆ మార్కెట్లో అది పడిపోవటము అండ్ అమెరికన్ సెక్యూరిటీ పట్ల అనుమానాలు రేకెత్తటం వల్ల మొత్తం ప్రపంచవ్యాప్తంగా ఆమె పేరు ఇట్లా మారుమోగింది. మరొక అంశంతో మళ్ళీ మాట్లాడదాము థాంక్యూ.
Title: Celebrity Health Coach Answers Question on Gut Health, Mind & Stress Ft. Dimple Jangda Penguin India
Author Name: The Penguin Podcast
Description: "You are what you think, what you eat, what you feel and what you give to others." We've all heard this. But what does it actually mean for your gut, your body and your health? We sat down with Celebrity Health Coach and bestselling author Dimple Jangda for a raw, unfiltered Q&A covering everything from fixing your gut to healing your body and the accidental journey that made her India's most trusted health coach.
Because here's the truth, most Indians are eating wrong and don't even know it. Eating while watching TV, not chewing food, ignoring what's on their plate these everyday habits are silently destroying your gut and making you fat.
In this Q&A, Dimple answers questions on gut health, Ayurveda myths, healing tools and the small changes that can completely transform your body starting today.
🔥 WHAT WE COVER IN THIS VIDEO ✅ The biggest myth about Ayurveda you need to stop believing ✅ The one Indian household habit destroying your gut ✅ Why chewing your food more is relate to fat ✅ The 5 Ds — Disconnect, Destress, Detox, Decompress, Decode ✅ Her shocking surgery story that will give you goosebumps ✅ How she went from investment banking to healing thousands ✅ The couple from Lebanon who flew to Mumbai for a miracle
📖 ABOUT THE BOOK — The Ultimate Healing Code In this, the sequel to her bestselling book, Heal Your Gut, Mind and Body, Dimple Jangda Unpacks the five Ds of mental health and shows you how to Disconnect, Destress, Detox, Decompress, and Decode your internal software. Unwraps five powerful healing tools—Time, Space, Nature, Sound, and Energy. Shares dietary protocols to tap into the boundless human potential to heal itself and perform daily miracles. In sharing these codes and powerful game-changers, Dimple brings you closer to the source of healing, so you can become the master of your body, health and destiny. Accessible and comprehensive, this book will help you unlearn old habits, learn new health protocols and become the healthiest, happiest version of yourself, so you can live a more powerful now.
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🎙️ Featuring: Dimple Jangda 📚 Presented by Penguin India
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Transcript: (00:00) Isolation really helps when it comes to writing books. >> [laughter] >> That's the best question. Which scene would we see? That was able to hear what the nurses and doctors were talking over my body while cutting me open. And I wanted to scream >> [laughter] >> at her. All I do on that [music] account is post memes. (00:23) >> [music] >> Hey guys. Welcome to my book launch. Hi Dimple. Hi. Happy launch day. Thank you. We have 21 questions for you. Are you ready for them? Sure. Let's shoot. For someone who's never heard of it, what is the ultimate healing code in one sentence? Get your energy right. [music] Your energy, vibrations, frequency, sound, and intent. (00:49) Your first book was Heal Your Gut, Mind, and Emotions. What did this new book let you say that the first one couldn't? I'm glad you're asking that question because the first book was all about the tangibles. It was about nutrition, it was about gut health, it was about mental, emotional, physical health. (01:04) The second book was about the intangibles. Energy, vibrations, frequency, which you can't measure, touch, but you always feel it. You know it's [music] there. Okay. If viewers remember just one gut lesson from both the books, what should it be? You are what you think, what you eat, what you feel, and what you give to others. (01:22) So, be very careful of the thoughts, words, actions that you commit because what you do is exactly what's going to come out. And that's what this new book is about. In the book you talk about five D's: disconnect, distress, detox, decompress, and decode. Which D do people struggle with the most? Disconnect. You also shared five healing tools: time, space, nature, sound, and energy. (01:43) Which one secretly changed your life the most? Time. You know, for the longest time, again, it's it's so funny that I say that. For the longest time, I didn't realize time is not linear. Past, present, and future, all three are happening simultaneously. And the best thing you can do is the impressions you make, right? So, it's very important how you feel the power of now. (02:05) If you experience the now, >> [music] >> you solved it. You went from investment banking and journalism to Ayurveda and gut health. What was the exact tipping point moment? And at every point I felt like I'd reached the peak. So, you know, when I was doing television productions, I felt saturated. I felt I wasn't growing as a person. (02:22) Went to investment banking, felt happy that I had everything, but still felt empty. You know, that ikigai, that purpose in life was missing. And thanks to, you know, the epiphanies of the universe, about 9 years ago, I had this feeling that I wanted to do something in preventive health care. And thus happened to Ayurveda, the clinic, the academy, gut health, and now energy. (02:41) We wanted to ask, why do you call yourself accidental health coach? >> [laughter] >> That's the best question. Why am I an accidental health coach? It was [music] so unplanned. Nobody in my family is a health coach or a doctor for several generations. We had nothing to do with this, except for the fact that we provided a lot of business to the hospitals. (02:58) I just got sick and tired of watching people falling apart, falling sick, and dying at early age. That was heartbreaking for me because we lost a lot of people in my family. And I guess I was meant to find the answers through this. So, that's [music] why it's what I call an accidental journey. Okay. (03:16) So, Prana has worked with people from dozens of countries. What's one transformation story that still makes you emotional? You know, so recently we had this couple that flew down from Lebanon via Dubai. They came to Mumbai without telling us, you know, with this hope that they would be able to have a baby. So, they had multiple miscarriages, unfortunately. (03:32) We did the treatments. We didn't give them any false hopes. We put them through the whole food plant-based diet. We put them [music] through the panchakarma treatments. We changed their lifestyle, diet, everything. And I have a good news that they are finally pregnant. And I think it's the fifth month, so everything is going really well. (03:46) And I'm so happy there's a Prana baby coming this year. What's the most common myth about Ayurveda and gut health that you wish you would just retire already. >> [music] >> The common myth is that, you know, Ayurveda's slow, Ayurveda's old-fashioned, Ayurveda's for the old people. >> [music] >> It's not science-backed or proven. (04:03) That's probably the worst myth about it. Yeah. Ayurveda's a 5,000-year-old science. It has been around for thousands of years. It has witnessed humanity, time, multiple pandemics, the history of humanity and civilization. If anything, it's a collective intelligence of human beings, [music] which we should tap into leverage rather than dismiss it. (04:23) What is the toughest criticism or skepticism you face, and how do you answer it? >> [music] >> You know, people question that I don't have a background in medicine, so what right do I have to be a health coach? Experience [music] teaches you far more, I would say. And of course, you know, there is education now in my background in health care. (04:39) I've done a couple of courses with Harvard and Stanford, and I have done some Ayurvedic [music] courses as well. I'm a certified yoga teacher. Education is the means, but it's not the end itself. You know, your experience, your collective intelligence, wisdom, and how you handle people's illness, sickness with your insights, that is an additional thing that colleges can't teach you. A little about yourself. (05:00) So, you've spoken about epilepsy as a child. If you talk about a particular hospital memory that still gives you goosebumps, which [snorts] scene would we see? I'm impressed that you found that question. >> [music] >> So, during my fourth surgery, I think I was 18 or 19, I can't remember, but it was for fibroids after having a cancer scare. (05:20) I woke up in the middle of a surgery. My eyes didn't open, but I was able to hear what the nurses and doctors were talking over my body while cutting me open. And I could hear them for a good 30, 45 seconds, [music] and I tried to move to tell them that I'm awake, don't do anything. The nurse, or the doctor asked the nurse, "Is she awake?" And the nurse said, "No. (05:40) " And I wanted to scream at her. But luckily, the anesthesia kicked in, and I fell asleep again before I could hear myself being cut open. Okay. So, if you could magically fix just one food habit in every Indian household, what would you change first? Eating while watching TV. That's [music] probably the worst. (05:56) You have no clue what's on your plate. You're not focused on digesting the food. You're not chewing your food enough. You're just gulping [music] it down. Detox, de-stress, decompress, focus on your food, use your five fingers, use your [music] five senses to eat food. Watch your food, smell your food, taste it, hear the crunching noise. >> [music] >> You know, move it around in your mouth. (06:12) The more you chew, that much saliva will go into your stomach and aid the digestion process >> [music] >> and you'll never get fat. Thank you so much, Rujuta. This was so, so, so good. Let's go ahead with the book launch. Thank you so much again. Thank you for coming for the book launch. I can't wait for you guys to grab a copy, read it, share a review, and I hope it touches some part of your life. (06:30) If it brings even this much change in your life, I'll be very grateful to you for giving me that opportunity. Lots of love.
Title: We Exposed The Biggest Food Myths Indians Still Believe | Krish Ashok
Author Name: The Penguin Podcast
Description: Chapters: 00:00 – Recap 01:24 – Why Has Everyday Food Become So Scary? 04:00 – Are Glucose Spikes & Rice Actually Bad for You? 11:03 – The Truth About Weight Loss & Calorie Deficit 12:38 – Seed Oils vs Cold-Pressed Oils 14:09 – Palm Oil, Coconut Oil & Ghee: What’s Actually Healthy? 17:27 – Are Organic Foods Really Better for You? 21:45 – Does Maida Really Stick to Your Gut? 26:13 – Is Gluten Actually Inflammatory? 29:53 – Are Microwaves Really Harmful? 34:38 – How Health Influencers Create Food Anxiety 36:34 – Probiotics, Prebiotics & Gut Health - which is better? 38:11 – How Your Body Actually Processes Food 40:13 – What Does “Good Metabolism” Actually Mean? 45:08 – Whey Protein, Supplements & the Wellness Industry 49:23 – Is Food Anxiety Harming Your Health? 51:14 – Why There Is No Such Thing as a Perfect Diet 52:29 – Content vs Knowledge vs Health Advice 55:08 – Stop Feeling Guilty About Food
Rice spikes your glucose. Maida is bad for your gut. Seed oils are toxic. Gluten causes inflammation. Every day, there seems to be a new rule about what we should—or shouldn’t—eat.
But when did ordinary food become so frightening?
In this conversation, Krish Ashok, bestselling author of Masala Lab, breaks down some of the biggest food myths we encounter online. From rice, maida, gluten and seed oils to ghee, glucose spikes, gut health and microwaves, he explains what the science actually says—and why labelling individual foods as simply “good” or “bad” can be misleading.
The conversation also explores health influencers, food anxiety, the difference between content and credible advice, and why there may be no such thing as a perfect diet.
📖 About Krish Ashok’s new book, Masala Body: https://amzn.in/d/0fDm1ZFG In Masala Body, Krish Ashok follows the food on your plate through its remarkable journey inside your body. Backed by science and written with his trademark wit, he breaks down what really happens when we eat while separating evidence from myths around maida, oils, diabetes, gut health and more.
A clear, accessible guide to understanding your body—and thinking critically about nutrition claims shaped by fear, misinformation and marketing.
Watch the full conversation and rethink what you’ve been told about everyday food.
Transcript: (00:00) that has been created around palm oil. Is that the same relevancy or no? >> If you think coconut oil is superfood, but palm oil is poison, that's being silly. Both of these come from the palm family. Palm oil is like 50% saturated fat. Coconut oil is like 85% saturated fat. If you think saturated fat, you must reduce coconut oil also. (00:18) I think the one of the healthiest habit is to ironically stop consuming >> Yeah. >> content from people who are telling you not to consume food. >> Yeah. My daily meal has become frightening, Ashok. What is happening here? Why is the internet after us? Krish Ashok, engineer by training, author of the best-selling Masala Lab, and the man who busts India's food myths with science. (00:40) In his new book, >> [music] >> Masala Body, he follows your food through your body. If rice, ghee, or one plate of momos [music] has ever made you feel guilty, this episode is for you. Is rice really a devil? >> Watching somebody share their glucose spikes is one of the most ridiculous [music] kinds of things. (00:59) Everybody is different. The same amount of rice will spike different people's blood sugar differently. Many organic pesticides are equally, if not [music] more, toxic than synthetic pesticides. >> And I'm still paying a premium for it. We are being told that it's all radiation and toxins, [music] and you know what I'm talking about. Microwaves. (01:15) >> We've always resisted anything that made [music] women's lives in the kitchen easier. >> Even a basic Indian diet has become really scary, and I'll just share my emotion with you here because the moment I open like, okay, imagine me having my meal. I have rice, dal, roti, ghee, a little bit of achar or chutney, something in my plate. (01:40) >> Yeah. >> And I'm eating it, but I'm watching something. Obviously, I'm on my phone watching something. >> Yes. >> And even that dal or rice become scary now, you know? And I feel like it's a guilt that I'm living with that why am I eating carb after 8:00 or after 9:00? That rice is going to spike my glucose. (02:00) Ghee is inflammatory, I think. And No, no. Ghee is going to clog my arteries. And the oil that I'm cooking in is inflammatory. So, everything is just going to lead to something really. And it's frightening. Like my my daily meal has become frightening, Ashok. [laughter] What is happening here? Why is the internet after us? >> I think the easiest solution to that is to not watch >> [laughter] >> content when when you're eating. (02:27) But on but on a more serious note, yes, there's actually good research that says that uh um if you're distracted while you're eating. >> Okay. >> And by the way, this distraction could happen from a screen. >> Yeah. >> Could also happen when you're like really talking to someone. So, I'm not like specially blaming the screens here. (02:42) But in general, when you're like completely engrossed in something, >> Mhm. >> your your ability to pay attention to satiety signals is poorer. >> Oh. >> So, you in general, studies show that you could end up you know, consuming 20% more calories over and above when your body started saying enough. Right? So, therefore, being really mindful about what you eat is [clears throat] is good. (03:05) But on the other hand, I think See, the content environment we live in is directly just a incentive structure that that a combination of these algorithmic advertising algorithms, um social media platforms, right? And therefore, the the creators look at that and say, "Yeah, this is what I need to do. I need to scare people, right?" Uh because there's only like five or six usefully correct things you can say about food and diet and health in general. (03:31) That you need to sleep enough. You need to not eat too many calories. Uh keep saturated fat and uh in check. >> Yeah. >> And salt in check. And uh get enough, you know, protein and fiber. And more or less it, right? Actually, right? And uh and as long as uh and move, right? And physically move, right? And if that active lifestyle supports uh your traditional food in moderation, that's right? I mean, people are over optimizing and and they've sort of turned carbs into some kind of a >> Yeah, man. (03:58) >> demonized uh >> They're the evil. >> Yeah, yeah. And I'm I I you know, I people sometimes get annoyed, but I'm very very very uh annoyed by these CGM type stunts, right? >> Okay. >> If you eat carbohydrates, nature has designed your body in such a way that all of that glucose is going to get into your blood. (04:16) >> Yeah. >> So, for example, just to put things in perspective, right? There's like 4 g of g of glucose in your blood at any given point of time. >> Okay. >> That's like a teaspoon. >> Oh. Okay. But, 100 g sounds like a lot. >> There is just a teaspoon of blood in your of glucose in your blood at any given point of time. (04:34) The rest of it is actually as glycogen. >> Right. >> or somehow converted and stored as fat, right? Um, and so on. So, and your body manages all of that. So, the idea is that when you eat this much of rice, that's a lot of grams of glucose entering the system. >> Right. >> Obviously, your body is going to produce insulin. >> Mhm. >> Right? And then all of that sugar is going to spike in the blood, and then your body produces insulin, make sure that all of that sugar gets into the cells or into glycogen, and so on, and then it comes back down. (04:59) >> Oh. >> This is just normal behavior. >> So, the spike is normal, you're saying? >> absolutely normal. So, the question always is that if you keep doing it again and again, and you're not using at your body runs out of storage >> Yeah. >> space. So, that is you runs out of glycogen, you don't have enough muscles, >> Mhm. (05:15) >> um, and then what does the body do with that? And then at that point, you know, insulin sensitivity, right? resistance, right? Meaning that your cells stop paying attention to uh the insulin trying to say, "Please take some more glucose, please, please." Right? And then you're you then you slowly what happens is that that's the path to sort of uh diabetes, and so on, and your blood sugar stays elevated, and so on. (05:35) So, that's essentially when that system breaks down. >> Mhm. >> The normal behavior is that when you eat carbs, you it is going to rise, right? >> Yeah. >> Um, but yes, the other thing is that you're not eating rice raw, right? You are eating it with dal. >> Cooked, yeah. >> Which is uh dal is this again resistant starch, right? And the fiber is going to slow down the spike from the rice. (05:53) >> Okay. >> A little bit of that ghee is going to slow down the spike from the rice. Like protein and fat. >> Yeah. >> And resistant starch will slow down that spike, right? And also what how much matters is that how much rice are you eating, right? >> Yeah. So, okay, here's the thing. Rice has [clears throat] been made as this evil and everybody who prides on themselves saying I don't eat rice anymore. I don't eat white rice anymore. (06:14) Right? There's a whole lot of You know, there's this guy on the internet I see who wears a glucose monitor all the time. He'll do test with everything, sandwich, rice, momos and he'll show you the glucose spike. And I always keep thinking that okay, fine. Rice has been in my staple since I was a child and my father was my age and he was eating it and never did we have to worry about a glucose spike. (06:37) So, I just want to honestly and I think for everybody out there, is rice really a devil? >> I mean, let's start with that whole CGM content first. >> Yeah. >> Would you watch some random person with a with a completely different facial structure, skin tone and everything else, try on cosmetics and then say that this particular cosmetic looks terrible on me and therefore it is terrible for everyone. (07:02) >> Mhm, no. >> It is basically watching somebody share their glucose spikes and say this spike my glucose and therefore, you know, you must not eat it. It's one of the most ridiculous kinds of things. Everybody is different. >> Yeah. >> Everybody reacts differently. The same amount of rice will spike different people's blood sugar differently. (07:25) >> Oh, okay. >> And it will spike the blood sugar of that person differently depending on what time of the day and what age and so on. >> Yeah. >> And when it comes to women >> Mhm. >> there'll be a crazy amount of difference Uh, across the time of the month Yeah. How your body So, right? See, women's bodies are completely cyclical and keep changing, right? So, I'm telling you I'm telling particularly women that ignore all content made by men. (07:54) Most of that stuff is not going to be relevant to you at all, right? And so, therefore, this entire thing is completely patently silly. First, your bodies are designed to do that. >> Okay. >> Right? The idea is what else are you eating it with? >> Right. >> Right? And are you exercising enough? >> Yeah. >> What is your rice portion? Your dal portion? >> Yeah. (08:11) >> Right? I mean, there's no point in joining life and, you know, replacing rice with some And then many of the replacements of rice will also spike your blood sugar. >> Yeah. >> Right? I mean, so will quinoa, so will millets. >> Mhm. >> Right? Only point is that yes, it has more fiber. (08:26) Yes, it has more And many people, by the way, depending on the individual, they switch to millets. Then there's enough content on the internet that shows that millets also spike somebody's blood sugar. >> Yes, I was just going to say that that there if there is this guy talking about rice, somebody's talking about millets being like >> And quinoa and anything else. (08:39) >> And everybody's starting over with this whole line saying, "Don't eat quinoa." And you're like, "What am I supposed to eat?" >> Yes. See, all of this is basically either an excuse to try and sell an alternative, right? Either a fancier low glycemic index rice. >> Yeah. >> Right? Or, you know, some of these really crazy things like the shirataki rice, which is not even rice by the >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. (08:55) I don't know. I've heard about that. Yeah. >> literally some other non-digestible starch shaped into rice, right? Um, and yeah, so the whole point is that >> And if you say See, southern India thrives on rice. That's their staple day in and day out from their breakfast to their dinner. So, it can't be that there's so many people who are facing glucose spikes and not living their life. (09:16) Like, how do you >> See, clearly, I think there is a It is safe to say that a a modern lifestyle that is nowhere as physically active as our as grandfather's and great-grandmother's generation. You shouldn't not be eating that much rice, right? But the idea that you must not eat rice at all is just silly, right? Wheat will spike your blood sugar, too. (09:38) Right? >> Mhm. >> yes. So, I think it's about balance, right? I mean, you know, mix it up. Eat millets sometimes of the day. Reduce the amount of uh uh rice you eat. >> Yeah. >> Like portion size-wise, right? You can sort of see um in Hong Kong and in China and all that, right? Uh a lot of the side dishes portions will be larger. (09:54) The the rice will be actually be in a small cup, right? In India, the rice portions are like huge. >> It's about like, you know, swapping it out. But, it's also our history of famine and our history of See, rice and wheat are cheap calories, right? >> Um >> and they rescued people from starvation all through, you know, all of these years and centuries. (10:12) So, that's all there is to it. >> Yeah, it's easy to get access to, easy to serve, easy to cook. >> And then your agricultural policy also, you know, the the state only buys that from the farmers. >> Yeah. So, you get more of >> It's what it is, yes. >> So, basically, rice is not the evil. It will spike your glucose, but that's okay. Yeah. (10:29) [clears throat] And moderation is the key to anything that you're moving on. So, please don't be scared. >> exercise, right? I mean, I think also people are searching for like the laziest interventions. >> Yeah. >> And they think, "Okay, let me just switch from rice to millet and I've done my job. Now, my diabetes should get cured. (10:46) " Right? And if it doesn't, then, you know, all these nutritionists are to blame, right? Uh so, the whole idea is, no. >> No. >> Go hit the gym. Go or or use your body weight and do it. You don't have to go to the gym. >> Yeah. >> Uh the average body weight, you know, like if you're carrying like 50 to 60 kg, that's a lot of weight that you can actually use >> Yeah. (11:02) >> against gravity, yeah. >> But, there was this one thing which you had I was on one of your content pieces where you had mentioned that calorie deficit is one of the pure ways to, you know, lose weight if you have to come to lose weight. >> It is actually the only way. The laws of physics tell you that that's the only way to lose weight. (11:17) >> So, even if you replace some kind of ingredient, you have to still be in deficit. >> You still have to be in deficit, right? So, that's what I'm saying. So, people think, "Oh, I need to eat more protein." >> Yeah. >> The implicit sentence there is that at the cost of something else, fat or carbohydrates. >> Right. (11:33) >> Right? If it's added on top and you're wondering why you've not uh you know lost weight. >> Mhm. >> Of course, you you go you are going to gain weight. >> Mhm. >> If you don't change anything else and you just add protein, you're going to gain weight. >> Correct. Yeah. Right. >> That's what's going to happen here. (11:46) >> So, deficit basically replacements don't really make a difference. Eat your rice. >> Yeah. >> But eat it in the right way. >> Yeah, right. Eat less rice, add more protein and so on. >> Great. So, I think this is a great way for us to do today's podcast because I really want to put some food on trial. I feel like there is so many >> I think one first thing is that we shouldn't put any food on trial, but yes. But, I get what you mean. (12:08) It's sort of It's sort of become the thing where that's that's what people are doing day in and day out. >> I mean, no more than that what's become is when I am ordering my groceries, when I'm getting my groceries, you know, the kind of choices that I end up making are now so much influenced by the content that I'm consuming that I have stopped going for a certain type of groceries that my mother used to buy and she used to be so much earning like getting so many groceries in a very limited budget. (12:33) >> Yeah. >> I am running out of budgets every day. >> [laughter] >> So, but why why why are you not buying what your mother bought? >> Um because see for example, seed oil. Okay. Now, my mother used to cook a normal seed oil. Not a problem, but now >> billions of people around the world. >> Yeah. (12:48) But, now I am I am been made aware that cold press is what I have to do. And now cold press is expensive. >> But, why are you convinced that that that that cold pressed marketers are correct? >> Okay, you're going to kill me for this, but I >> [laughter] >> saw somewhere >> Yes. >> that they said the cold press is pure, no nothing mixed, so it's more healthy. (13:03) >> way. The the the refined oils are actually purer. >> Okay. >> Because they're actually literally purified in a in a factory, right? Everything other than fat is removed. >> Okay. >> Cold press, you don't know what you're getting. >> Oh. >> Right? Um it's going to include a lot more things from the plant um that that are fine that that are that have antioxidants and so on. (13:23) Um but, Indians new way of using oil is not drizzled on a salad. It's like heated to high temperature. >> Yeah. >> Whatever benefits you paid for are anyway burnt. Right? And on top of that, this oil is going to go rancid and spoil much sooner. >> Oh. >> Whereas refined oil is going to has a much much longer shelf life. (13:42) >> Okay. >> So, again as I said, the amount of fat is a far bigger factor than the choice of fat. >> Right. >> Um once you fix the amount of fat, then the next thing worth considering is how much monounsaturated, polyunsaturated versus uh versus saturated, right? And try and keep reduce saturated. >> Okay. >> These are the only two considerations for the most part, right? >> Yeah. (14:02) >> Um and refined seed seed oils is what this entire civilization has been consuming >> So, the whole valley that has been created around palm oil, is that very the same relevancy or no? >> Look, you know, so um um those of you I would urge people to sort of Google what the palm palm oil palm tree looks like. (14:23) It's looking coconut tree by the way, right? So, same family. >> Yeah. >> Right? If you think coconut oil is superfood, but palm oil is poison, that's being silly. >> Mhm. >> Both of these come from the palm family. >> Okay. >> And palm tree generally tends to produce saturated fats. >> Okay. >> Palm oil is like 50% saturated fat. (14:40) Coconut oil is like 85% saturated fat. >> Okay. >> Right? >> Mhm. >> Coconut if you think saturated fat you have to reduce you must reduce coconut oil also and ghee. Ghee is like again 50 50 55% saturated. >> Yeah. >> So, general coconut oil, palm oil, and ghee etc. etc. in extreme moderation. >> Mhm. >> That's what the evidence says, right? Now, you should not treat palm oil any differently in that sense. (15:05) Only problem with palm oil is that it sneaks into uh your diet without you knowing it. >> Okay. >> Because it's in the biscuits you eat, it's in the namkeen you eat, it's in the samosa you eat, it's in in all the ways in which oil is not immediately visible to you, but it's there in that packaged food product. (15:21) It's in it's in your, you know, in the instant noodles and everything else, right? So, whereas at home, like you're measuring out something and you're pouring and you know how much oil you're getting. >> Yeah. >> Uh but with with this, it's everywhere. >> Mhm. >> Right? Because it is the cheapest uh high-quality oil which doesn't go which doesn't spoil. (15:36) And that's why the industry uses it, right? So, it's again, it's easy to demonize uh because then you think that I'm going to avoid that and I'll be fine. But then you're like drinking ghee in the morning because some influencer told you I drink some this many teaspoons of ghee and all that nonsense. >> Ghee coffee has been such a rage. (15:50) >> Ridiculous. Right? With India's [clears throat] India's level of cardiovascular diseases, it's one of the most stupid bits of advice. >> Wow. Okay. >> You Just speak to any cardiologist, they they will tell you, "Please don't do these kinds of things." >> Really? >> Exactly, right? >> You see every big celebrity going on with that ghee coffee thing in the morning. (16:07) >> See, I think the whole celebrity thing is also a problem, right? So, we you take a sportsman or a celebrity. First, these are people uh who are already exceptional in many ways in the sense that uh they're probably like super healthy, right? And they have like tons of other healthy habits, right? And they probably source their vegetables and their food and they have chefs cooking and their gym trainer is making sure that they're getting the exact amount of They're doing so many things right that nature will excuse the idiotic ghee (16:41) coffee nonsense that they spout, right? And they they themselves, right? It's like, for example, there are 100 110-year-old people living in Sicily and Sardinia and all of that. And people don't look, they smoke and they drink. I said, "Yes, but they do tons of other amazing things. They have great company. (16:57) They eat moderately. They eat a lot of fresh vegetables. Their diet is very very filled with olive oil and these kinds of things." Um And if anything, the quality of the rest of their lifestyle excuses their smoking and drinking. If they also didn't smoke and drink, they'd probably live even longer, right? That's what we don't know. (17:15) So, the whole this celebrity drinking ghee coffee does not prove ghee coffee is >> Yeah. >> is good. It just proves that they're probably like so healthy >> Yeah. >> that this is they're not probably not doing much to them. To come back to your grocery shopping if you will, right? It's It's just that I think there's an entire ecosystem on the internet um that essentially is creating this anxiety for no good reason. (17:36) >> Yeah. >> Right? No good No good reason It's It's fantastic for them, clearly. I think they're selling courses, they're selling alternatives, expensive alternatives. Um so >> Yeah, there's a protein bread also. >> Yeah, moon-charged ghee and you know all those sort of things. But I think you know um at the end of the day every study in the world just says that just eating more vegetables is good for you. (17:59) >> Yeah. >> No study says that eating organic vegetables is better. >> Really? >> Eating more vegetables beats switching from you know >> Yeah. >> regular to some organic. >> Oh. >> I'm just saying like so um if you're breaking your head over should I eat this tomato >> Mhm. >> because it's not organic >> Mhm. >> um and so on. (18:24) And instead another person saying let me eat two tomatoes instead of one tomato. The person eating two tomatoes huge benefits. >> Oh. >> Simply because tomatoes are amazing. >> Yeah. >> More lycopene, more of the uh not to mention the center of the tomatoes are all glutamates, right? So >> And iron also, yeah. Okay, so organic or non-organic makes no difference. (18:45) My god, that's a lot of money saved. >> See, the whole point is that I think uh if um if you are growing vegetables in your backyard >> Mhm. >> there is no doubt that you can be absolutely certain >> Mhm. >> um that you know pesticides uh no pesticide residues um and and yeah, that's great, right? I mean uh it's it's great if if you can if you have the if we or you know personally know a farm >> Yeah. (19:08) >> um and you know exactly how how you source it and you can afford it. >> Mhm. >> By all means, right? But if you want but if you're just going for some marketing and somebody says this is organic, it's a marketing term. >> Oh, okay. >> They are If you're running a company, you you will just comply with the the letter of the law to the bare minimum. (19:30) >> Mhm. >> Cuz otherwise then you can't make a profit. So, organic means that you're not allowed to use synthetic pesticides. You're allowed to use organic pesticides. >> Oh. >> Organic Many organic pesticides >> in it. >> Many organic pesticides are equally if not more toxic than synthetic pesticides. They use copper sulfate. (19:46) >> Oh, and I'm still paying a premium for it. >> You're you're paying a premium. >> Wow. >> See, like again, as I said, look, so sometimes you you choose you choose a particular kind of vegetable because it tastes better to you. >> So, oh, I have a small question here. So, is there a difference in where the body breaks down organic versus non-organic? >> No. (20:03) It's the same thing, right? I mean, [clears throat] look, see, in in the in the in the in the most idealized situation, the the organic vegetable um if it is attacked by pests, >> Right. >> um the plant then produces a lot more antioxidants and these kinds of flavonoids to prevent the pest from attacking it, and that is what we experience as flavor, right? And some of those antioxidants are good for you, and so on, right? But if a if a plant is grown in a very pristine pesticide-laden kind of environment, no pests, etc. (20:35) , etc., it won't produce as much flavor. So, that's why So, in the extreme sense, so sometimes you go to the US and you get the supermarket tomatoes, they have like very little or no flavor. >> Yeah. >> But they're still good for you, so I think you know, people are overthinking this. And in some sense, no, I think sometimes I find that the the rich generally >> Mhm. (20:55) >> want the extra money they spend to mean something. >> Yeah. >> And unfortunately, I'm here to tell them that no, right? You want it to mean that it is healthier for you. It's not any healthier than just eating more vegetables. >> So, it's basically a mindset which you are following. >> right? Yeah. Right. >> Okay. (21:12) >> I mean, it's like It's So, you you you buy for flavor. I I think that's the most honest way of doing this. You can afford it, you buy it because it tastes better to you. Like the fancy the moon is not doing anything to the ghee. But, the ghee is probably sourced from great high-quality milk um and and and the process makes sure that it gives it an amazing amount of flavor. Great. (21:33) You're paying a premium for it. The moon had nothing to do with it. That's marketing. >> Right. >> So, I think it is it is it's it's all to do with the marketing. >> moon supposed to do? Is it sending some rays or what into it that it's going to do something? It's too far away to do anything. >> [laughter] >> It's too far away, yeah. Okay, but okay. (21:46) So, I get the tomatoes and I get this thing, but there's one evil which we all have really discarded from our list, which is maida. Okay. And I'll also come to gluten, but first let's start with maida. Okay. I used to thrive on Maggi and Maggi's maida, right? And I used to like it was my breakfast, it was my dinner at times, and everything about maida like those you know those kathi rolls which you get which are like made out of pure maida roti. Oh god. (22:16) But, now maida has become my absolute no-no because first of all, does maida get stuck to your gut? Is that true? >> Not true. >> Not true. >> Not true. >> Oh my god. >> So, you know, the first thing people have to realize is that um um in the macronutrients you eat uh refined carbohydrates are digested the fastest. >> Okay. >> Right? Uh that's why they spike your blood sugar very quickly, right? Because it gets digested very fast. (22:42) Anything that takes time to digest will only spike your blood sugar more gradually. >> Okay. >> Because it takes time to digest, right? Refined carbohydrates reach your blood in like 20 minutes. >> Yeah. >> Right? So, um you cannot have something spike your blood sugar fast and also stick to your gut. You you have to pick one, right? >> Oh, yeah. (23:00) But, it's getting digested, so how is it sticking to your gut? >> Yeah, exactly. It's just It's common sense, right? It can either spike your blood sugar or it can stick to your gut. It can't do both. And there's enough of these CGM jokers who will tell you that my maida spikes your blood. >> [snorts] >> So, that evidence is there. (23:17) Right? So, people can see it for themselves. So, therefore, that's the first thing. So, the real the real danger of maida is no different from people who consume a large amount of white rice. And so, what is the same thing? It's just refined starch. With no fiber. All of the fiber has been removed in that process. (23:39) The bran and the the germ has been removed. So, you only left with the starch. And protein. Right? So, the protein part of wheat is gluten. Right? That's the stretchy thing. Right? And the only thing is that the difference between atta and maida is that the atta atta is made from the entire grain. So, it has a lot of that fiber. (24:05) And that fiber like slows down a little bit. Chapatis will still spike your blood sugar. Let's be clear. If you eat like four chapatis, all of that it will spike your blood sugar. >> [clears throat] >> But maida is just like is even less fiber. At least you're getting some fiber. Right? With maida, you're not getting any of that. (24:21) So, again, the question is what are you eating it with? Right? So, you're eating a small portion of rice with vegetables and dal and paneer or fish or something like that. That's a balanced meal. Same thing. You could have like a Bengali luchi, which is sort of fried maida. Right? Batura is like giant. And the other thing is that traditionally the batura is also fermented. (24:45) Fermentation again is is a beneficial thing. So, bread is basically fermented maida. Right? So, even even some of your fancy sourdough and all that, starting point is some all purpose flour or maida. At the very least, at least half of it is going to be that, right? Nobody is making bread from 100% atta. (25:02) That's like the bread won't rise. >> Yeah. >> So, what happens is that the question is what you're having. If you're having instant noodles, you can add an egg to it, you can add vegetables to it, and that's that's a decent meal. If you're not doing it like six times or seven times a week, right? It's an emergency meal. >> Yeah. (25:23) >> Right? >> Yeah. >> But, you've got your carbs, you've got fat also by the way. It's fried noodles are also fried. But, everything else you're adding is all the things that it is missing, which is fiber and protein. Top it with two eggs and add a bunch of large amount of vegetables. >> And it will do the deal. Oh. (25:38) >> That's fine, right? I mean, that's all there is to it. So, there is no need to again it's it's all about demonizing single ingredients, right? And the idea is that you demonize the the most common one, you get everybody's attention. That's all there is. >> Yeah. Okay. So, basically it does not get stick to your gut and you combine it with a proper >> not stick to the gut. (25:56) And this whole gut sticking also is like people thinking that the gluten that thing, right? Because in maida the gluten is going to be a lot more stronger than when you when it is in atta. And and so people somehow sort of confuse all of that. No, gluten is just wheat protein. And the simply going to get >> inflammation? Does it cause inflammation? >> No, it doesn't. (26:19) So, so the whole point is that so it's it's a more complicated thing. A tiny person, 1% of the world's population has this very specific problem where they're not able to digest gluten. Right? Where the body when it when it is attempting to break apart gluten, it mistakenly thinks that this is a foreign object that I have to attack. So, the immune system comes. (26:47) >> Okay. >> Basically, see inflammation is basically your body's immune system >> Mhm. >> uh, a threat >> Right. >> from the food you ate. >> Mhm. >> Right. So, and there's one example that it happens in many other places, but when the your immune system arrives there, that's where you get an inflammation. (27:02) So, then your um, sustained inflammation again is is not good for you. It increases your cancer risk and so on, right? Um, so essentially what then happens is the immune system, those cells come and completely destroy your absorptive machinery in the small intestine. >> Okay. >> And so, therefore then those people when their their villi are damaged, they can't absorb anything else from food. (27:25) >> Oh. >> That's when they become like weak and so, that is where celiac uh, so that is where they must not eat the gluten. >> Okay. >> By the way, this is what happens >> is only for that 1% of the population. >> is no different from people who are allergic to soy. >> Okay. >> The same thing, right? The body body treats something in soy as being the same thing with peanut uh, nut allergies, tree nut allergies, um, egg allergies, fish allergies, crustacean, shellfish allergies, mollusk allergies. (27:49) So, milk >> Mhm. >> lactose, right? So, your body does not produce lactase, so can't digest the milk. Goes undigested and then you have all these allergies. >> Yeah. >> Right. So, so the same um, that's exactly what's happening with the with this with this whole celiac uh, this thing, right? >> Okay. >> So, for those people, the inflammation is a concern. (28:07) >> Mhm. >> No different from any kind of allergen. That's why they mention wheat allergy is is mentioned as a very specific thing in the big eight allergy list, right? Um, and that's all that's the only situation. A few more percentage of people >> Mhm. >> also have trouble digesting wheat. >> Right. >> This could be anywhere from 2 to 3%. (28:26) All in all, still more than 95% of people are going to be absolutely fine. The world over, the two staples are rice and wheat. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> So, there is >> Basically, there's a genuine medical problem for those people it can cause inflammation. >> Otherwise, it's absolutely safe to eat. >> The other situation is going to be you take rice or you take wheat um, >> Um, and your diet is completely imbalanced. (28:49) Meaning that all you're eating is carbs. >> Yeah. >> And that is slowly building insulin resistance. Then there is more sugar in your blood. >> Mhm. >> That over time is also going to cause inflammation. >> Yeah. >> So, that is a decade-long thing that is that is anyway happening to most Indians. The traditional Indian diet is causing that. (29:08) >> Yeah. Yeah. >> By the time they're 50. Yeah. >> [clears throat] >> So, obviously then we come back to the moderation piece. >> You come back to moderation. >> Moderation. Okay. So, maida is not the evil then and gluten is not the evil then and nothing so gluten-free cookies and gluten-free bread and >> For celiac people, >> Yeah. Of course. (29:22) >> See, the other interesting thing what also happens is that sometimes people fall for this social media stuff and say I'm going to cut out gluten. >> Yeah. >> And they carefully look at every single thing and the moment it says gluten, they'll keep it aside. >> Correct. >> You do that for 6 months, you'll find that you're probably reducing your overall caloric intake. (29:41) >> Oh. >> good for you. >> Oh. Oh. >> It's like completely It's like It's like losing weight because you're sick, no? It's sort of like that. >> Oh, yeah. >> Right? And that's not It's not a good enough reason to fall sick. >> Fall sick. >> Right? It's the same thing. >> Great. Okay. So, this is all about the food. Okay. (29:57) But there is one more and I would say equipment in the kitchens which was first brought into our lives as the biggest convenience, biggest saver of time, everything else. We got you got used to it and now we are being told that it's all radiation and toxins and you know what I'm talking about. >> Yeah. >> Microwaves. >> Yes. >> Every kitchen has a microwave, okay? And like maida is not the evil, rice is not the evil, is microwave an evil? >> Not at all. (30:22) >> Is food? >> So, I think there's a It's It's also unfortunate that um I guess if people had paid better attention in like middle school science, >> Okay. >> they'd have realized that a microwave is basically non-ionizing radiation. >> Okay. >> I mean, even in fact, in my previous book there was a funny diagram that basically says that it University has the whole thing reversed, right? According to WhatsApp University, staring straight at the sun is good for you. (30:50) >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> That's what's going to give you UV damage and and probably damage your retina. But but microwave is like cancer. It's the exact opposite, right? Indians will not wear sunscreen. >> Yeah. >> But worry about microwave when it's the exact opposite. >> Yeah, that's true. >> Ultraviolet is is going to give you skin cancer, increase your cancer risk. (31:08) And microwave is going to do absolutely nothing because it doesn't have enough energy to to to do those things, to change your DNA, right? And also there's a there's a sort of this is basically a part of a broader historical thing where we've always resisted anything that made women's lives in the kitchen easier. (31:28) And my great grandfather's generation said, "No LPG stove. You have to cook on a wood fire, right?" And then at some point they were like, "No, I think LPG is like more convenient." They got comfortable with that. Then they said, "But no pressure cooker. You have to cook the dal in the open pot, right?" >> Yeah. (31:43) >> And then when they realized Yeah, and they said, "But then then when they realized that the that the whole uh pressure cooker >> Mhm. >> is saving them money because it it cooks in a short amount of time compared to open pot. Indians, if there's one thing they care money they care about, right? So they're like, "Ah, no, no. (32:00) I think then they made their peace with the pressure cooker, right?" Then it became fridge. "Oh, no, no. No keeping yesterday's food." And then when they realized that actually if I'm Once women are working, cooking every day is not a thing unless everybody helps in the kitchen, >> Correct. >> right? So men would rather eat yesterday's food than help in the kitchen, right? Then they got comfortable with like yesterday's food and refrigerator, right? And the moment they went abroad you find NRI's double the size of refrigerator and (32:29) everything. They're like freezing base gravy, everything they're freezing, right? >> Yeah. >> Uh and so on. They got comfortable with the fridge. So >> then the next barrier now is microwave. Because now microwave is the extension to the fridge that allows you to reheat it, right? Because then you don't have to eat it cold, no? >> Yeah. (32:44) >> Um and now there's an air fryer and this are the new uh sort of these things. And uh 5 years from now people will laugh at the kind of uh content and uh what people Our children will probably say that look, you know, you people used to say the air fryer and they'll laugh at it. (33:01) Just like we are laughing at my grandfather's generation about the pressure cooker and they were laughing about the wood-fired uh at the sil batta, you know, great grandfather's. >> But does it have an effect? Cuz see, honestly, the food cooked slowly on wood is now a luxury, actually. Firewood pizzas is a luxury. But food cooked on wood is not nowhere to be found. (33:21) Similarly, is microwave is doing it something to the nutrients of the food? Is there any connection there? >> So, if anything, uh microwave causes the smallest amount >> Okay. >> of nutrient loss compared to cooking on a gas stove. >> Oh. >> Yes, or a wood fire, it's okay. >> Okay. >> Because um in a in a in a any kind of stove, the heat is applied from the bottom via metal surface that's like super hot, almost like 1,000 degrees, right? So, the bottom of your food is absolutely getting burnt and all your nutrients (33:52) from the bottom of your food are gone anyway. At least the what the vitamin B, vitamin C are destroyed, right? >> Oh. >> And then slowly the heat is a lot less as you get to the top of the food. That's how, right? Um in a microwave the radiation actually heats the water from the inside of your food. The food is cooking from the inside out. (34:10) >> Okay. >> And so, that's why you can heat water in like 30 seconds. >> Yeah. >> Right? It takes like 5 minutes to heat water that same amount of water on a on a regular stove, right? And because of the sheer amount of time, the short amount of time, that's not enough time for vitamins to be lost. >> Oh. >> Vitamins take time to get destroyed, right? So, that's why when you reheat something, you lose the smallest amount of vitamin B, vitamin C if you microwave, right? So, the truth actually is the exact opposite of what these (34:36) influencers say. >> [laughter] >> My god, there's just so many concepts that I mean, there's a huge amount of anxiety that has been created around all of this, which I feel >> I think the the I think the one of the healthiest habits now is to um ironically stop consuming >> Yeah. >> content from people who are telling you not to consume >> Yeah. Yeah. (34:59) >> That's the best. >> That's true. >> Best for your health, best for your mental health, best for everything else. I think if people stop consuming that kind of content, then the incentives hopefully will change. >> Yeah. No, obviously. And also, I feel if they kind of try and understand how everything works, >> [laughter] >> then it will be a game changer. (35:15) >> and the funny thing is that you actually don't need anything more than high school science. >> Oh, okay. >> Right? You don't need um literally, as I said, I think the you know, this book is sort of, you know, dedicated to my biology teacher in school, right? And I did engineering, but I did two two years of biology, right? I did both medicine and um and um um the fact that that she explained everything from first principles is why I still vividly remember it. (35:40) >> Yeah. >> Right? Most people learn it at a shallow level, right? Um like for example, the memorable view of the fact that, you know, you can swallow food even if you're hanging upside down because it doesn't rely on gravity. >> Oh. >> Right? There's a series of muscles that just compress in waves, so they just push the food down the tube, and it works even if you're hanging upside down. (36:01) >> Oh, wow. Never thought of that. >> And so, it's just that and and the fact that uh the stomach >> Mhm. >> acid is so strong >> Yeah. >> that it literally kills anything living, right? So, that's your first barrier against any kind of food poisoning. >> Okay. Yeah. >> And so, bacteria and most things, right? And that's why when you intuitively then people see marketing about probiotics, >> Yeah. (36:26) >> and when you realize that, yeah, but my high school biology tells me that the acid in the stomach is going to destroy almost all bacteria, should immediately temper your expectations of the hype around probiotics. >> Yeah, actually probiotics is something which has been fed into our system so much and this whole gut microbiome and the whole good bacteria, bad bacteria. (36:44) >> You ask any gut expert, they will tell you the the 90% of your attention should be on prebiotics, not probiotics. Prebiotics are food that you cannot digest that your existing bacteria consider as food. >> Okay, for example. >> Dal. >> Oh, okay. >> Right? There should just be more dal in your food, more soluble fiber. (37:04) >> More soluble fiber. >> Yeah, which is vegetables. Um, not all vegetables, by the way. There's there's and not all fruits, right? So, your your guava, amazing. Grapes, not so much, right? Watermelon, not so much. Cucumber, not so much. So, those are like insoluble fiber. Actually, see, cucumber is basically um 95% water. (37:21) >> Okay. >> It's it's like it's like drinking a solid version of water. You're not getting much >> So, there's no fiber there. >> Very little. What do you get? It's like 95% water only. >> Oh, yeah. But when your dietitian says have salad, people go and have cucumber. >> Because it's easy to eat, but you see, it has another role, right? >> Okay. (37:37) >> But it still helps you trigger satiety. >> Okay. >> Because eating water in solid form, it is going and filling up your stomach. >> Right. >> Once your stomach gets filled up, you are it's starting to send signals enough. >> Mhm. >> And you've consumed something that is like you've consumed something that has little or no calories. (37:52) >> Mhm. >> Right? So, that way you it has other side effects that can >> And you will eat less of other >> But it is not it is not neither calories for you nor for your gut bacteria. >> Okay. >> It is dal, all that resistant starch, rajma, chana, all of that is most of those calories are for your gut bacteria. (38:07) >> Oh, got it. >> So, that I think and then those are that's really where most of your gut health comes from. >> these evils that we have identified which are not evil, maida, rice, gluten, is there a different way that our stomachs and systems digest them and >> No, not nothing at all. So, the stomach has see, basically your your your body sees food as in in sort of three broad ways, right? Uh carbohydrates, right? And there are two kinds, right? I mean the the easy to digest ones the simplest ones are just sugar. (38:33) >> Yeah. >> Uh need little or no digestion. Right? They just you know the in in fact your your mouth itself uh will break down sucrose into glucose and and by the time it gets down it just gets directly absorbed, right? >> Okay. >> Your potatoes and all your rice and everything else again by the time it reaches the small intestine it'll just become glucose and it gets gets in very quickly. (38:52) >> Okay. >> Uh proteins are big complicated molecules and it takes a lot of time and effort >> Yeah. >> in the small intestine to break down into amino acids. Uh so, it takes like a few hours, right? >> And that's why you feel full for longer. >> Yeah, right? And fats >> Yeah. >> take the longest because they're the densest form of calorie storage. (39:08) >> Okay. >> And so, your body needs to break them from their existing structures and then reassemble them into um and by the way your body also is like mostly made of water. >> Yeah. >> And we know oil doesn't mix with water, right? >> Correct. >> has a very complicated transport mechanism because how do you transport fat through something that is water? Your blood, right? >> can't travel together. (39:29) >> Yeah, so that's why your your lipids are wrapped into proteins which are like water soluble. That's why they're lipoprotein your blood your your uh >> that's why they say with fats you need to have enough protein. >> Your blood test will show you LDL and HDL. That's what these are. That you know high density lipo That's it. (39:44) These are particles that carry fat. >> Mhm. >> Right? Okay. >> Uh so, if I actually try and if I actually understand all of this I'll be able to understand what to eat, how, with, when. >> and at least at the very least you will say that this doesn't pass the basic common sense smell test. >> Yeah. >> Right? Microwave, maida uh sticking to your gut. (40:01) >> Correct. Yeah. Then it doesn't make sense. Logic is not >> person CGM, you know, spike. And that's that's that's I studied this in school that when you eat a meal your blood sugar will rise is something you study in like class 11, >> Mhm. >> right? >> But there is a whole concept of metabolic health also, right? Like some people's metabolism is super good, some people's is very bad. (40:20) >> you say something like metabolism is good, it's it's it's like a too high level. You know what does it exactly mean, right? >> Yeah, actually. >> So it means like for example, that it could mean one of many things. One is that you have a healthy diversity of gut bacteria, right? >> Yeah. >> So which are producing enough butyrate and enough this thing, so which are the fuel that your immune system actually needs. (40:41) So which means that your immune system is good and so on. It could mean that. >> Yeah. >> The second thing is that you simply do not have the usual things that can break in metabolism. >> Okay. >> Most basic one, common one, right? People >> [clears throat] >> Many of these Indian uncles will eat a heavy meal and then drink Eno. >> Yeah. >> They'll say, "Oh, I'm I'm feeling acidity, right?" Half the time it's one of two reasons. (41:02) >> Mhm. >> Either that they have a weak sphincter where the acid stomach acid and food is coming up and then it's sort of burning your esophagus. >> Okay. >> Right? Or they have a Helicobacter infection which is causing ulcers. >> Got it. >> Which spicy food will irritate. Spicy food will not cause, it will irritate, right? It's it's a symptom rather than the cause of the problem, right? So it could be that people don't have that problem, right? The second thing is that insulin resistance, right? You are not You're exercising enough, you have (41:31) enough muscle. >> Mhm. >> And so your body can tolerate a reasonable range of meals. Like you can tolerate one pizza party. >> Mhm. >> Right? >> Mhm. >> You can tolerate one thali. You can tolerate an occasional Diwali sweets and all that. Whereas for the others it's like wrecking their system because it's like sugar blood sugar goes too high, insulin resistance is going up and then your pancreas is giving up and you have diabetes, right? Or it could mean that you have less fatty liver than somebody else, right? (41:58) Or your kidneys are functioning better than others. Again, so what when people say I have great metabolism means it's like it means nothing. >> Yeah. >> to be more specific. >> Yeah. >> And so I think that part of the whole thing is that people should not accept these generalisms. Get to the first principles. (42:15) It is not too hard, right? It may be complicated, right? Our bodies are not meant to be like simplified. See, although this is an engineer's guide to the body, engineers' idea is that everything can be broken down into an absolute simple building blocks. But there is also a very foundational thing, but the difference between biology and engineering is that biological systems were not engineered. (42:37) They evolved. >> Okay. >> Right? A person didn't sit and put these parts together, right? Nature Nature tried like a trillion experiments and we are products of trillion versions of experiments that survived and reproduced. So it's all a very messy system. >> Yeah. Got it. >> Right? Like that's why like for example, famines in the past >> Yeah. (43:00) >> have meant that Indians are not great at dealing with high-calorie diet today, right? >> Yeah. Also our bodies are more trained to face famine. >> And you know, for example, sickle cell anemia >> Okay. >> right in Africa, where your your your red blood cells have that shape and so on and causes anemia and iron is essential, so they have less oxygen carrying capacity, which you would imagine is problematic. (43:22) Interestingly enough, protects them from malaria. >> Oh. >> So you So why did sickle cell anemia survive genetically if those people were so sickly? Because they survived malaria. >> Mhm. >> You could be super healthy, but malaria used to kill you. >> Oh. >> Right? But if you have sickle cell anemia, you're less likely to die from malaria. (43:37) >> Yeah. It's >> so there are so many what you consider weakness in one part is a strength for something else, right? And so therefore it's like it is such a multifactorial complicated messy feedback loop system that in a sense I think, you know, be mistrustful of people who try to oversimplify it and say, "Oh, metabolism, I will coach your gut." No. (44:00) Like you can be a fitness coach. You can't be some gut coach and all that other than ask people to eat more dal. >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean, what I'm learning now is that if I am able to understand my body better and how it's processing food and everybody's body is different, I'll be able to judge what fad, what trend, what >> So you know what you know what level of simplicity >> Yeah. (44:22) >> works and at what point is somebody over simplified. >> Got it. This is such a This is such a How do I say it's like bob of myths being broken today. >> [laughter] >> And the funny thing is that you know all of these Every time it surprises me that one all you have to do is read a high school science textbook. (44:43) >> Yeah. >> Um and it should be pretty evident. >> Yeah. >> And what surprises me is the fact that um many people still trust >> Yeah. >> the what the influencer says over what a textbook says. >> Mhm. >> Because they've also been sold this idea that no no these institutions have been corrupted. (45:04) Right? They're taking money from pharma. >> Yeah. >> Right? They're taking money. Exactly. Right? >> No, absolutely. And you know this was actually my last thing which I wanted to ask you which you already covered that where is this coming from? Is it really the farmers who are getting into this? Is it the influencers? Is it the lobbies? >> It's See I I always thought it funny. (45:23) >> is so expensive but I cannot do without it. >> No, to be fair see I think you know see whey protein is expensive because the the machines that process milk into whey are expensive. >> Mhm. >> Um and that too especially in a country where you don't have much of a cheese tradition. >> Okay. >> See that that is waste >> Mhm. (45:44) >> product from the cheese making tradition. Your raw material is therefore naturally there and then you you've had time to build the economies of scale with the rest of >> question here because my mother keeps telling me that you know when you are making paneer from milk the the remnant is actually >> Is whey protein. Yes. (45:59) >> So she's like I don't drink this. >> Yes, it's also lactose. Yeah. >> [laughter] >> It's also lactose. So, the the isolate whey isolate ends up removing all the lactose, right? So, it's And there's it's very dilute. >> Ah, okay. >> So, yeah, it's like eating watery dal. So, yeah, and then also you're eating a lot of the milk sugar. (46:16) That's what's happening. >> Yeah, that's true. >> Uh, and that's going to spike your blood sugar, by the way, for people who are worried about that. Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Yeah, so so the whole point is that because now you've removed all the other you've removed the fat. >> Yeah. >> See, normally what happens is milk is low glycemic index because the fat >> Mhm. (46:31) >> slow and the casein slow down the spike. >> Right. >> You've You've taken that out. Only lactose is there and some tiny amount of whey. >> Ah. >> Uh, it's just going to spike your blood sugar. So, the point is that I think yeah, so that's why it's expensive. And again, weirdly in India, we will consider milk to be vegetarian but eggs to be not vegetarian, which is another entirely silly cultural thing. (46:51) >> That's another podcast debate. >> Yeah, we will Yes, you can you can keep a cow pregnant back-to-back eight times and that is considered moral and vegetarian. >> Yeah. >> But you prevent a hen from getting pregnant and take its eggs that are basically waste products and that's considered non-veg, which is just silly. (47:06) Um, actually, if we get used to like egg white protein and so on, right? >> Yeah. >> Mhm. That's as high quality as whey and much cheaper. >> Yeah. >> And I hope we eventually sort of get there. But yeah, that's the whole point about all of this. >> Got it. >> So, in my opinion, the the whole uh People sometimes don't realize that the size of the supplement nutraceutical wellness alternate wellness industry >> Yeah. (47:31) >> much, much bigger than pharma. >> Oh. >> You can go look it up. >> Okay. >> Massively big, right? So, those people saying that this is pharma funded, man, this is pot calling kettle black. They are way, way more funded >> Mhm. >> than the regular medicine industry. You know, one one with one key difference. >> Right. (47:52) >> Regular pharma has to go through a painstaking amount of checks over decades to prove that a medicine works. >> Right. >> In the lab, in the model, in a rat, in a monkey, in humans, many times in humans. >> Yeah. >> And before it goes to the market, and after that it can't be advertised. >> Uh correct. >> Right? Yeah. (48:13) >> This one. >> Oh, yeah. >> No checks. You can pass off anything. You can say this is 2,000 year old. This is ancient Chinese medicine. This is Unani. This is Ayurveda. >> Yeah. >> You can say whatever you want. You can put whatever you want. You can sell it. You can make any claim you want. Right? And then you can advertise all you want. (48:30) Make as many reels and podcasts as you want. Not a single doctor can mention a drug by name >> Yeah. >> for fear of the fact that the medical council will say, "Sorry, that's that's a violation of your this thing. You cannot promote a medicine." >> Yeah. >> Right? So, I think it is it's a crazy asymmetry. I hope people realize that. (48:50) Right? The solution is not to blindly trust doctors. >> Of course. >> Is is to first get yourself a base of knowledge where one, you can ask your hospital and your doctor better questions >> Right. >> for alternate opinions. >> Absolutely. >> For better explanations. Right? Why should I go through this treatment? So, that's that's the point there. (49:07) Right? Apply that same knowledge to call out the quackery on the at industrial scale. >> Yeah. >> Right? And hopefully, I mean, at maybe at least just stop muting all of these and stop watching these things. Right? So, yeah, I mean, it's up to you for you whether you want to doomscroll >> Yeah. >> or do something else better with your life. (49:24) >> you do you know that health is the most searched keyword on YouTube right now? >> Yeah. I'm not surprised. >> It's the most searched and asked for. >> People want to search for nonsensical scary content and scare themselves with it. >> Yeah. >> Right? You know, sometimes, you know, I as a friend of mine was just pointing out that the constant stress and anxiety >> Mhm. (49:42) >> which then spikes your cortisol and other things. Right? >> Yeah. >> May very well be doing more damage. >> Mhm. >> Right? Meaning that, you know, you could just eat that kathi roll. >> Yeah. >> And that will likely do roughly about the same damage as being under a constant stream of anxiousness about consuming maida. (50:02) >> Oh god, so first of all you're consuming maida, which is giving you whatever health, but the anxiety is just adding to it. >> Yeah. >> Oh, so the whole food anxiety is just an additional layer of >> instead >> pain. >> Two of you buy one kathi roll, share it. >> Yeah. >> Enjoy the kathi roll. >> Yeah, and don't be guilty about it. (50:19) >> And don't be guilty about it, right? Eat healthy the rest of the time, right? >> Yeah, so just indulge once in a while. Yeah, do your thing. >> So there's So the whole idea is that sometimes I think again this is also complicated, right? Sometimes um you are you're in a com- you're in a company of people, friends, and So many research shows that socialization with other human beings is great for you, great for health itself, right? Rather than being alone, right? And sitting just in doomscrolling alone, um and just chatting with either (50:44) chatbots or now, you know, all all these social media feeds, right? Um being around people. And when you're being around people at that point of time when you're eating like a pizza and all that, instead of saying, "No, no, no, get me a gluten-free uh being an annoying uh this thing where you're not able to share food and all that, right? Uh enjoy that. (51:01) Just don't do it every day. >> Yeah, no actually uh Japanese have this philosophy of ikigai, right? Where you actually live and eat with a community. You don't go at it alone. And they end up living till 90 and 100, so obviously we've got to learn from them. >> I think there's a certain lesson, you know, one of the lessons I want to sort of within Masala Body is the fact that the body is this this amazingly complicated feedback loop of so many contradictions and like you cannot hyper-optimize everything. (51:29) Mhm. Right? If you hyper-optimize trying to nail down everything, that anxiety is going to hurt you. Yeah. Right? If you let loose on just carbohydrates, then something else will hurt you, right? If you say, "No, I will only eat protein and consume like 200 g of protein a day," your kidneys will give up, right? I mean, it's just that there is See, there is So, there are there is no such thing as a perfect diet, right? I mean, you are trying to So, take a lesson from your own body and and then basically just calm down. Don't Don't (51:56) let these people fool you into thinking that you can hyper-optimize. You can eat some random supplement. >> Yeah. Replace things. >> to replace things and, you know, you can you can fix your gut health. You can cleanse your gut and all that other stuff. >> I think now till by the end of this podcast, I'm also quite educated on this. (52:13) Who's going to now go and talk about this to someone else. >> people should go and then industrial scale mute and block people who make scam marketing content. >> Don't like the content and it will go from the algo. >> Just remove them and say, "Never show me these things again." >> Or read Masala Body cuz you've got to understand how the body is functioning and working. (52:30) >> You know, on on an ironic note, I think I I keep telling people that um if you read this book, um you should learn to distinguish between uh content, knowledge, and advice. >> Right. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Everything I do, including me, is not knowledge on the on social media. It's content. >> Yeah. >> It's meant to be entertainment. (52:49) It's meant to be a provocation. Don't treat it as anything more than that. Knowledge takes years of study, textbooks, right? It's for people to who dedicate their entire lives to it, right? You cannot condense explain how the heart works in a 30-second 90-second reel, right? It is It is more complicated than that. (53:07) >> I mean, there are people who spent years studying it. >> Exactly, right? So, so don't distinguish between content and knowledge. Even doctors coming on social media are not sharing knowledge. They're sharing content. >> Content. >> Be very clear about it, right? Knowledge comes from textbooks. (53:21) Be very clear about it because it's peer review. Nobody's peer reviewing your social media content. Advice only comes in your personal and private context. There is no universal advice. Universal advice is sleep as much as you can, exercise as much as you can, build muscle, eat more protein and fiber, eat less saturated fat, walk more. That is universal advice. (53:40) Everything else has to be personalized to you. >> Yeah. >> Right? That you need to eat so much, you need to avoid soy along with thyroid medication. That's all like I can see there are people who say like you must not eat soy because it is bad for your thyroid. This is how people generalize it, which is ridiculous. (53:56) >> Okay. Now a thyroid person will go and panic. >> Exactly. >> I had soy yesterday. >> Which is silly. You know what they'll do? By not eating soy and if they're vegetarian, they'll they'll consume less protein and avoid all the benefits that soy gives you of resistant starch. All the other goodness, right? Because he saw one silly content that said it affects your thyroid. (54:16) >> True. No, that's fair. You know, in fact, when I watch Dr. Colette content also, I kind of understand that they are saying it so that I can then, you know, probably get a personal consult from them and then get the real answer to my queries. That maybe the >> always It's possible See, at the end of the day, no, to be fair, see, I think doctors are also um hamstrung by the number of things they can say. (54:39) >> Yeah. >> they cannot get into. They have to choose their words very carefully because the the medical councils are pretty strict about, you know, what they consider to be an advertisement for anything. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Uh whereas you have to realize that everybody else can say whatever they do. >> Right. (54:55) Wow. Thank you so much, Ashutosh. This was brilliant. I think today's podcast really gave a lot of people at least the knowledge and insight into how their bodies can function. Then obviously the calorie body will go to rest. >> Yes. >> But if you are able to understand how your body functions, a lot of this thing clear your mind, clear your space, and there'll be no guilt around eating because I really believe food is supposed to be enjoyed. (55:20) It's not supposed to keep you in the guilt. >> Yeah. >> Give it such a terrible way to uh people. >> And then there are enough things to give you stress. There are enough things to make you anxious. >> I mean, you you really consider that key is just literally what makes us human. >> Yeah. >> The animals don't cook. >> Yeah. (55:38) >> Cooking is what allows us to outsource digestion. >> Correct. >> Agriculture and all the rest of these things that allows allows us to therefore build this giant brain which allows us to conquer the planet, right? That's what makes us human. >> Yeah. >> And then you're like feeling guilty about it. >> Yeah. >> Yes, of course. (55:53) We've we've we've really not done ourselves any favors with ultra-processed snacks and you know, too much salt and too much sugar and too many refined carbs. >> Mhm. >> Fix that. And don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. >> Yeah. And don't make food evil. Like it's okay. Eat it once in a while. And let your child eat it. (56:08) Let your father eat it. Let your grandfather enjoy it sometimes. Don't make it evil. Which is absolutely one thing which uh we Indians love and hands down Indian food is the best anywhere. >> There is no more there is no part of the world with more variety >> Yeah. >> per square kilometer. >> Correct. And flavors. Like >> Flavor, right? I mean every 100 km >> Yeah. There's a different flavor. Yeah. (56:29) >> I sometimes feel like, you know, um we are one country but the culinary diversity that exists within this country is more than the culinary diversity of Europe. >> Yeah. >> which is like >> [clears throat] >> with and they take, you know, French cooking and Italian cooking and Spanish as being so different. Karnataka, Telangana, and Tamil Nadu have about as different a cuisine as you can imagine. (56:50) >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean every state could be a food trip in itself. >> Absolutely. Within that state you're going to have differences across, you know, cultural, religious, you know, social barriers and other >> Imagine you're missing out on all of this because of the food anxiety being created. >> Exactly. (57:04) >> Just understand your body. >> Yeah. >> And everything will work out. Well, amazing. Thank you so much for coming to our podcast. This was brilliant and I'm sure anybody who's listening will want to get their books with the link will be in the description. So, everybody will want to just get it and it will be available wherever books are sold. (57:21) So, don't miss out on it. Of course, Twitter Shok is going to be everywhere on your internet. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> So, listen to him. >> Yeah. And most I think, you know, listen to me from the point of view of being provoked enough to go learn yourself and be skeptical. >> Of everything including my own content. I think that's the way to think about it. (57:38) >> Very fair. Very fair. Thank you so much and you know we hope to see you soon with another one. >> [music]
