Hidden Science Of Hindu Temples, Sacred Energy Centers & Miracles Explained By The Temple Girl

Hidden Science Of Hindu Temples, Sacred Energy Centers & Miracles Explained By The Temple Girl

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(00:00) He was a pilot then left his job a fancy pilot job because now his father is no longer there. He has continued this ritual and while he was just going to perform the dance he gets to know that his son has fallen from the top to the bottom and literally his half skull is out. >> Oh my god. >> See I told you I'm going to cry.
(00:23) So at that moment he decides that >> what is something that normally people get wrong about temples. >> So most people think that uh temples came first. It is always the energy that comes first. After that is a temple. Our ancestors were I would say intelligent enough to identify these energy centers and then build a temple around it.
(00:51) The energy over there is so intense that no human being can stand in front of the idol. They bring a mirror in front of the dity. They remove the cloth and the dity first sees the daty in the mirror and you won't believe it. The mirror has cracked immediately because of the power of the energy in that idol.
(01:09) >> How do you know where I want to start? Um maybe what is one of those moments that you had in one of the most powerful moments you had in one temple? Um maybe you don't have to explain but maybe take me there like so that what did you see? What did you hear? What did you feel? So um this goes back um 10 years before you know after I got married and um usually couples plan you know for their honeymoon but uh thanks to my husband you know he said let's do a charardamyatra
(01:53) and uh I didn't know anything about chardamyatra to be very frank I didn't know the sea of the chardamatra I didn't know what to expect how difficult it is going to be and you know what am I going to see in that 1520 day trip of mine. So we began planning everything you know all uh uh the 1520 day uh trip.
(02:16) It was a very budgeted trip because we had a little bit of savings and we wanted to ensure you know we are planning everything very carefully. So we sat along together started doing lot of reading researching and finally we put a plan together and we went on this chardam yatra. So speaking about kdanat you know it was one of the most difficult yatras of my life.
(02:39) I almost felt like I died and I came back alive you know it was that difficult because I didn't know the trekking is going to be you know that uh it's not easy just like walking to any other temple. It was steep. The snow was falling. Uh it's extremely narrow. you see you know horses coming and when going up I saw people carrying something on their shoulder and I asked one of them hey what is that and he laughingly said ma'am those are dead bodies and I was like what then he's like yeah >> true you know he said yes ma'am many old
(03:14) people come here believing that uh after dying over here you will get liberation you'll directly get moka because you know Shiva is over there and you'll directly go to heaven. And at that moment, Rodrigo, you won't believe it. I thought this is it. I got married. I've come here. And I think maybe, you know, this is the end of my life because it was extremely difficult climbing up.
(03:40) I couldn't uh catch the breath because the elevation also is, you know, very um high. But uh at that moment, some old person comes to me. He says, you know, don't worry, come you know, I help you climb the mountain. He catches my hand. And we had bags. He took the bags from us. He literally caught both of our hands and he took us up on Kedarat.
(04:02) And that moment when I stood over there. Now Kedarat is extremely famous. But you know when we went over there, I was fully surrounded by all old people. You won't believe it. It was just us who were youngsters over there. And uh there was someone who also asked me why are you doing this so early? like you know usually people come there when they are old and when they >> said like I didn't have a choice >> like it's okay you know even if I die over here you know no problem with that mentality >> uh but that moment you know when I stood
(04:33) over there I didn't even enter the temple but after trekking for almost 9 to 10 hours we started early morning around 5:00 and uh we almost reached around uh 2 or 3 in the afternoon but that moment you know when I stood there in ketarat front of the temple I'm seeing Himalayas all you know right left center and that is when I felt that India our country is so beautiful I hardly know about these places I hardly have read about these places what a journey it was you know so somewhere without my knowing you know that is
(05:12) where my transformation began >> oh wow and then you went into full on with the temple and as I saw what you've been doing you do a lot of research right >> yes >> yes what what was the one of the most surprising things that you uncover in in in all your research >> uh well Rodrigo every time I go to a temple something is unique >> some everywhere I feel wow I did not know about this or how did I not know about this? So, every experience is very unique to me.
(05:54) Let me talk about the most recent one. You know, I went to uh Sri Rangam temple where Lord Vishnu is a preciding deity. It is in Tamil Nadu. Yeah. is one of the world's largest functioning temple and over there Lord Vishnu is seen in a sleeping or in you know in a reclining form and as a kid growing up I've always heard about uh the stories and there's a puja called as a vishwarupam dashanam okay it happens in the early mo
(06:21) rning at 5:30 a.m. And what happens in the during that time is um so night the god is put to sleep and morning he wakes up right and when he wakes up a actual elephant a white horse and a cow. >> So all these three animals are bought in front of the god. Okay. >> So I imagined this and then still I thought oh no how is it possible you know how can such a huge elephant and all these things come inside.
(06:47) I thought maybe somewhere far they'll stand and they'll just see or you know maybe it is all imaginary. So I went to the temple and I really wished I had this dashion and somehow I ended up you know last minute without me asking for it. The priest you know called me telling you know hey come you know I'll show you something in this temple which is you know truly unique and I was there you know 5:30 for the vishwarupdash and even now as I'm saying you know I get goosebumps.
(07:14) >> Me too. was like tell me more. >> Yeah. So I'm standing there uh inside you know just outside the garbagraha. I see a huge elephant that's coming. There's a priest sitting on the elephant with water on his head. He gets down over there. He takes a water inside and then I'm seeing the elephant is walking inside approaching you know towards us standing there and I'm just standing there this side diagonally the elephant comes and you know it stands.
(07:43) I'm like, "Okay, I've never stood so close to an elephant through my entire life." And then comes a white horse, like such a beautiful white horse. I'm I'm literally in between. So, here is a elephant, here is a horse, and then comes a beautiful cow. So, the cow comes and then stands exactly, you know, in front of Vishnu.
(08:04) And there's a curtain in front of, you know, God Vishnu. The curtain, they slightly open it. God Vishnu first sees the elephant, the horse and the cow. They immediately close a curtain, the uh the animals go out and after that is when you know human beings walk inside and take the dashion of God Vishnu. >> Wow. So interesting.
(08:26) >> So that one um episode or the one dashion what I had gave me so many different perspectives, gave me so many different thoughts about how beautiful it is. You know we think of God as God someone who's you know waiting there for you know we go there only for our prayers to ask something but if you just think about it more deeper you know he's just like us you know he's sleeping he's waking up in the morning there is a priest who's coming who's chanting slokas who's waking up there are these animals who are standing outside he
(09:00) first sees them and it's so beautiful it's not human beings right imagine even to this day as I'm speaking Every day this is happening in the temple for years altogether, thousands of years uninterrupted. So these are the experiences you know that I have and this is the most recent one.
(09:19) I think I can just go on because every temple over here is unique. >> Wow. So that was it's one I mean we we go to temples and you I think you are you were able to understand deeply what it means like the temple what is behind like the the the the the temples. Uh what is something that normally people get wrong about temples? >> So most people think that >> I like your smile.
(09:51) So most people think that uh temples came first you know they think that someone has gone you know kept a dity over there they made you know architecture temple around it and uh with the assumption that people will come and pray but that is not how temples are built. These are all energy centers.
(10:12) It is always the energy that comes first after that is you know a temple. So let me go a little deeper and explain you you know what I mean by these energies. So these energies are there everywhere on different points different you know centers across on the earth and our ancestors were extremely I would say intelligent enough to identify these energy centers and then you know understand go deep dive into it give place a dity put a face and then you know build a temple around it.
(10:46) When I speak about energies, u when you go to different places, you feel different. You when you go to certain temple, your mind refreshes. When you go to certain temple, your body heals. When you go to certain temple, you fully transform. These are what I mean by energies. Let me talk about um you know three distinct energies what I felt in my you know temple travel.
(11:12) One of them being in a small town in Tamil Nadu called as Tirukaru Tirukaru Vayor. Okay. So Karu means fetus. Ka means the one who protects and Uru means village. So what it means by that is the village that protects the womb, the fetus. Okay. And that temple over there is called as GBA temple. So I myself went to this temple standing outside you know the garbagraha and the energy what I felt over there was something that I can't explain to you even sitting over here it was something different you know something unique and I spoke to so many people
(11:52) over there who have come for various reasons you know to seek the blessings of the goddess and I did my research I met people I went back and I documented you know my video and I posted about did. You won't believe the responses, the comments, the DMs I've got, you know, about this temple. Someone sitting in US is telling me I suffered from pregnancy and finally I did this Gurbarak Shamikai mantra and then I conceived in two months.
(12:20) Someone is telling me I had miscarriage for two months. Uh two I had two miscarriages and my husband went to this temple. You get ghee and oil which you have to rub it on your stomach. So he bought that back. I put it on my stomach. I not only had a safe delivery but I had a healthy baby as well.
(12:39) Someone tells me you know during COVID I was low on oxygen. I was on ventilator and I ended up you know having a safe delivery just because of praying to this goddess. So that is the energy over there you know that protects the fetus and even now as I'm speaking to you someone is going there someone is seeking blessings someone is delivering a healthy baby someone is being protected you know and I'm not talking about these stories that has happened thousands of years ago these are happening now today you know as we are sitting and talking over here so this is
(13:10) one such energy and u then going to the second one you know uh that is a temple in Kerala called as a Chota Nikara Bhagabati temple. Now here the energy is for mental health. Now I'm not talking about the clinical mental health but here people who are suffering from something where you can't explain where you can't even talk someone where you feel that there's some kind of black magic I'm not able to you know get out of it or I'm sitting in a room I don't want to talk to anyone.
(13:43) So you visit that temple inside the temple complex uh Kirroao just few meters you know from the main temple complex there is a badali temple and over there there is a guruti puja that happens okay so this happens um after uh sunset little bit late night and what happens in that puja is there are 12 large vessels placed and in those large vessels you have lemon and turmeric water mixed which turns into blood red >> and that water is used to do the puja for the badali goddess and during that process all the people who are suffering with these you know mental illnesses
(14:19) come and stand front and it's a very different experience it's very raw very intense again something that you should experience I really can't tell you you know what you feel but one thing I can tell you is in my own eyes I've seen how people have entered over there and how they walk out completely different so it's a very intense puja and just next to the temple there's a huge tree okay and there are lot of nails that is there on the tree and I asked someone what do these represent so the priest told me that everyone who comes here has a
(14:54) darkness inside them >> so they hit the nail over there on the tree so you will see nails and dolls which have been hanging for 2 thousands of years even to this day like someone goes you put a doll or you put a nail over there it represents that you're leaving your darkness over there and you're walking out as a new person all clean.
(15:14) >> So it was something again you know very transformative kind of a place I can say. So the first temple was you know for protecting your womb that is the energy and the second place you know was for your mental wellness or you know mental well-being and uh the third one you know uh at thirupati near thupati shri kalahasti temple uh me and my husband you know we ourselves so everything what I speak or I do uh say to people is something that I experience first and only after that is you know what I share with people so we went to
(15:46) this temple lot of time people feel very stuck in life. No matter what you do, you're not able to get success like let's say you're working hard, you're not getting promotion, no matter what you do, you're not getting uh married, various other things or your land is not being sold in spite of everything comes till that point and there's something that is blocking you don't know what is that right and um our in our tradition from a planetary perspective there's something called as a Rahu and the Ketu so they are called as the shadow planets
(16:18) so usually when you have effect of these these shadow planets they say that your works your work stops for you know whatever reason it doesn't move ahead and that temple specifically prays or there does they do the puja for rahu and ketu >> for that energy over there so we sat along with all the 15200 people over there two small snakes are given one represents a rahu and the other one is a ketu okay you're given a red cloth a green cloth some grains so you have the priest sitting with the mic who's explaining you know the rituals that
(16:51) need to be performed and we're all doing that and we walk inside the temple. We take three rounds inside the main temple and we drop the snakes the silver snakes over there in the offering box. So you do that and you come out again you know it's a different feeling. Suddenly you feel some kind of calmness in your life.
(17:10) You feel that okay things are going to be you know things are going to fall in place. But while you go deeper while you speak to people over there you'll be amazed to know what kind of you know transformations people have just come there done the puja in next third day you know their problems have been solved the lands have been sold someone is getting married.
(17:28) >> Wow. >> So that is the energy of that particular place. So temples are nothing but you know all energy centers. >> Okay. So each temple has a certain energy that it's specific for certain conditions that we we we have. >> Wow, that is so interesting. How can you explain that? Like what is behind that? How do they um even build um those temples to be able to create such transformations in people it's unbelievable.
(18:01) >> So let me ask you actually you know you have traveled to India. I'm sure you've gone to you know few temples but there are certain places you feel very different right you go to one temple you feel different you go to one temple you sometimes you just don't feel anything you just go you see you come out >> all this happens you know there's lot of science attached to it in our tradition there's a process called as a prana pratraatishta process so what we mean by that is um enforcing life into a idol okay >> so first there is energy. Okay. Then
(18:35) after that you keep an idol over there. But after you keep an idol over there, >> you have to enforce life. You have to enforce energy into that idol over there. Right? Then it becomes a dity. So that process is called as a pranapraatishta process. So it's a very huge process. U it's very beautiful to understand what really happens in the pranapatraishta process.
(18:59) Lot of vic chanting, rituals, yagas, pujas, abishakamas. It's a very long process you know that happens >> and the idol is blindfolded during this entire process. Okay. And on the final day they remove the cloth from the idol's eyes. Now during this process when they remove the cloth you know from the idol's eyes a mirror is brought in front of the idol.
(19:25) Again the reason being during this entire process of the rituals and everything that is done before the energy over there is so intense that no human being can stand in front of the idol and take in that you know energy your naked eyes just cannot take it. So that is why they bring a mirror in front of the dates where the mirror has cracked immediately because of the power of the energy in that idol.
(19:56) >> Wow. >> Yeah. So that entire process is called pranapraatishta process and after that is when the devotees you know start taking blessings of um the dity. So the most recent one happened in Aayodhya the pranopatraishta process. So after that you know people go and take blessings. Now it doesn't just end over there after you know going and uh it's not like you keep the dity over there you put life but how do you ensure the energy is contained. It is amplified.
(20:27) It remains for thousands of years so that devotees keep coming keep taking keep absorbing that energy. Now for that we have all the Vic mantras, the chanting and all these rituals that happen day in and day out in a particular temple and that is what gives life to that particular place. >> Wow that is fascinating. >> Yeah.
(20:51) So just imagine you go to a 2,000-y old temple like let's take an example of Turupati Turumala. You go there you just feel wow. You are like everyone who goes there will have a different experience. You know when they come out you'll be like oh my god I wish I want to go there again. I want to see the god again.
(21:09) And that is because for so many years every day the rituals have been happening uninterruptedly. No matter covid, no matter lockdowns, no matter floods, rains, there are people who have kept this alive and the energy is still you know strongly contained. That is why when you go to these places you feel special and at the same time when you go to some place where none of these rituals are happening none of these practices are followed there's you know something is broken it's not wellmaintained you just go like a sightseeing place and you see and you
(21:41) come back you don't you know feel that instant connection >> so that is how beautiful these places are. >> Oh that is fascinating. So that's what you say. A lot of people get it wrong because they think, okay, they put a daty there and then they build a temple. No, it's it's the other way around. So first they they they see the the points of energy and and then they they build the temple they bring the dity and then what you say there needs to be a process to bring energy to to to the to the to the temple and most important to
(22:15) maintain that energy and that's all the rituals that happen so that the energy keeps keeps being renewed and people come and they can they can benefit from that energy. >> Yes. Wow. How do you know so many? That's so fascinating. I'm so love it. >> No, I still feel like I just know one person I'm just learning.
(22:37) But uh as an more you go deeper into this, you know, it's extremely beautiful. So this is just one part. Now going little bit more deeper when you go to these temples when you see on the walls there's lot of drawing. How many people actually look at these things and understand why are these here? What do these just mean? But there's so much meaning for each and everything that is there in a temple.
(22:58) Let me take a very classic example of Maharishi bringing. Okay. So when you go to few of the Shiva temples, if you notice, if you see deep, you will find a man who looks like a skeleton with three legs. >> But there are hardly anyone who stopped and who's actually seen like oh what does it mean? Why is it there over here? Why have our ancestors you know put this on a temple wall? So there's a very interesting story. Okay.
(23:22) So Maharishi Bringingi was a very uh big devotey of God Shiva and but he believed only in God Shiva not anybody else. Okay. So Mount Kailasa he used to only circumambulate around God Shiva that is he used to take praction around God Shiva and used to not even pray to goddess Parvati. So one day Parvati tells him that you know we both are one you cannot separate us.
(23:50) But Maharishi being uh Maharishi he you know doesn't listen to goddess Parvati. So goddess Parvati comes and then sits on Shiva's lap. So what does Maharishi bring you do? He becomes a small honeybee and then still goes around Shiva. Now looking at this Parvati was like okay they both become Ardaneshwar where it is half Shiva and half Parvati.
(24:13) So what does Maharashi bring then do? He tries to become like a small bee and he tries to make a hole in between them so that he passes through Shiva. So seeing that Parvati gets very angry. Goddess Parvati gets angry and she says that everything that comes from the divine mother from feminine deity is something that you are going to lose.
(24:36) So again as per our tradition what we know is um your blood and your muscles come from you know the feminine part and your um uh nerves you know and your sorry your blood and uh your body comes you know from the masculine part. So immediately he loses his muscles and everything and he becomes like a skeleton and he falls down.
(25:01) Now looking at this gosh Shiva feels very sad. He's like he's my you know whatever said and done he's my devotey right so he gives him another third leg just like a tripod so he can at least stand. So at that moment you know rishi realizes that shi shiva and shyi are one >> and if you remove shiy out of shiva it is shava. >> It is just like you know a skeleton.
(25:26) And that is a figuring which is there on temple. And what do our ancestors want to tell us looking at it that masculine and feminine both coexist together. It's a concept of duality. These both are extremely important. So you can't remove a man or you can't remove a woman. They both have to coexist together.
(25:45) And there is not one who superior over the other. You know both are equal. >> Such a wonderful concept which is just there you know on the temple wall. So it's not only when you go to these temples and you know just absorb you go and pray but these small things are trying to give you so many messages sometimes you are in a different situation you don't know what to decide but there is all these elements trying to you know pass on those stories to you through generations >> wow that is that is fascinating actually for and the um now I'm going to ask you
(26:17) the question that I'm most curious about which is um you are opening up a new world about okay the temple is much more than you just go there and you pray or you know it's there's much more there maybe you can help us to understand um the how it was designed all the elements that was designed you know and what are the impacts that have on us for example maybe you can tell us since the moment we enter the temple until the moment we leave what are the different uh design elements that were intentionally done and how does it impact us at
(27:01) spiritually, physically, mentally. >> Wow. So, I'm not uh I I wouldn't be an expert to talk about this because I'm still learning and architecturally I'm sure you know there would be multiple experts who would talk about from a design perspective why a temple is designed in certain way. >> Wait, no, don't don't worry.
(27:20) It's just for me for my interest. Don't worry. So you will help me. >> Yeah. But I can tell you from my own experience you know what I had the place where I come from you know Mangalore there is this beautiful temple called as Kadri Mangjaneshwara temple and the preciding dity over there is God Shiva. So it's a very unique temple where there is a goa where the water comes.
(27:41) Now Mangalore is at one end and Kashi is at another end of you know in the map if you see Mangalore is down Kashi is you know up in the north. So the water comes from Kashi that is what they say and every day till now the water has come continuously it has not stopped and no one even knows you know what is the source but it is a belief that you know the water comes directly from Kashi.
(28:04) Now up above the temple there are seven ponds. Okay. So in that seven ponds there is a process called as a ttasana. Okay. So what I mean by that is you go up you dip in all those seven pawns and then you come back over here near the god. So I myself again you know did this process of tasana where I first entered the first pawn it was little slippery I went slowly you know kept my leg just took a little dip second one again little more third one but by the time you reach the sixth seventh you just leave everything you freely enter inside
(28:38) you take a full dip because then you feel like you know okay you know what is life what am I scared about you know all these thoughts suddenly come into you just while you walk across those seven ponds and then You take a dip. After that you come in front of you know the god. Um you you know kneel down.
(28:56) The priest comes he gives a coconut in your hand. You hold it and the water that is used for abhish come for the god Shiva. The same water is poured on your head in the temple. So that moment you feel the closest to god. So all these things you know uh without your knowing they are making some kind of a transformation within yourself like from a scientific perspective if you see you will think that you can also think that you're dipping into these seven pawns the water which is so sacred and you're sitting standing in front of the god the same
(29:30) water which is used for god is poured on your head look at the amount of energy that is being infused into you >> and these are the kinds of transformations you know what happens when you are there in a temple And the experience what I had you know after that is again something that I can't you know really say in words but everyone who is in Mangalore before in any spacious beginning or before going to Shabari Mala Mala or somewhere you feel that you're feeling very negative you want to you know really come over
(29:58) your thoughts and feelings you go you take a dip in all those seven PS you go through this process again you know it's a completely transformative experience so everything that is there in a temple starting from why you hit a bell Consciously you are aligned when you enter a temple you know you go inside why do you always have to bend and see your god because that is where you let go of your ego right you know there is someone above you all the time so you're just bending and you're praying to god so all these small elements you know the
(30:28) more you dig deeper the more value you will find in this and you've been doing this without knowing the meaning of it but somewhere inside you know it's been impacting you in ways that you don't Oh, I I see. And what are things that people shouldn't do when they go to a temple? >> What are the things they shouldn't do? Uh I don't know, you know, frankly, because um I'll tell you, you know, I come from a spiritual family, but um I was the least spiritual person in my family.
(31:04) You won't believe it when I say that but I went to temples because my parents you know forced and took me to temples. They like always bribed me I'll buy you something or I went because I you know got excited you know to eat temple food and things like that. So I used to go just enjoy and you know come out.
(31:22) Uh so I wouldn't say there is anything as such you shouldn't do when you go to a temple. What I would definitely say is just be yourself. You know be alert when you go to temple. be physically, mentally present. Then it becomes very easy to absorb the energies. You know what is there over there in a temple. The minute your mind, your body, soul, all these things are not there, it becomes very difficult to get connected and take in those energies.
(31:48) But these are all powerful energies concentrated at these places. If you are mentally, physically aligned, you will absorb the energies and without your knowing, you know, you feel that, oh, I'm in manifested for this. It just happened. And you'll see those things happening in your life instantly. So those are the changes that you see that you know it'll happen instantly when you visit these temples.
(32:10) >> So what you say is that be fully present, be aware, pay attention also as you said like there's paintings that they give you messages you know so the more you are aware and open and present the more you can absorb that energy. That's what you said. >> Something that was very interesting you said is that oh but for me I go to a temple I'm spiritual.
(32:31) You never spoke about I'm religious you know who who are the the the temples for >> so temples are for everyone. I always say that deep down inside everyone is a temple boy or a temple girl because without your knowing these places are resolving something for you in a certain way. Sometimes you understand those but sometimes you really don't understand but without your knowing these places are making an impact for you.
(33:03) So I feel temples are much beyond any religion. It is for everyone you know someone who wants to awaken themselves, someone who wants to go beyond uh you know things like religion or I come from a certain sect or you know it's much beyond that when you go into these deeper things of what temple means what those figurines means what our ancestors are you know trying to tell us.
(33:26) Um now that you're asking me this question I get a very interesting story you know sorry always I get lot of stories on my mind about uh a demon called as Apasmara. So he was a demon of ego and ignorance. Okay so he caused lot of destruction. People were in chaos. There was lot of confusion. Relationships were breaking.
(33:49) There was a lot of fights happening. So all the rishies went running you know near God Shiva. I'm told you know this is not possible. You have to do something. We can't live with this demon you know who is uh where the ego and um ignorance is much above everything else. We cannot survive like this. And that is when Shiva takes the rope of you know he takes he becomes a nataraja the form the dancing form of god Shiva.
(34:16) And he beautifully calmly dances suppressing Apasmara below his leg. Now the instant question that comes on everyone's mind is why was a demon not killed? Because ignorance is something that cannot be completely removed. Knowledge will not have value. >> Right? Ignorance and knowledge both need to coexist together.
(34:38) But at the same time we need to understand that we as human beings we can't let go of our ego. We all are born with ego. We all are born with ignorance. But how we suppress these things and then live our life or dance about that is the value you know what is there in that um image of Shiva dancing as Natraa the small aposara below his feet which hardly people have observed you know below natra's feet.
(35:04) So that is where you know many people think I'm powerful this is me this is my world and I'm the most intelligent person. But this is not you. It is your ego that is talking right and the minute you understand your ego and ignorance and ensure they are in your control you're going to leave a very you know blissful life >> so these are those wonderful things you know that you learn when you go to a temple and when you see these things the messages that you get so I don't think it is restricted to any religion it is
(35:34) for all human beings to understand to consume and it is a way of life >> yeah that's that's what you say so it's not about religion temples are are very powerful places for human transformation. Right. That's that's that's yeah myself I feel um yeah I feel as as you say I go to different temples and I love the there's different energies uh but I never thought about a temple the way you are saying about the different energies but now when you you think about that it is true that I feel different energies when I go to
(36:10) different temples what is your advice for um people I mean sometimes people just go to a temple and maybe they don't pay attention to certain things or they're not fully present. What is your advice for people um to change a little bit the way when they go to a temple, how can they have a deeper experience? Maybe there's cert some certain things that we can do in order to to absorb more that energy.
(36:40) >> True. So at least you know from my experience what I've seen most of them think temples like a checklist. Oh, you know I've gone to 100 temples. I've gone to 50 temples, you know. Oh, I visited so many of them. But that is not how it should be. Even if you visit one temple and you have understood everything in depth, that is equal to visiting 100 temples for me. That is how it is.
(37:02) Because that is how we do our research, how we do our work. When we go to a temple, we actually stay there. We live around for almost you know one week, 15 days. We go, we speak to the priest, we speak to the people who are, you know, living over there. We speak to people who are coming to these temples for years altogether.
(37:20) We speak to people who have been doing the rituals, the families who have been sacrificed, you know, their normal life, who have been doing the rituals. Okay? Because my grandfather did it, my father did it, now I'm doing it. So you go to these places don't do it like a checklist you know even if you want visit one temple and be there for two full days and understand everything about the temple because it takes years and some temples have taken centuries to be built altogether it's not something that you can finish in half day or one day it's
(37:48) not a checklist item at all you go and you say hey look you know I finished visiting 10 temples but go visit one temple understand everything in depth and it is not only about the god understand about the people who have kept this alive for so many years. Thank them because of them. You are here witnessing this energy.
(38:07) They are the ones who have protected this for years you know. >> So keep all these things in mind and then automatically you know you will feel grateful for you know what you're seeing what you're receiving today. If your prayers are being answered when you go to a temple that is because through years there are lot of people who have worked so hard day in and day you know day in and out to protect that energy in a particular place to keep the rituals going. It's not a easy thing at all.
(38:33) >> Wow. To be honest this was I think one of my favorite parts that what you just mentioned it's beautiful. Yeah because a lot of times is I see sometimes people oh I have to go to this temple and that temple and that temple. It's not about, as you said, it's not about a checklist. Yes. >> It's about just be fully there and just be immersed and experience it fully.
(38:57) Not just as a checklist. Okay. I just came here and it's done. >> Wow. That changes a lot for for me the way I see a temple. Um, do you have any story from someone very interesting that you met that lives around the temple that that you said that there's many people that that they they stay around the temple and they they they leave they give their lives to maintain the temple and that energy.
(39:25) Do you have any an interesting story of someone that uh around this type temple? >> Uh I have lot of stories. Um it's all being captured in my book Vishnu. But uh let me tell you one thing which really touched my heart recently and uh you know I cried so much. I hope I don't cry now and I'm telling it to you. I'll control as much as possible.
(39:47) Uh but again you know as I'm researching for my book Vishnu I'm traveling to all the Vishnu temples. I'm spending lot of time meeting the people you know who have been associated with these temples who are doing the rituals. So the most recent one was at Shriangam temple and I met uh you know one of the person who's responsible for holding the god and dancing you know it's a ritual when the god comes out he performs you know a beautiful dance to welcome the god you know and that has been done through generations and he was a pilot who you
(40:16) know then left his job a fancy pilot job because now his father is no longer there he has to you know continue this ritual and he's happily doing it with no absolute no regrets whatsoever. You know, he's continuing to do that ritual. And one day, what happens is uh he has a son who is you know, 5 years old.
(40:35) When he was doing this uh uh you know uh ritual in the temple, it was a huge gathering with thousands of people. It was a Utsum time which means a yearly or let us say annual celebration where lot of people come and it's a huge celebration in the temple. And while he was just going to perform the dance, he gets to know that his son has fallen from the top to the bottom.
(40:57) And literally his half skull is out. Yeah. His wife is crying. He's already dressed up. He's having the god on his head. And uh Okay. So, okay. Give me just a minute. So in that moment uh he decides that uh no matter what I'm going to do by ritual. >> Oh my god. See I told you I'm going to cry. Yeah.
(41:37) So at that moment he decides that you know he's going to continue that ritual and uh it is his responsibility to take care of my son and uh he told me you know everyone over there everyone is crying because news spread fast over there you know everyone got to know this has happened to his son this wife, you know, took his son um to the hospital and uh he's performing over there and he is having tears, you know, roll down from his eyes and he in that position is actually not supposed to cry or show any kind of emotions because that is a very happy celebration for
(42:21) God. You know, you're dancing, you're welcoming him but um he said you know as a human being I could not control my emotions but at the same time you know I did not give up. I was dancing you know front of uh God and I told him you know it's your responsibility whatever it is it is in your hands I leave it up to you.
(42:42) So he finished that entire process and uh he rushes to the hospital. At that moment before that his wife doctor said that you know I cannot guarantee whether he'll be a normal kid or you know he could be a special kid because literally his skull is broken and you know by the time he comes back the operation is done and doctor said I don't know it's a miracle you know I never thought I could do this operation successfully.
(43:08) we will wait for 24 hours and see if he's going to respond. So they wait over there for 24 hours and um in 24 hours the boy wakes up he opens his eyes and he says you know daddy where are you and everyone over there we start saying that you know it is a miracle this is definitely you know beyond our understanding. So these are the things you know that uh go much beyond um our understanding.
(43:35) You know when you visit a temple you don't really know about these things right we just go we pray and we come but you don't know about these people who have been doing this the sacrifices they make to ensure that you know there is a continuity in all these process and this is just one you know u in my journey I've heard of many such things that I can't even you know put together in words uh but you know all I can say is I'm blessed that I'm getting to meet all these people and you know understand their journey and how they're keeping
(44:08) these rituals you know going for years and for centuries altogether by sacrificing so much. >> Wow that's that's a that's pure in terms of that's pure devotion right and that's like and that's they are the ones that carry you know so these temples for so many years and that people can go there and can benefit from it.
(44:30) >> Wow story. What are some of some temples that you can tell us and the different types of energies that they they have? Do you have can you share a couple of of them? >> Uh now there are different temples. Now there is a temple for uh if you're struggling hard to get conceived you know there's Garbarak Shamikai temple and similar to that there are many such temples which is only for pregnancy.
(44:58) There is hello Makalo Thai in Karnataka. So the many such temples you know for pregnancy or if you're difficult getting difficult to conceive. Then next thing is for especially for you know the mental illness you know when you're facing these problems again there are lot of these temples especially in Kerala and Karnataka which is specifically for that there are a lot of these guruti pujas that happens.
(45:20) So when you go when you witness there again it's very transformative specifically for you know mental illnesses. Again there are certain temples specifically for uh children who want to study >> who want right you want you as a parent you're very concerned about you know I hope everyone these days want their kid to be a you know 10 on 10 pointer but um there are saraspati temples you know which are specifically focused for children to you know go so usually when there are when they're five year or five to six years you know between that age
(45:51) they go there and they do their first writing in that Saraswati temple it could be uh you know shrink King, it could be Basara temple. So these are those temples which are specifically known for um uh children and you know their education. It's just that these were always there but we have never gone you know searching for it.
(46:11) We have always been limited to uh the typical checklist items. Oh you know I have to go to these jotur lingers. I have to go to the ship. But there's much more temples beyond all these things. >> Beautiful. And what is the one of the most uh mysterious temples that you have ever been? >> Uh I don't think uh mysterious would be the right word.
(46:36) Uh but I would say something u you know again where I experience something very different. So there is a temple uh in Paduidri. Okay. And it is >> where is it? >> Uh in Karnataka. >> In Karnataka. Yeah. It is called the Kgeshwari temple. And over there there is a ritual called as the kibbley ritual. Okay.
(46:55) So what happens in that ritual is uh there is a dance between the snake male snake god and the female snake god. It happens only once in two years and no matter which part of the world I am in I make sure that you know I am there attending that ritual. So I will definitely take you for that. It's going to happen next year.
(47:15) So you know I'll take you and uh it is a must visit for anyone to understand what spirituality really means. >> So it happens midnight. Okay. And you're sitting in the sand over there. Uh everything over there what is used for this ritual is completely made out of natural elements. Absolutely no phones allowed. No artificial lights allowed.
(47:37) The flowers everything is only made from natural elements. Nothing artificial is allowed. Okay. So you sit over there in sand. So no matter you're a president, you're a VVIP or a VIP or a commoner, everyone sits together on the sand and you see this ritual and before the sunrise happens everything is cleared off.
(47:57) So morning if you go there and see you will get you'll be surprised. Oh did the ritual happen over here last night there so many people thousands of people sitting here. But witnessing that ritual, seeing there, sitting over there, it's just you, the sand, the ritual that is happening. You see up, you're sitting, you know, in the open sky.
(48:16) Something inside you shifts. It makes you think what really spirituality is. Who really is God? God is nature, right? You respect nature. You take care of nature. Nature is going to take care of you in ways you have never thought before. And that is such a beautiful way of showing what really is God, what really is spirituality.
(48:39) >> And it's a very powerful ritual that happens you know in Paridi and one must really witness this. No matter how much I say there won't be any justice to it. But um even today something like this is happening is truly amazing and a treat to your eyes to you know be there and just soak in that uh you know energy >> and it happens for um >> it happens between February and March for 2 to 3 months.
(49:04) >> Oh I see. For two to three months. >> Yeah but it happens once in two years only. >> Oh I see. And when was the last time? >> Uh last to last year. >> Okay. So so next year. So next year. >> Okay. Wow. Beautiful. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And what about the Tupati? Like I I read there's like I think there's between 80 million to 100 million people visit that temple in a year.
(49:31) >> Yes. >> What is so special about it? >> Thupati is magical. I would say you know I've been going to Thupati uh since my childhood. It's like a family daty. So we go there you know almost every year sometimes two or three times in a year and even now if you ask me how does he look like I cannot explain you I don't remember how does he look like but that is the energy of that place it's completely u it's beautiful it's wonderful it's and not only when you're there standing inside the gbagraha to take the blessings of the god but the
(50:06) minute you keep your leg you know after going uh above those uh you know hills It is a feeling that uh the energy over there is something you know uncomparable to anything else. It's extraordinary. It is beautiful. One must only be there to experience it. I I always say that it's okay if you are not able to get dashan because it's very difficult.
(50:29) You know you have to plan months in advance. Just go there keep your leg you know outside the temple premises. Just soak in the vibes. Just soak in the energy. That itself is enough and see how you know miracles happen in your life. And I can vouch for that place that you go there and you see how your life will get transformed after visiting that place.
(50:48) >> Wow. >> It's extremely powerful place. >> So for people who really want to have a maybe help people who are thinking of going to to to the temple, what is the best way for them to plan to have the best experience possible? So you have to plan at least 3 months in advance. There is no last minute planning to go to this temple and everything is official.
(51:11) It's all uh listed on the temple website the dates you know when the tickets are open. So you just ensure you know which date you want to go and then you work 3 months in advance for your you know particular date. So you lock you keep an alarm that particular day you wake up and you do the bookings because just within seconds the tickets are all out.
(51:30) So you plan 3 months in advance and uh you know it's just a day you go you stay there for one night you take the dashan and then you come back but yeah you need at least 3 months of advanced planning to go there and take the blessings of wadeshwar swami >> in terms of energy like is this the the the temple where you feel has the the let's say the strongest energy I know there's they are different >> but which of the temples that you've been for you has the strongest energy um all these temples you know be it uh
(52:04) tirupati has amazing energy every time I go there I have tears in my eyes you know I sometimes go there and I I never for I always forget you know what do I even pray for I always stand there and I I come out I'm like oh god I didn't pray anything you know because you get so lost in that moment when you're keeping your leg over there you know it is so beautiful that I'm sure most of them will resonate to this that you actually end up you don't pray anything when you go over there but that journey itself you know is so beautiful and then I come
(52:35) out say oh god I went with 10 things in my hand I didn't ask for anything you know when I was there >> so that is one such place and kamaka is again another such place where I felt the energy was very intense and very raw and kamaka is where >> kamaka is in >> so yeah I recently went over there and again It's uh um it's very raw you know you go inside through the steps and uh you touch the water which is you know flowing continuously you keep your head over there and a very different feeling you know uh sometimes you end up crying
(53:12) sometimes you feel your body becomes very light sometimes you feel really charged up you know after going there so it's again a very different but very powerful energy I felt you know while going to kamaka then obviously we have the ujen mahakaleshwar temple So I witnessed the basarati intense powerful beautiful the beats of the drums when they're chanting the shlokas you know loudly over there thousands of people sitting you know chanting harah they being in that atmo
(53:45) sphere at 3:30 a.m. 2:30 a.m. you know in the morning and that force of you know Shiva is something unlike any other what you will ever witness. So these are you know just few things that are coming on top of my mind but uh again you know >> how do you feel when you when you talk about all these things. >> Oh somewhere I was giving corporate lectures and now I'm talking about temples >> but how does it feel for you? uh see it feels wonderful because uh frankly I'll tell you you know at least what I've seen in my journey is everyone goes to temples but people don't come out and
(54:22) openly talk about what they feel when they go to a temple and that is something I feel very sad about I feel like >> why do you don't discuss this openly in your office with your colleagues with your friends you know because >> what you go when you go to a temple what you feel something is very real you know the transformation that has happening is real.
(54:43) Your prayers that are being answered is real. So these energies are still there. Why don't you want to talk to someone and tell them about it because someone who sitting across you might be having some problem, might be looking for it and you never know that just because of you seeing it, it might be helping out you know the other person.
(55:01) So this is my message and my request to everyone who visits a temple. Please go proudly discuss with your friends with your family of what you experience when you go to a temple because of you. Even if there are one or two people who are you know having a change having an impact because of you know going to that temple I feel your life is you know you're having a purpose deeper purpose in your life.
(55:24) So always be proud about these places because they've been protected you know they have been protected through yours by so many people over there who have sacrificed you know so many different things. Why do you think uh people don't share their experiences when they go to temples? >> Somehow I think it's a mindset. People think that uh you know if I go to temple uh and I talk about it, people think that I'm superstitious, I'm maybe less educated.
(55:52) So these are the things you know uh at least what I understand when talking to people like why do you don't say or I don't want to judge anyone thinking that oh I'm going to a temple maybe you know he or she is very superstitious but that's not how it is you know when you go to a temple I feel that everyone goes to a temple it's very funny you know when I was also working in office everyone goes to a temple but nobody talks about it you know because you fear of being judged >> but no one is going to judge you.
(56:21) You will be surprised by the reactions that you are going to get the minute you open up and say, "Hey, I went to this temple. Hey, I did this puja. This is what happened in my life." You never know the answer that you're going to get from the opposite side. So just give it a try and see you know how you are going to transform people's lives.
(56:38) And that is why you know I've kept this name as temple girl because somewhere deep inside everyone is a temple girl and a temple boy. It's just that openly you don't want to you know discuss and talk about these things >> and and now what what do you what do you expect like from your new journey? What do you expect to to to to achieve or where are you going with this new journey? >> Frankly Rodrigo this was not in my plan you know even today >> maybe it was a bigger plan for you just didn't know.
(57:12) >> Maybe. >> Yeah. So every day is a surprise for me and uh sometimes you know I tell my husband you know after a long day of uh travel we walk 15 18,000 steps sometimes you know when we are going to these places to meet people to research and I come back and I tell him okay I'm tired next one week we are not going anywhere you know we are just taking rest and so many times it has happened you won't believe it I'm waking up in the morning I'm asking him oh okay so where are we going today >> is it True. Very much true. 6:00 a.m. in
(57:46) the morning. >> There are times I've woken him up in the morning saying that oh okay you know let's plan something let's go today let's pack our bags and go. So that's been the journey um so far and uh you know I'm very excited because I don't have a plan if you ask me I don't know what next two months 3 months down the line I absolutely have no idea but the only thing I have in my mind is you know I want our next generation to understand how lucky we are to be born in this country.
(58:20) How lucky we are that we have such strong roots. How lucky we are that we have such powerful places in our country where instantly you go for you know some problem instantly you go for you know something and it gets resolved you don't have to pay money you don't have to do anything just go sit there for some time soak in the energy and come back so I want these stories to continue I want our younger generation to be proud of their roots you know that definitely is a mission that I have in mind >> and for example especially parents
(58:52) parents, how can they bring that into their into their kids in a way that feels, you know, like they it feels natural for for their kids. >> Follow Temple Girl. So uh I think that is a gap that you know I'm trying to solve uh with my channel the temple girl you know because when it comes to spirituality when it comes to temple some at least for me I always found these things very complex and when someone explains sometimes just go above my head I should not understand anything so then I felt that you know these things have to be told in a very
(59:29) simplified manner especially in today's generation they need answers for everything and the minute you give them an answer. They are going to trust you. They're going to believe you. But they need explanation. They need to be told in a way that there is a meaning. There's value to something what you are telling.
(59:47) And that is a gap I'm trying to bridge. Like if you see all my videos, you know, these are all complex things that I'm trying to comprehend in a 2 minutes video. It's absolutely not easy. But I'm trying to do that so that parents who are you know seeing out there because I know as a parent you know it's very difficult for me to explain to my daughter when she asks few questions and then I go back I research and I try to tell her in the most simplest way possible.
(1:00:12) So that is a gap I'm trying to bridge and uh my stories you know what I tell over there are in the most easiest way possible so that parents can listen to this and uh tell them the lot of parents who listen to this and tell them to children as you know bedtime stories >> because our generation somewhere you know we were very busy between our career we have little bit of these values from our parents at the same time we are you know very busy we don't have time right so somewhere I hope that you know I'm trying to bridge that gap and
(1:00:41) bring these stories, you know, to the next generation. >> Beautiful. I love it. So, what is one truth that you would love everyone to know about temples? >> One truth um is that temples the energy is for real, right? People may question it, people may debate about it. These things cannot be explained.
(1:01:07) They cannot be logic put to it. It cannot be explained in black and white. But you go there, you experience it, come back to me and tell me that you know it is not in a certain way or this is impossible. I challenge you that you know the energies are real, the temples are real and everything has a deeper meaning to what we have.
(1:01:28) So it's not that you know these are all random constructions has no value and no meaning. Absolutely not. These energies are real and these places have lot of deeper meaning than you can even think about. M >> and I feel that no matter how much we research, how much we deep dive, this entire lifetime of ours is not enough to you know understand about this places >> and I I think a lot of a lot of people also have this debate about okay but if I'm not religious if I'm spiritual um um how can I also take advantage and of temples um so what is your advice for
(1:02:07) people to think okay if I'm not religious is then what do I do? >> I think it goes back to my answer on point one. You know there are certain centers which have certain energies that is why we end up you know going to a temple. >> Now if that energy is there everywhere the whole land would have been a temple.
(1:02:27) Whole land would have been you know a special land but that is not possible right? So these are those specific places and for you to experience those you have to go to that particular place and then experience those. Now I'm not saying you can always sit at home. You can always pray God. But at the same time over there also you're praying to some energy, right? You're praying to something somewhere in the air.
(1:02:49) The energy is still there. It is being trans you know the transmission is still happening for real. But if you want to really get connected then you have to go to this places. I'm not saying if you sit at home and pray answer prayers will not be answered. Obviously even that also works.
(1:03:05) But if you want to get that deeper connection then please visit to all these places and you will get you know answers to your questions maybe I may not be able to explain this is something that you know one can only feel when you go there. M so what you're saying is like it's not about like religion or spirituality anyone anyone can go to a temple and experience what you say their energy their faith whatever they want to achieve in their life or they want in their life what you say is like go there and be present and experience the energies that the temples
(1:03:38) have right >> true and uh you know in my entire uh what I am today as a person these values that you know have been instilled inside me. All this is not something that you know I have read or you know anything like that. It's been my journey on one side. At the same time you know I was very lucky enough that I have a guru in my life.
(1:03:59) So I always say that in today's world if you are able to find a guru you are the most blessed soul you know because then you get a direction your purpose becomes very easy because as someone to channelize your direction show you the right way especially when you're confused what to do you know which direction should I go. So in my life you know I feel I'm immensely blessed.
(1:04:19) I had a guru in my life you know to show me that direction especially you know when I was in states of confusion what to do. So he was the one who was giving me this clear direction. >> And who is your guru? Would you mind sharing? >> Yeah sure. you know uh so it's a temple in Mangalore Maraka Parashati Shetra Shri Shri Sri Narendra Nata Swami G um and it's a beautiful place you know one must visit over there because you understand the true essence of life what is spirituality you know uh when I went over there my guru you know I asked him
(1:04:56) that especially that was a juncture when you know I was very confused I had a very you know progressive career on one side and one side you know all these temples and all these things. He only told me one thing. What is important in your life? Food, shelter, clothing, right? And you have it. That's it. You know that one line gave me so much of clarity in my life.
(1:05:19) Like you know >> even today there are so many people who struggle for food, shelter, clothing, right? And if you are blessed with these three things, then you have a life of a purpose. Do something because of you. Even if there are five 10 people who are being benefited, I feel you know I can die peacefully thinking that >> wow living having goosebumps is what you said.
(1:05:42) Yeah >> I've lived a life of purpose because see ultimately we all are born we all are going to die one day but in that very last moment it's not I'm not going to take the money with me or the houses that I've built right but in that last moment I just want to close my eyes and think that have I lived a life of purpose.
(1:06:00) I think that is a question that we all need to answer within ourselves. You know, what is a purpose in my life? Have I made a difference? Have I made you know five people happy? Have I helped five people? And it's not it's much about you know I think that is what real spirituality is and that is what my guru has taught me and that is you know what I am today.
(1:06:20) >> Oh wow. Is there anything else that we need to talk about after this? There's nothing. >> Yeah, that's above. >> Wow. I was having goosebumps all over when you were mentioning that. Yeah. So for people who are in that junction, they they they feel a bit lost or um and they but they feel like there's some sense of purpose they are pursuing but they cannot see it.
(1:06:50) What is your advice for them? >> I I say just listen to your inner voice. You are not going to fail. if I have succeeded you know um I'll tell you one very funny thing Amazon my last day of job and everyone knew I was leaving my job for this maybe people were thinking inside this girl is crazy she's mad but there was one girl who came and literally showed the phone and said are you sure you're leaving your job for this and uh you know I held my head high and I said yes I'm sure I'm leaving my job for this although you know I did not
(1:07:23) have so many million followers absolutely nothing I didn't have a road plan ahead. What am I going to do? But still, I was confident enough. I told her yes, you know, I'm sure that I'm going to, you know, be happy with what I'm doing and I'm happy with this decision and, you know, see where I am today. I'm sitting and talking with you, you know, wonderful person.
(1:07:44) I never thought I would be sitting here and having this discussion. I never thought temples would take me to places. So, if temples, something like that, spirituality can take me to places. You know I feel that if you listen to your inner voice miracles are going to happen in your life but you have to take that chance without taking that chance without uh even trying out tomorrow don't sit and cry that you know oh wish you know hand and take a chance try if not anything you will just fail go back to you know what you were doing earlier but just
(1:08:13) give it a try it's one human life that we have if not now then when >> wow boss Now, nothing else to ask more. >> Yeah, >> we are done. Now, we're coming to the end. I mean, what a wonderful conversation. Um, I have only one last question. I would like you to take your time to think about it. Um, people ask you a lot of questions, but what is one question that people don't ask you, but you would love to answer? Oh,
(1:09:04) a question that people don't ask me but I would love to answer. Maybe you know um someone someone might think you know how is her roots so strong? How are our values so strong right? And uh I am today what I am is because of my roots because of my values what my parents have given me. Maybe you know forcefully they were taking me to temples.
(1:09:39) But all this time as a child I was growing up they were setting always setting the right examples for me and children always learn when they are seeing their parents not when they say you know hey do this or do that. You always have to set by example and I think my parents my family all the people around me have made me what I am today.
(1:10:01) So I've learned you know looking at all these people around me especially you know my dad and my uh my father and my mother they're extremely spiritual people you know they used to go to so many temples and I used to think oh my god you know they're crazy why they go to so many temples you know that is what I thought you know growing up but without my knowing you know going with them in this journey I learned what is to be grounded I learned what humility really means I learned what life really means you know all these things without my knowing because in this journey when
(1:10:31) I was with them I was only seeing them doing things and without my knowing my mind was absorbing and shaping me up as a person. So for all the parents out there especially the parents I would say always set an example to your children by doing things not by you know teaching them or telling them hey do this don't do that you do it your children are automatically you know going to follow you the little me my father maybe my father always knew that someday you know I'm going to become a spiritual person maybe at that point I was not
(1:11:05) today you know he must be there thinking yes I did some things right that is why my daughter is like this today so it's not going to go anywhere you know the roots are always going to be very strong so I think that is something I would definitely say to all the parents you know out there teach them young >> that was wonderful thank you so much I'm so happy that we had this conversation and I'm um yeah I just yeah my what I have to to tell you is I just keep going It's beautiful what you're saying, what you are doing. It's important and uh
(1:11:43) yeah it's that's I think that's something really big that you are really and yeah thank you for coming.