Sadguru Telugu Interview with TV5 Murthy | Isha Foundation Mahashivratri | TV5 Entertainment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P65qQ9j0igs
Transcript:
(00:03) Sguru will be Sguru Jan Alpha Billion. What is your inner soul? Devotion is
(00:57) divine. It shows new path for your life. Hollywood star Matthew, comedy star Rain Wilson, youth icon Logan Paul, cricket the
(01:43) Gazalu Chris common person. So in the society. Different people become different things. In the order of life,
(02:28) everybody's the same thing. So I'm not looking for celebrities or icons or anything. I'm always looking for human beings. I'm working with human beings who are convicted prisoners, convicts. I'm working with politicians. I'm working with the poorest of the poor, richest of the rich because I don't evaluate them based on their social status.
(02:59) Well, me life is life. Whether a rich man suffers or poor man suffers, suffering is same in human context. And liberation from that also is same. Somebody is this, somebody is that is a social view. I am not a product of a society. I am a product of if you want to call me a product. I am just the way creator created life.
(03:31) I didn't make anything of myself. I didn't ever try to make something out of myself. I just stayed as I was born simply the same way without any influence of education or religion or politics or philosophies or moralities or ideologies or opinions or prejudices. I didn't allow any of them to influence me. I just stayed as life was made.
(04:06) Well, people think it's valuable and I'm glad because the only valuable thing you have in your life is life itself. Everything else is just imagination. So, global rural villis. Yeah, if you're alive, you're still young. You're not old enough to die. That means so everyone can
(05:01) everybody can but people are busy crippling themselves. Why they themselves is the fear of suffering. What will happen if there is no fear of suffering? Whatever happens, this is how I will be. If this assurance you got, you would also do many more things. My work is just to give you that assurance to make you in such a way.
(05:29) No matter what happens, whatever happens in your life situations, still you are the same within yourself. If you had this freedom, you would also do your best. You would also do many more things. This is what I'm trying to empower humanity with. That there is a way to live where no matter what life does to you, it doesn't leave a single scratch on you.
(05:53) Whatever life throws at you, that's not your choice. Life throws different things at you. What you make out of it is entirely your choice. That choice must be retained by every human being. Otherwise, you are not a human being. you becoming a human creature cuz human being means see we don't call any other life on this planet as a being.
(06:18) We don't call an elephant which is much bigger than you as a being. Tiger not a tiger being lion not a lion being ant not an ant being. Only you are a human being. What this means is you have a choice to decide as to how to be. You may not have a choice as to where to be, what should happen, what should not happen in the world.
(06:42) Maybe there is not much choice. There is some choice, not too much choice. But how to be, you have a choice. That's why you are a human being. You can determine your way of being. If you don't determine that, we're going back in evolutionary scale and becoming human creature. My work is to make people exercise the choice. Be a human being.
(07:03) That means you can decide how to be what to do. Maybe you cannot decide where to be. Maybe you cannot decide. But how to be within yourself, you can decide 100%. No matter who you are. People ask me what is this mission about. One, I jokingly tell them that my mission is to create undercover yogis. They are when you look at them you think oh she's an ordinary housewife but she closes her eyes she's boom you don't know what's happening with her tears of ecstasy are flowing every day somebody is a manager in a bank he closes his
(07:43) eyes she's boom you don't know he looks he's doing his transactions like everybody else so I have created millions and millions of undercover yogis they look very normal they dress like you they eat like you talk like But if they close their eyes they're boom monks can common man can do and miracle of mind chosen 7 minutes >> so everyone can do >> of course see out of 19 million volunteers we have and many many more people who have done the program I don't even know the number last year 2025 our video use are over 6
(08:27) billion with a B. So out of all this there are only about 260 monks because we make it extremely difficult to get into that. Anybody cannot walk in and I must have married thousands of people. I have conducted marriages for thousands of people only 260 monks in so many years. If I just open up the doors with less stringent rules, we will have thousands of monks.
(09:06) But as you said, 6 billion views. tensions, professional tensions. >> Don't look at it like that. >> See, human experience whether it's joy or misery comes from within you, isn't it? Yes or no? >> Yes. >> Pain and pleasure comes from within you. >> Yes. >> Agony and ecstasy comes from within you. When it's coming from within you,
(09:53) obviously you are creating it, isn't it? Why are you creating things that you don't want? That's what we need to look at. Oh, pressure comes, misery comes, it doesn't come. We are creating it. Why are we creating it? We are in a compulsive mode. The most significant aspect of being human is that we can be conscious.
(10:17) See, we are not doing anything very different from what the other creatures are doing. You are born anyway. It's not your making. Somebody did something and you born the same way a dog is born, a cat is born, a buffalo is born, a tiger is born. Everybody's born the same way, isn't it? They grow up.
(10:36) You grow up with lot of fuss. They grow up simply joyfully and they reproduce. You may reproduce that too with lot of fuss. And one day you will die with too much fuss. They also die without so much fuss. You're doing the same things. But because we can do it consciously, it's a world of difference human life. But if you don't do it consciously, if you do compulsively, you're going back in the evol evolutionary scale.
(11:09) Instead of being a human being, you become a human creature. This must change, isn't it? Who can change it? Only you can change it. How long does it take to change? If you make up your mind today, you can change it. You're not a monk, are you? >> You're not a sasi, but you can change it. External life, you may not be able to change for various reasons.
(11:32) You can to some extent, but maybe not 100%. Internally, can you change if you are willing? Why are you not willing? Because compulsive modes have happened, some tracks have been said, ruts have happened. You keep going in the same thing. So somebody need to shake you up. That's why a guru comes to shake you up a little bit.
(11:56) >> Yeah. As you said, guru GPS compulsive conscious response. >> Basic isn't it? If you're responding consciously, will you do something negative against yourself? No. >> Let's say anger. You talked about tension. Let's say tension, stress, something you enjoy. >> No. >> No. If we give test your blood chemistry, when you're peaceful, joyful, how it is.
(12:31) When you're stressful, how it is. It clearly shows you're poisoning yourself. Clearly, 100% you're poisoning yourself. We have substantial studies about these things. Why? Why are you poisoning yourself? Are you doing it intentionally? No. So, first thing is your intent has not been strengthened, isn't it? You're allowing outside situations to set intent for you.
(12:57) It's very important a human being sets the intent. You want to be joyful, you want to be peaceful, you want to be loving, you want to be wonderful, you want to be healthy. This intent is there in everybody but weak not strong. You need to strengthen that. Everybody needs to strengthen that otherwise outside situations will wash you away here and there is uh social stress validation seeking approval external force influence.
(13:34) See it's not like this. Don't tell me people are stressful because of social media. People were stressful even before social media external agencies. >> No. No. You're living in a little village. Social media was neighbor was gossiping about you. You're stressed. Today you increase the scale that's all. But same thing.
(13:58) No true >> but today there's an advantage. If somebody far away gossiping about you, you can cancel him. you can switch him off. At that time your neighbor, you couldn't get rid of him >> because not only your home, both your lands, agricultural lands are also next to each other. You can't run away anywhere. That's the only life you had.
(14:15) At least today you can drop that account and start a new account. So what are you complaining about? See, whichever way life happens, somebody's always complaining. I must tell you this recently Stanford University research shows that every time you complain your brain shrinks. I believe how much it maybe slowly the way people are complaining every day.
(15:03) 30,000 kilome 27 countries so world soch Correct. Science textbook. You read chemistry, biology, education, mathematics, physics, education, literature, education.
(15:50) or you read uh a scripture still education. All right? Education and knowing are two different things. Education is a way of accumulating knowledge. That means you're trying to make yourself into a small scale data center. >> Data center. Yeah. >> So data centers are always producing too much heat. You know the biggest problem of the data center is cooling.
(16:17) So you call it stress tension. Problem is your data center is getting hot and it consumes a lot of energy also. You know data centers are being allowed to build their own nuclear reactors because it needs immense amount of energy and huge amount of cooling. That's why they're putting it on the coast everywhere to you know desalinate and use that water because nobody can provide them river water or anything else because it's too much water for cooling.
(16:47) So this is a you made this into your data center. Here I don't have any data my head is empty. So I walk joyfully. If there is empty everything that happens is heard where there is emptiness. Isn't it? So I hear everything that happens. I don't carry anything on my head. Isn't that the way it should be? For data your phone is there. True.
(17:13) book is there not in your head >> charit is there so knowledge is becoming a burden instead of a blessing >> it's not a burden >> it is just that you don't know how to carry it >> true sguru >> that's all it is not a burden it's just that you have gotten identified with it so it stuck to you all the time you know Shiva as per the legend Shiva pulled out one head of Brahma because he is being very arrogant.
(17:45) You know that? >> Yeah. >> The fifth head removed but it got stuck to his hand. Someone Mahadev himself with a head stuck. So he had to gather his food in the skull and eat the food from the skull because it got stuck in his hand. He had to go somewhere where the energies are strong enough to release it to make it fall.
(18:07) He went to Kashi and it fell off. That's a story. But it's very significant story. It's trying to tell you that it doesn't matter who you are. If somebody's head gets stuck in you, you can't get rid of it. So all the books are somebody else's head. Isn't it? >> True sir. >> It got stuck into you. Not that you should not know what is in that book.
(18:28) You should know if you are interested. But that should not define who you are. The moment that defines who you are, it's stuck in your hand. Now you have to eat out of that skull. He himself went through that pain. So talk below 20 yearsove 60 years followers.
(19:16) below 20 25 years young youth see it is in the nature of being youthful when you're young you want to know it's natural by the time you get reasonably old as far as I'm concerned you're not but I'm saying by the time people get reasonably old they have formed opinions about everything. They call it opinions.
(19:44) It's actually prejudice. Prejudices have happened in their heads. They don't have to know anything. They know everything. Nobody knows everything. Nobody knows anything actually. Really? What do you know in this universe? Tell me this much. So in yoga we say we never identify with our knowledge because your knowledge even if you have digested the libraries of this planet still your knowledge looking at the immensity of this cosmos your knowledge is a minuscule microscopic.
(20:23) If you identify with that, you will become a minuscule. And you'll always feel terrified, insecure in this limitless, seemingly limitless existence. So we always identify with our ignorance. Our ignorance is boundless. Your ignorance, you're a journalist. I can't say this to you. My ignorance is boundless. >> My ignorance.
(20:50) So if you identify with your ignorance what you do not know you will feel boundless. If you identify with your knowledge you will feel like a minuscule and threatened. Somebody else may have read one more book than you. You feel threatened. I don't care what they have read. The youth are coming to me because they find me extremely youthful.
(21:13) >> I'm more young than them. If they're Gen Z, I'm Gen Alpha. >> Gen Alpha. True. I'm all the 26 alphabets. Really? What is this alphabet? Everybody's stealing something. Somebody is stealing words. Somebody stealing alphabets. I'm saying already society is divided in thousand different ways. Now even chronological age is a division.
(21:39) Why? I am A, you're B, your millennium, your Z. I am all the 26. Everybody feels comfortable with me except those who are not interested in truth. Somebody was telling me I was in United States sguru you're so knowledgeable you know everything any question you can answer you're saying what like this this how much capability you have I said see it doesn't take any capability to speak the truth if you want to tell a lie you need lot of competence hello you want to tell a lie convincing lie it takes lot of competence to speak
(22:20) the truth you don't need any competence. You need reckless courage that I have plenty. >> Not only knowledge target with concentration. >> That person who made the video is Tiger Woods putting coach >> I have never trained not one lesson I have took nor I've ever practiced nor I take a practice swing for anything.
(23:03) Sitting ball if you can't hit what can you do in your life? Huh? If you play any other game, the ball will come at you at different speeds, different velocities, different spins, all kinds of things. This is a sitting ball. This doesn't mean I can become a world champion tomorrow. That will take application, you know.
(23:26) I don't have that much application. I play whenever I can. It's not like I'm playing regularly. But sitting ball, sending it where you want is not a big deal. is made a big deal because they have mental diarrhea going on. I don't have diarrhea problems. When I hit the ball, I just hit the ball. That's all.
(23:50) They are thinking of winning the game. I don't care whether I win the game or not. I like to hit the ball the way I want. What? 62 years. >> Six children married children. >> One great grandchild. >> Are you populating the world with golfers? >> Yeah, I hope so. >> Beautiful golf shot. What a golf shot. You never lose a match when you play.
(24:22) You never lose me. Second time, third time is a wow. Sguru death. Last time. Brain surgery. mind.
(25:22) Tell me physical pain. If there was no physical pain, people don't have enough intelligence even to preserve their body. >> Everybody has cut their hair in different fashions. All right? Somebody has removed this. Somebody has removed this, this, this, whatever. Why? Because there's no pain. >> Correct. Correct.
(25:47) >> If there was no pain in your nose, in the name of fashion, they would have made a flower out of it. Yes or no? >> Yes. >> There's no pain in your body. They would take pull their heart out and look at it like this and play catch with it. Yes or no? I love you means they would have pulled out their heart and thrown it.
(26:09) Because there is pain all those silly things are not happening. Isn't it? So pain is a protective mechanism. Pain is very good for you. Otherwise you will destroy yourself. Now suffering already we went through this whether it's suffering or joy. Where is it manufactured? Within you.
(26:30) Why are you manufacturing suffering? Because your religions, your philosophies have illogized suffering. If you suffer, you will go to heaven. If you are so practiced in suffering, there also you will go and suffer. I am asking you first of all, see in the known universe that we know, whatever human beings have explored, the most beautiful and conducive planet for our life is this planet.
(27:02) So I'm asking you, do you have any proof that you are not already in heaven and making a mess out of it? I'm telling you, you're in heaven and making a mess out of it. Suppose you are sitting on Mars or Venus. You look up at Earth and think that is heaven. I would like to go there. Would you think or not? If you are being fried in Mars, >> yes.
(27:24) >> Would you want to go to planet Earth as heaven or no? You're already in heaven making a mess out of it. So in this mindset that people are wherever the hell you send them, they're going to make a mess out of it anyway. First fix it. Huh? Your mind should do what you want.
(27:42) Your mind should produce what you want. Isn't it? It's producing suffering. Is it by choice? No. You have never taken charge of your faculties. That's all. But across cultures and religions, belief system, belief, you must understand in this civilization, this is a very dangerous thing to say but I'm telling you let everybody get it those who are watching your television
(28:27) show this is a godless civilization here this is the only civilization where we told you your life is your karma everywhere else they told them God is doing everything but he does lot of mess all right he creating lot of mess in the world but here we told you your life is your karma What does it mean? Karma means action.
(28:56) >> Your life is your making. This is the most empowering thing. This is the only thing which will live in future. I'm telling you. It's just that we have to present it properly because for the future generations, they don't want to be managed from heaven. Yes or no? >> Yes. Yes. >> Nor do they want to go to heaven.
(29:15) They want to live their life the way they want to live because their lives have been released from the bondage of earning a living and those kind of things because technology and other things has provided that possibility and that confidence in them. So essentially what this means is the responsibility for your life is up there or here you must decide.
(29:41) This civilization always told you the nature and the quality of your life is your karma. It's your making that also they made it negative. You tell them something your karma as if it's dropping upon them from somewhere. It's not dropping anywhere. You are making it. Your suffering is your making. Pain in the body is a protective mechanism.
(30:06) Otherwise you will cut yourself into pieces. Isn't it? So when suffering is your making, why are you making it? You must look at that. Simply because you have not taken charge of your faculties. When you are a little baby, you try to eat and you put it in your nose instead of your mouth because it is not in your control. Or for somebody else in their old age, if Mr.
(30:31) Parkinson visits them, they try to put it in my in their mouth. It will go into their eyes probably. Is that the right way to eat? I'm asking if your faculties were in in control, you put it where you want. The same thing if your thoughts, emotions, your mental structure, your psychological process was under your control, you would create what you want because your silly education system is teaching you what is beating in a cockroach's heart.
(30:59) But you don't know what's happening with this. If you know what's happening with this, you will live a fulfilling life. If you know what's happening the cockroach hard how the thing maybe you will come up with something that instantly because just now some lady asked there are cockroaches in my house should I kill them or not spiritually what will happen to me I said just don't do anything let the cockroaches multiply you go live in the forest they will live in your house hello I'm saying because you trying to run your life with slogans you may call it
(31:34) morality These are slogans. Only the dumbest of the dumb, the most stupid people will try to craft their life around a slogan. You are supposed to exercise your intelligence and respond to every situation as per your intelligence. You may not be the highest intelligence. It doesn't matter.
(31:57) You may not be the best, but you must be at your best. You don't have to be better than somebody but you must be at your best. This everybody can do if they are willing. My work is to make them willing but sguru past previous birth karma impact. >> See do not assume anything. You don't know if there is previous life. All right. >> Yes.
(32:19) >> I'm not saying it's not there. I'm saying you do not know. So do not make up things that you don't know. First thing is this. That's why I said you must identify with your ignorance. You do not know. If you see, I do not know. See, if 10 children are there in the hospital, go and see. Just born. 10 children today.
(32:39) Go to the general hospital. There will be 10 children born. One one day probably. Go and observe these 10 children who are just born. They have not learned anything in this world. But still their behavior will be different from one to another. You can call it genetics. But most children don't behave like their parents, do they? They don't. They do something else.
(33:05) So there may be some information in them. Just an assumption. Don't assume anything. You don't know. Why are you not straight enough a human being to say what I do not know as I do not know? Because I do not know is the greatest possibility. If you say I do not know, the longing to know, the seeking to know and the possibility of knowing becomes a reality.
(33:30) Everything you do not know, you believe. You are not interested in anything that's true. You just want to make up and act like you know something. You will pay for it and you must be somebody digs the earth, slowly pulls out things, cleans it up, heats it, melts it, and gets a gold nugget. You spat out and gold came. Fair or unfair? Unfair. The same thing to clean your mind to keep it in a certain way, a certain level of discipline so that it doesn't do things that you don't want that your hand doesn't go on just pick your nose.
(34:10) Why I'm saying this is out of the 72 varieties of mental ailments, one thing is compulsive nose picking. I believe really compulsive nose picking. Even if they're bleeding, they can't stop it. They keep on picking. So are you picking your nose like that? That much control you have, isn't it? Similarly, what somebody thinks is impossible, somebody else is doing effortlessly.
(34:37) Isn't it? If you start eating, you don't know when to stop eating. I'm saying simplest things. Why? Because you have not strived to bring the discipline. Somebody else you look at them and say oh how are they well why am I not well they worked for it somebody's walking they're very fit oh why is he like that why am I like this means he gets up at 5:00 in the morning and runs goes exercises does yoga does something all right I'm saying for everything there is a price isn't it not willing to pay the price you won't have it as simple as
(35:13) that it's your karma that's why it's You're making karma means don't think some force is acting upon you. It's your own making. The residual impact of every action that we perform in body, mind, emotion and energy is accumulated over period of time and creates a prai that is a predetermined action within you.
(35:36) Well, it's your making. Like if you throw a pebble, it may become an avalanche. Oh, I didn't do it means you are the one who did it. That's how life is. No, >> you see because the human nature is this. Yogi does not mean something outside life. Human nature is this. Everybody is seeking pleasant experience of life. They may call it peace,
(36:21) happiness, joy, peacefulness, joyfulness, >> whatever pleasantness of life. But if you become pleasant, let's say you blissed out and sit here. After some time, you will see it's not enough. Now you want profoundness of life. So when you seek profoundness of life, if you find the deepest profoundness of life, then we say he is a yogi because he experienced the union with the rest of the creation.
(36:52) Because there is no rest of the creation. It's just one. You are thinking you are separate and the universe is separate. It's just a such a silly idea that's been sold assumed simply because of our sense perception. So my interest is everybody should become a yogi for that inspiration we use a yogi.
(37:14) So eight ad yogi is enough. No I at this stage in my life I'm thinking with the resources that we have maybe eight. You are only 55. You must tell me why Sguru only eight let's do 80. Somebody half your age must say let's do 800 because this is not about proving >> guru manifested he can do anything. >> This is not about creating a new religion.
(37:41) No this is a moment from religion to responsibility. This must happen. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you Sguru. Thank you guys so much.
No comments:
Post a Comment