Monday, May 11, 2026

👉How a SCIENTIST Healed Without Medicines | Dr. Malleswari Gelli Podcast | EP - 09

👉How a SCIENTIST Healed Without Medicines | Dr. Malleswari Gelli Podcast | EP - 09

Author Name:Atlanta Pyramid Meditation Academy

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Transcript:
(00:01) for 10 years all the time carrying the medicine a lot of intake of medicines stopped I was also helped my daughter coming out of her aa issue >> how we are able to achieve this kind of miraculous events >> I was able to heal myself couple of chronic health situations >> this is so intriguing how exactly this physical issues can be healed >> I did not change anything else in my life except cept just by observing the breath.
(00:32) >> Why exactly we need to do just the observation of breath not chanting not mantra? >> I have done an experiment on this is a very simplest process. >> How exactly this helps in our spiritual growth? >> Very first thing is ego would go labeling would go getting myself like layer by layer I'm peeling off. >> Now you are a scientist.
(00:52) How do you bridge between the spirituality and the science? >> There is nothing rocket science here. The spirituality and meditation how do you differentiate them? >> Meditation is a process how you do spirituality meaning like understanding yourself holistically. >> What vision that you have for the USA chapter? >> It's 144 days meditation.
(01:14) >> When the kids were able to understand meditation and spirituality then I think you are going to change the entire generation. >> I have done four overnight meditations. and how exactly it impacts in your life or in your mindset. >> Family things, office work, collectively helping me very balanced, meaningful living, >> the meditation world that everyone is thronging for.
(01:36) How do you actually see this? >> Wow. Goosebumps beautiful world >> like what sort of experiments that you have done on this. >> This is really need of the hour. Hello, welcome to Atlanta Pyramid Meditation Academy. This is Arun Naradam from Atlanta. And today we have a special guest from a different state called Iowa.
(02:07) And she's a wonderful master. She is a symbol of oneness I would say all the time. And she had a beautiful experiences all through this journey. Let's listen from her, understand from her what exactly motivated her to do all these kind of services in this PSS movement and as a platform. She is none other than Maleshwari and she's from Iowa.
(02:27) She's maintaining all the PSS and driven activities in Iowa state. So welcome Malishwar G. >> Thank you Arun. Thanks for this. >> How's it going? >> Super fantastic. So first of all, thank you so much for being uh here in Atlanta and also you have experienced Atlanta pyramid meditation and we are so excited to have you your presence because how I see this Atlanta pyramid meditation academy is as we get more grand masters into this Atlanta pyramid this land will get energized with your presence.
(03:03) Your presence is very important for us because every master carries some different wbe and we wanted to have all the wibes from different masters and get this beautiful Atlanta pyramid shape itself. Thank you so much for doing that. >> So likewise, so thanks for the great opportunity and uh it was my pleasure to visit Atlanta Pyramid Land and Atlanta Pyramid Meditation Academy team.
(03:31) I feel like I'm I came to home >> meeting my soul family. >> Thank you so much for uh sharing that information. So first of all let me actually understand and also to our viewers that how exactly meditation happened to you? What made you to go for meditation path? >> So just naturally transitioned meditation into my life.
(03:56) I wasn't longing for or I wasn't craving or looking for anything. It just naturally happened during co time. Since then, the day when I started meditation, it's been 6 years. So I never missed a day without meditating. So it was like um maybe my soul was longing. It just connected me and from that moment I never missed it a day as much as I remember.
(04:25) >> So how would be your schedule in taking this meditation in your life? like how many hours of meditation that you do, how you do your schedule because most of the people when they are like starting this meditation journey, they kind of skip some days. >> Mhm. >> So what exactly made you to choose your schedule and how do you actually fit meditation in your daily life? So initially when I started like um 40 minutes morning and um evening another 40 minutes after completing the household things and a job and taking
(04:57) care of little ones over the period of time it became my second nature like whenever I feel uh now I'm at a state where like u my body and mind intellect whatever it may be it drives me say like oh this this is a time to meditate. So irrespective of uh a particular time either in the morning or afternoon or night.
(05:22) So whenever I feel so I just pass what I'm doing and I just meditate that could be 5 minute that could be an hour that could be 3 hours 6 hours. So it it varies from day to day. So according to my daytoday life so I fit meditation. >> Wow. So let me actually go a step back. Mhm. >> And share us your childhood experiences like how exactly your childhood uh is and what kind of environment that you grew up.
(05:53) >> So lately like since I am implementing gratitude in a day-to-day life, I was recollecting the memories of my childhood where I was born and what kind of environment was it was. I was a third child, youngest child in the family and uh I was raised like a lot of abundance. Many many people would be coming to my our home and uh my mom will be cooking and feeding them irrespective of the day uh like what time of the day she doesn't mind.
(06:28) So uh at least like 30 40 people would be dining in our home every day. So and many other people would be coming and helping her. So all the time my house was full of grains. My father was a farmer and we do have cattle. So a plenty of um abundance I have seen when I was growing up. >> And when did you get married and how was your marriage happened? >> So now again being a part of gratitude I was recollecting the memories of how I met my spouse.
(07:01) Um he was my classmate so we studied together. So we were friends in the beginning and uh the relationship grew up naturally and uh we weren't like uh there was not not one person question of how could we inform parents nothing it just naturally flowed into our life and we became partners and lately we get to know that we have traveled together so many lives.
(07:24) >> Wow. So are you aware of this thing before the meditation itself or meditation actually made you to to be like more realization on yourself and like how this happened everything? So the meditation all happened after like our studies. Kids were born. We both did PhD in agriculture and we both became scientists.
(07:50) Like once the physical part of the life is set then the meditation had come into our life to reflect on what had been happening in our lives to get to see like how easy our flow h was happening within our life. So meditation is helping us to connect the dots back. >> Yeah, that's that's isn't uh isn't a great thing that you already knew that whatever happened is so perfect and you just realize that it is it happened.
(08:18) >> Yeah, it is all like purpose aligning to the purpose uh understanding more of this soul journey. It's so beautiful how things have happened in the life so far. >> Yeah. So tell me a few things about what actually made you so passionate to teach meditation to each and every corner. I know that you are so passionate that even like when we started this mega meditation summit I saw you came all the way from Iowa to Dallas it's it's a long journey isn't it like many I mean most of us >> feel like to fly >> but you chose to drive
(08:58) >> and first of all even what made you to attend mega meditation summit in Dallas in 2023 >> so I have when I started the meditation journey I was alone in Iowa uh and I introduced meditation to my kids, my husband and my extended family. So this was all my experimental phase from 2020 to 2022.
(09:23) I was able to heal myself couple of chronic health situations. Uh and I was also helped my daughter coming out of her ama issue. So I have seen I have experimented the pyramid energy whatever the wisdom I am seeing through PMC and listening like PMC Telugu meditators experiences those two years I can say it's my solitude experimenting and understanding what the meditation can bring in a an individual life and a family life and I wanted to have like understand are there any other like-minded people across because this is a movement.
(10:04) Movement means it's not localized. So I had that urge, inner urge to go and meet my um soul friends. So that's what it motivated me to drive all the way from Iowa to uh Dallas. It was a memorable and a lifetime memory. >> So tell us like you just said that you had some physical healing within yourself, right? like asa and some other physical issues.
(10:33) Can you please briefly explain more about it like how it happened? >> Yeah. So I have come from India uh for doing my PhD here. So during the PhD time I was carrying pregnancies, two pregnancies. I had two C-sections. After a while like I had developed chronic uh seasonal allergies. So where all the summer months I am in a state where the winter is harsh where only the summer few months are the ones where we exposed to the nature but those are the months it was hard for me that I couldn't uh breathe um there was a lot of sand I feel in my eyes my my nasal is
(11:16) blocked for 10 years from 2013 to 2022 2021 I visited like so many allergy specialists I got poked so many of those allergy tests. So every season they would say that this species is changed. So we are changing meds. So I've been all the time carrying the medicines. So after I get to know about the meditation after listening to PMC meditation experiences I have seen from headache to cancer situations where people had come out just by observing their own breath.
(11:53) um that it gave me a motivation to experiment on myself. uh soon after in couple months I was able to like uh feel the change what my cells are uh uh absorbing how they are taking in cosmic energy what's happening within at my cellular level once I have seen that in months since 2022 up until now I don't need to take any medicine no allergy specialist it's like one thing is like a lot of intake of medicines is stopped and also the financially also it's helping me.
(12:34) So that said it is possible for any particular person can come out of there any health situations because we create our own reality at a cellular level we can talk and we can transform. So that's uh being a scientist cuz that gave me a firsthand evidence my own personal evidence to trust this process. This is so intriguing and I wanted to understand how exactly this physical issues can be healed because like all we understand so far is if you have any physical issues you must need to do some exercises and some people say you have
(13:14) to have some good diet and you should be having some following some schedule in your daily life to attain proper physical health right how exactly meditation like without having any food issues without having any sort of physical physical exercises, how simply sitting alone just doing nothing and just observing or breath or something right like how exactly this can heal your life.
(13:39) Can you please elaborate on this topic? >> Yeah. So the very first thing I have heard um break the routine. So then I started implementing that whatever the wisdom I see I started implementing in my life. So breaking the routine or breaking my own understanding or the previous um set of things which I like fed into my mind.
(14:03) I try to understand what type of things I fed because this season doesn't suit to me because uh and so and so species of particular plant doesn't suits to me. So instead I was switching because the universe mother nature is is suitable for everyone. So breaking the routine and I did not change anything else in my life except introducing meditation to myself.
(14:32) Um what the changes I have seen is before doing the meditation there was always a thin layer of fear insecurity about the job about the career about visas whatever those are the things. So once I started doing meditation I bring myself to true to myself like come back to my core then that thin layer of things were vanished and then at the at the cellular level I started seeing I have seen the spiritual reality video that is my bhagat Gita or the core to to being in the science aspect.
(15:18) cuz that video uh it explained me step by step what happens when I sit in meditation when I have thoughts what happens when I don't have thoughts how I'm consuming the cosmic energy in the awareness state what happens when the cosmic energy is flowing into my body how my neurons were cleansing so I have seen the video and then I started observing within me so breath to breath so without my awareness never had a breath.
(15:51) That kind of curiosity I had built when I was experimenting on myself. So tell me something about um how the breath observation should happen because like there's many people have different ideas or concept of meditation like why exactly we need to do just the observation of breath not chanting not mantra or some people say you need to visualize.
(16:17) So how exactly observing the breath is different from all these activities in meditation? >> So I have done an experiment on this while I was introducing into meditation because how I come to know this is a very simplest process. Before getting into meditation, I was in the process of chanting. While I'm teaching kids, I was also in the chanting way.
(16:38) Over the period of time, I realized that all those things were external outside of me and also I'm spending the energy. I need to like while I'm chanting, I need to spend some energy even for mantra, nama, japar, whatever these processes. And then soon after I realized is observing my own prana, my own breath, it is within me.
(17:03) Whatever the activity I'm doing, it is within me. Even when I am observing, it is within me. It is like 24 by7 it was there within me internally. And once I slowly started observing whether do I need the pranayyama, the deep breathing or inhalation. So that also exhaustive after a while. It helps in the initial phases to come into the calm state but eventually I felt very easy and the longer I'm able to do is just observing my own normal natural simple breath.
(17:39) >> Okay. So now that if you want to do long over of meditation or longevity on on your meditation process then make this process simple. >> Yep. >> Okay. So uh tell us like what exactly motivated you? I know that you've been doing long drives to reach all these different places. So what exactly the reason behind having this long drives? I heard that you have some specific reason in doing these drives.
(18:08) Can you please explain on that? Once I started reading sithanam untold story of sitha book it's like we are in the modern life reg daytoday life we are away from the mother nature and thanks to my spouse and children to support this thought. So we take the time off to travel by road and then we get to see connect to the more mother nature and especially we stop river banks like where the river connects two states together.
(18:45) We meditate, send our love, gratitude the water whichever is flowing through because our life is also naturally would flow through that and um different hill stations like the mineral kingdom, plant kingdom and the plant kingdom. These are varying. If we keep observing stateto state the nature of the soil is different. being an agriculture scientist.
(19:09) So the texture and the soil is different. The plants are different. Each season everyone grow is different cuz all the Midwest is like corn, soybean whereas other states would be growing different. So we we started exploring those and enjoying and we set some time like a yearly certain weeks to go by road irrespective of how much distance it is and uh sometimes we even love to uh sleep in the on the back side of our um um van.
(19:42) >> So that it is like to live minimal how Sithama and Shri Ram um they have lived the simplest life. So we wanted to experience it and also give that experience to kids. So at the very minimal how can we live and then those extra bucks we could contribute to the universal work. So that is our motivation.
(20:07) So now that I have one beautiful question for you since you came from a agriculture background and you being a scientist, I would like to ask one simple question that did you do any experiments on your agriculture side like maintaining some plants with your uh spiritual mindset or you know like giving a thought form to it or meditation or pyramids like what sort of experiments that you have done on this? >> It's a wonderful question Arun.
(20:33) I had an urge like what growing up being in the farming family I used to go to farms with my dad the way of farming had been transformed even when I was listening to my grandparents from my grandparents to parents time there is a little bit change from my parents' generation to now my brothers are farming so I'm seeing a lot of change like where um we are being away from the nature natural resources of the Mother earth we are relying on the external resources like fertilizers, pesticides all that we are moving away the way how my parents were
(21:12) farming is like they they pray the mother earth when they are started seedling. So those things were all gone. So we are being moved away from the how we grow our food. So coming back to being a scientist, I was having always an urge like how can we go back to the mother nature when we are growing up our daily essentials cuz keeping the large scale farming aside.
(21:45) So I have started uh understanding and experimenting that how when I was doing like a bachelor degree. So there was a professor who who tells me that the plants would speak to you when you walk in the farm. So that time it was like uh uh I did not deeply understood what that means. But once I started doing meditation and have started reading the unto untold story of sitha and there was a a shift within me like I'm more connected to the nature.
(22:18) So where I started interacting with plants keeping a way that whether I can understand plants language that is a different thing. So I started communicating like growing plants in the pots seeing like when I'm adding water like uh I started experimenting on water the pyramidized energized water giving them to the little plants.
(22:43) So how are they growing without regular water versus this water? And when I talk to the plants, uh when I talk to the birds, so after I I'm connected to the nature, I do see like a lot of wide variety of birds come to my deck every time. So I feel they are interactive with me like I get some inner collar sense that I need to go and fill the the grain for birds.
(23:10) By the time I come back and see obviously there would be no grain left. And uh when I fill as soon as I fill that the lot of birds come to the deck. Similarly the plants I see like the more love and care I'm giving. I'm not adding any external nutrients the the regular nutrients what we could provide not relying on so much of the chemicals or the fertilizers how the plants can grow with our love, compassion, communication.
(23:40) So I have seen and I have done some experiments um and also I have shared this couple of my friends. So one friend have shared that they have traveled to India. She kept pyramid she felt like okay by the time she come back that plant made would die. But since she heard of this concept she put a pyramid on top of that. After 5 weeks she has returned back to us.
(24:05) She was surprised because every year she was replanting that >> she has to bring new plant and replant. But this time without her presence without water like she kept outside but the nature is giving whatever the essential nutrients or essential water the natural resources that plant was needed.
(24:27) So these are all the things have given me enough confidence. So now why don't we introduce or spread a word and encourage other meditators to keep plants or the pyramids in their backyards and communicate lovingly with the plants and give some pyramid energized water. So to see what kind of the food the quality the texture what that natural things would in return give you because the love and care what we are offering to the plants it would give you the fruits.
(25:01) So the produce >> um thing is now you are a scientist >> right like you always go with the science whatever the science says you'll be using it but how exactly this experiment the idea of being a spiritual enthusiast how you actually blend this knowledge to your science so how do you actually connect this bridge between I mean how do you bridge this between the spirituality and the science >> so irrespective of who we are or what we do by profession or who we are in the core how it is uh there is nothing rocket science here daytoday life a
(25:38) common manner a common person if we are able to apply those little simple tools principles and uh implementing that gives that inner joy and the true connectivity so in return we get to um see the value of it science isn't very far from us. It is just the application theoretically knowing things and also applying it and seeing your firsthand information that gives a strong solid evidence for you in order to even like share it with others.
(26:17) So that is the core way I start um implementing any of these things. >> Yeah. So before we reject anything, we have to experiment. Yeah. >> Yeah. So experiment is what we need and the scientist does that. >> Yeah. Thank you for sharing this wonderful knowledge. I think we have to everyone try in their backyards to have some pyramids, set some knowledge, set some uh positive mindset and give some positive thoughts to the plants and then let it let it do the rest of the things.
(26:46) >> It's amazing amazing to see this. >> Now tell me like uh how in Iowa you have I think four four months of snow I guess. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. 4 months into some snow and you have only eight months to you know like go outside and all like how are you actually spreading this knowledge of meditation you know like spreading the knowledge of books and everything how what what what actually makes you so motivated to take this knowledge to every nook and corner within IOA >> yeah so we have like a half of the year so it will be like odd months um half of
(27:22) the year is like again that's a bliss we can day because as we have seasons the spring, summer and the other season that the winter time is like it's a gift for us to travel within as much as possible the renunciation self renunciation self-practice previously like before I get into meditation I was feeling that since coming all the way from India uh exposing to that harsh weather feel like why am I here it's been challenging because I I have physical disability too and my husband would be working in a different state. I myself with kids. Uh
(28:03) it was so challenging for me to like clean the cars and take kids to the daycarees and again going to work and making all the things and also I have another two kids of my nephew and niece with me. Managing those four kids in that odd weather I felt like um why am I here? There were like a number of states where it's a beautiful weather over there throughout the season.
(28:28) But once the meditation is introduced to me, I started feeling that as a gift accepting the mother nature as is. So there is a reason for those couple months to self-reflect on you and over the period of time even we're not caring much whatever is coming. So we we conduct the group meditations during the winter the cozy months.
(28:55) >> That is the time where we attract kids, we attract teenagers, we attract the families. So let us because we cannot do outdoor things. So why don't we spend together in the house in the cozy place where we can provide the warm hot food and um uh spend together. So instead of feeling that as a um a challenge in the weather so we are taking it as a bliss to self-reflect and self-connect and during the spring it's a beautiful spring the very first um rains in a within one single rain we see beautiful greenery I have never come across in any
(29:38) of the other states because we have been traveling right it is such such a beautiful greenery. It would come in a day of rain. So then I started understanding the beauty in the nature is nobody else is giving that external force. Right. The plants themselves are adopting. So as a human beings, how come we we can't adopt? >> Yeah. Right.
(30:04) Absolutely wonderful saying. So let me shift the gears here. M >> uh tell us what exactly you understood about the PSS moment. What is PSS moment for you? So when I started meditation I have connected more towards the process how a layman who is not educated a daily wage worker who is not educated or who doesn't have a resources or who doesn't have a team to get along and do practice of sadhana.
(30:40) So that is my core of connecting to um this movement. Then I started exploring what is this PMC? What is the PSSM? Who is the person introducing this? So I connecting the dots back seeing like who's that pillar? What is the motivation of this particular organization or this particular movement? So what connected me um is like the movement.
(31:11) It is not an individual organization. It it spreads movement is it moves from one place to the other place. And another beautiful thing is autonomous like the if I wanted to start in Iowa, I don't have any restriction to go and I don't need to ask like a letters of permission to start in Iowa. I have such a freedom cuz I trust the process.
(31:38) I have my firsthand experience. What I speak is the truth. I started speaking only my experimentation, my understanding. So the very first thing it connected me is once you started doing meditation, you don't need to have like certain graduation levels in order for you to teach meditation to others. The day I started meditation, I understood like how to sit, how to observe my breath.
(32:04) So I got the eligibility to tell this to others. So these are the couple simple things attracted me. >> Now that um this PSS movement has grown in such a way that most of the folks now were able to understand what is this PSS moment. Now tell us what vision that you have for the USA chapter and particularly for Iowa since you are from Iowa state.
(32:30) So do you have any vision that you wanted to hey now that I understand PS movement now I want to take this forward. So what are kind of ideas that you have or vision you have for this? >> So I started observing I keep asking this question to me cuz this process is keep evolving year by year. So every mega meditation summit is a transformation for me because when I go and meet my soul family or soul friends with whoever gathers together every year it's a kind of inner joy and after going back fortunately it would be again winter months. So that longer hours of
(33:07) meditation sadena it would give another it would open another chapter another uh way of taking this movement forward in Iowa. So I don't say that I have like this big of a vision I go like as it flows in. So for us as much as I'm responsible in Iowa, we are also responsible being connected with across the masters across USA get to know each other what is happening in other states where possible we leverage those uh processes or the opportunities what are all the other ways we can go and uh introduce this meditation where possible that could be
(33:52) libraries that could be schools that could be anything. It is like a kind of we are learning from each other and in the technology space we are helping each other where it is essential we are being responsible to take this initiative spread across all 50 states of yours at the same time come back and connect to the core and be an organizer be a leader or um be a master to yourself and make people next to you as a masters.
(34:22) >> Yes. So this is the two roles we'll be playing. >> Yeah. >> So be a leader at your place and be there to learn from be open to learn and to contribute across the nation. >> Yeah. >> That is how uh I take in. >> Yeah. So now um you know every mega material summit I see that you playing an active role.
(34:46) So what is the motivation behind mega meditation summit and how this mega meditation the idea of mega meditation is helping the PSS movement? So this is a wonderful um gift I can say until I attended first mega meditation summit in US we were longing the 11 days what happens in India Dhan Mahayagam so we were watching it through PMC and we half of our heart is pulled over there but it isn't possible for every year to go because the kids are growing up your own household things family things your work your kids things. So having this
(35:23) kind of things in us that's a big gift personally to me I felt cuz I was very fortunate to be part from the first mega meditation summit. So what I feel is like we are all going from host we are all going back to homes. >> So that's what we feel those 3 days it's joy. So I don't plan anything that I have to be here I'm connected here there I just go in there and wherever there is an opportunity for me to be part of so I just jump in it could be a registration that could be any any other place where I can be part of and enjoy that moment
(36:05) working and um um meeting new meditators meeting like our own known meditators it's a kind of celebration those three is >> so te tell us uh what would be the good qualities or the best qualities that we must have in order to do any sort of volunteer work. Just give us some uh guidance on how a volunteer should look like.
(36:34) So wherever I go first I observe I learn um and to the extent whatever is possible for me I encourage myself to be part of um at the same time I encourage my kids my spouse uh everybody to be part of where they are comfortable. One year you give a try here the other year you can give a try here. So it is all like a common sense observe myself and whatever the to the extent of my physical ability or where I'm able to fit in I just go and gel in there is no particular plan something um I I have so I I just go just add on enjoy >> have one thronging of asking this
(37:16) question is um you know like the how I see any event or the leadership is the moment you bring everyone together and make them work, it happens. The event happens. But the success for me is all the volunteers who worked with you should be again coming back to you for the next event. >> Mhm. >> With the same joy.
(37:47) >> Mhm. If you are able to bring that joy or uh you know like thronging like yeah I want to work with you again. I wanted to enjoy that bliss state again with you. So if we're able to get get that peace in the team then I think every event is a success for me. So to get that uh teams growing in a in a positive in a joyful way without having any complaints or you know any kind of retro how we can achieve this kind of team uh abilities like what kind of leadership skills that we need to have to maintain this you
(38:24) know this persona or this kind of ambiance I would say. So how do we achieve this? So at least like in Iowa um so it is a small team where I started by myself now it is slowly we are expanding and taking. So I go with one event at a time like uh we encourage and we get to know. So what I started realizing is irrespective of how much I we plan that it has to go A B C D only this way by the time when the event happens it just event itself has its own planning its own way of execution.
(39:05) So it is like after that event is done I detach from that event for a while and then started learning what could we add on. It is a kind of iterative process learning process. So in a smaller states or in a smaller programs the things are different. When we do like a mega meditation summits in the larger scale so the things are different.
(39:30) So when it comes to the the larger scale it is like we feel like everyone take their own responsibility it's my event wherever I can able to be part of it with Tanandhan. So it is like that is the first piece has to be built within each meditator or each volunteer whatever it is. So the organizer is one side where they say like you have like defined job description but what I have seen attending many of these meditation events we will not have any defined job description we don't have like you need to do this one this one this one as a volunteer
(40:11) whoever comes just see the gaps fill in that could be like laying the tables or uh taking out the trash keeping a chair if needed they take a mic. So any of those things we are learning we are evolving there. >> So now uh te tell me how exactly this helps in our spiritual growth. >> The very first thing is ego would go labeling would go hey I'm a doctorate I'm a scientist I can do only certain these type of task or only I need to be visible.
(40:49) So as much as I'm understanding myself coming to the core who am I even without having all these labels so what am I here for so we are all the same so not necessarily I need to be in the front line all the time so I should be able to ready for any any of those things so year by year program by program I am learning and as much as I enjoy being in the front line, I'm enjoying in the behind the scenes.
(41:20) >> So that is when I my spiritual growth is more evolving and getting myself like layer by layer I'm peeling off. >> What exactly is the difference between the spirituality and meditation? How do you differentiate them? >> It is it is a blend. Meditation is a process how you do the spirituality meaning like understanding yourself holistically my physical aspect my mental aspect emotional aspect and then who is there within within me.
(41:59) So when I remove all these layers peel off who am I before this life am I exist. So once I started understanding doing meditation I understand the whole essence of Bhagavad Gita. So what Krishna Paramatma is saying or what are all our scriptures have been telling us so far. So there is something within if I started removing okay I'm a doctorate I'm a scientist I'm a women I'm a mom I am all these things once I started keeping one by one away who am I in the core.
(42:33) So, so then I started understanding the spirituality is understanding the holistically. >> Yeah. >> I I know that you have a good kids and they are always very passionate about doing the service and I see many of our pyramid masters like who are into the spirituality understand the service and everything.
(42:59) But how exactly you are able to bring your kids into the service level as they are competing with all the senior masters in doing the service. How did you achieve this? Not just you and also the Angeli madam like you as a family the entire family. I don't see you separate from Anjeli Masters kids. So how exactly you were able to achieve this getting the teenagers on the front line working and doing the service and competing? I mean I would say like really competing with all the senior masters doing same sort of service.
(43:30) How did you achieve this? What is the secret behind this? >> First of all we shall give a big thanks to all these four kids. So Nandini, AJ, Pavi, Sakit. So they are in though they are in the different states they have grown up together. So since the beginning wherever we go we take them with us.
(43:52) So whatever the things we do they started seeing observing. So we are one thing I'm fortunate that uh being alone having this physical challenge the four kids though they were little from 4 year old to 8year-old I was having myself uh one adult with four little children for a couple years. So they started helping with me. So we are interacting I become a child.
(44:16) So we we work together as a team. It could be household thing. It could be a temple taking some service in the temple whatever it is. So they have started seeing. So what I feel is they learn by seeing us. They they closely observe us. They are mirrors mirror image of what I what I do like they are the ones who correct me.
(44:42) They are the ones who uplift me. So I am learning from them. I can say more towards than I'm teaching them >> I'm learning them because Sakit he gives me lot of suggestions >> amma we can do this program we can organize here or this is how we can go so I asked these kids one fortunate thing is initially I don't have a team in Iowa so I I was talking to myself at the same time I was discussing with the kids so they were giving these suggestions tips so that's So we are growing together.
(45:18) I'm learning from them fortunately. >> Yeah. So tell us your vision for IA. I mean you have done lot of events there. So what are the upcoming events happening in IOA and how are you planning them and with the limitations that we have already. So how we are able to achieve these kind of miraculous events with some simple set of small team? What kind of mindset that you have? >> So I have very open mindset.
(45:43) I keep myself open all the time. So every year the things were evolving as I said like after coming from Mega meditation summits so there will be another window opens up with me. So next level of programs would happen. So this year somehow my heart is pulling towards kids teenagers youth. Um so we are fortunate thank you Nandini for uh starting um kids 144 days meditation.
(46:14) So it was it gave me immense joy. It was led by kids for kids. So there is no interference of the adults. So no none of us are saying them certain guidelines or certain process. So the kids are doing wonderful and amazing job. So we as an adults how could we promote or introduce this to more and more people.
(46:37) So it's a kind of outreach side I'm working on and um bringing in more kids and we are planning to introduce meditation to youth this year. That is what is our focus in Iowa all the time like adults by default it would be there but my heart is pulled towards youth the teenagers because the amount of uh things they are get distracted or their energy is pulled towards I'm seeing my daughter is in a high school how many activities they were having are they choosing it for their inner joy or just for everyone is taking to build the
(47:17) competitiveness they are taking. So that's where I wanted to bring them every day back to their core and seeing what brings them the joy. So I wanted to give them that kind of experience exposure. So we just started the one program is done while I'm in Atlanta. So we'll be taking more into uh youth. >> Yes, definitely.
(47:40) This is really need of the hour because >> when the kids were able to understand meditation and spirituality then I think you are going to change the entire generation. >> The generation will have a beautiful uh kids with all the sort of knowledge on this meditation spirituality you know like the entire generation changes. Thank you so much for bringing that and it is it is wonderfully happening for 144 days nonstop by kids.
(48:08) >> Mhm. It's never done before. >> Yes. >> Wow. This is great. So great. Like even even if I get to listen about this thing, I'm so excited like oh is this happening from our kids. Wow. Thank you so much for getting it. So tell us more about now we are in a position that America we got a land in both places in Dallas and Atlanta.
(48:36) So when you first heard about this thing like we are getting the asham you know the temple or the meditation center or the pyramid. So what was running through your mind when you first heard about this thing? So these were the essential things um because we all forcing ourselves into busy life that could be carrier, kids like a lot of insecurities whatever we are going through and there was a strong urge within me as well to have spend some time like a kind of natural way of living being away from your regular uh chasing life. So once a while have that
(49:16) bliss. I'm so happy. Listen like um Atlanta had a land and Dallas have a facility. It is like every one of us it's not just like Atlanta people are the Dallas people. Any one of us are welcomed and go there spend some time being with the being with yourself. So it is a great opportunity. I was longing for it and uh it is a great moment that had come true.
(49:50) I was able to come and spend here for 2 weeks now. Um when and where I'm able to work and I'm able to enjoy the space. It's so beautiful. I think everyone everyone would love please come and like experience it. It's a kind of unless you experience it you will not have the taste of it. Now that I have some interesting question for you.
(50:17) So what is the difference between doing meditation alone at home versus doing meditation in the group versus coming to some spiritual centers like this where we wanted to build a meditation center and doing meditation there. Like what exactly is the difference between all these things? Although like it is just meditation and you close your eyes the moment you close your eyes you're done.
(50:40) and you are already cut off half of your world. >> So I have seen a tremendous difference by the way uh being alone in Iowa to begin meditation journey. I was relying on the zoom sessions or the PMC recorded sessions. So I feel like there is a group with me. So what it helps me is like to to transcend myself or my limitations.
(51:08) Oh, I cannot do more than five minutes or I cannot do more than 10 minutes. I cannot do more than 15 minutes. So, it helped me to come out of that uh phase of my mind play initially. Then I started uh seeing the difference of being in the zoom group meditation. So I was able to extend myself doing the long little longer meditation.
(51:30) At the same time the number of thoughts are getting into that state of meditation and uh the result it was so beautiful. Then I have started doing like in person we slowly started like a few of us get together and uh do meditation together for 45 minutes or an hour or so and uh it is like a a a great difference like uh sometimes like if I do meditation by myself uh lot of thoughts comes and then I remember like I have to do this and that and the other works so I'll say I may postpone okay I'll do it later type of when we have a a group meditation. We
(52:11) come together though my mind is playing something or reminding me something but as a group that collective consciousness or whatever we name it. So it it uplifts my uh ability of extending the meditation. So I have seen that difference and also like um doing it with a little bigger group.
(52:38) So each time it is expanding my ability of uh meditation time and also like uh the state of meditation meditative state where like um I get into like less number of thoughts and whatever the benefit of meditation I was seeing um great coming from oneself doing at home to a group online versus in person and also relying around powmies this type of things one by one.
(53:08) These were helping me a tools to um expand my meditation capacity. >> Explain me the difference between doing meditation with the group in IVA and also coming to this meditation center and doing meditation. Did you find any difference? So certainly um especially like uh when we do a smaller group in Iowa so where we have uh we don't have like a home centers we do have so where we get together and in the temples and the different places we were doing so coming to Atlanta pyramid land so that itself is like the holistic feeling one
(53:48) thing and also it's being in the nature and though the pyramid is not there yet. It is just an empty land but still it is connected with the mother nature. um being bit away from our regular busy life. It's feeling like it's an ashum where I it helped me like true to myself or connect to myself very easily compared to like um doing meditations at an individual home or individual smaller centers versus coming to a um uh a spiritual lands like this.
(54:29) Yeah. So although like we do not have meditation the proper pyramid there but we still be able to make a simple temporary 21 and that's where we are doing meditation and soon like this is a news for everyone who's watching this and we are getting the myri home ready >> probably like in next couple of months we are going to get that fully established operational myri home where everyone can come forward and they can do meditation they can do workshops there and we are going to build some crystal rooms home studio and everything
(55:00) will be there. So tell us uh how exactly uh how many hours of meditation that you have done in the meditation center there in Atlanta pyramid land. So I yeah as I said like there wasn't like a prominent complete structural building uh where it has like a weatherproof like heating cooling this thing but still we do have like a uh outdoor it's um it it was amazing to see like how the 21x 21 pyramid was made with the copper rods and with the the smaller tent was there.
(55:36) So I have done like uh four overnight meditations. So far they were uh fantastic. The very first time I have done was like a severe cold. I felt the first first day that week the weather was like a bit harsh. Felt like Iowa weather. >> This is this for real? Like you did four overnight meditations in that cold I mean just the open land.
(56:02) >> Yeah. Four days. Four different days. Did you did you do this before like overnight meditation any time in your life? >> So I have tried my max meditation capacity in a in a 3 hour 6 hours I have tried. So this very first time we have tried have given an attempt to do like mahashi vatri meditation.
(56:26) So that was on and off not in a stretch. So whereas here in Atlanta pyramid meditation land so it was a stretch >> overnight meditation. news to me. I think you did this for the first time. >> Yeah, I did. >> After coming to Atlanta, >> something really great like your your energies and the land energies they are all together and you were able to make it overnight meditation.
(56:49) So tell us like what motivated you to do overnight meditation in Atlanta? What what actually triggered you to go and do meditation overnight? So for last um um couple different months since I have come from mount sasta I was longing for more silence and more sadhana or the inner transformation. I was craving for ashram or ashram dharma where I'm I cannot able to like leave the family for long and go to India or go different places.
(57:22) I was craving to have something within us where I'm able to go and spend time with my like-minded friends and able to do. I was so fortunate uh my sister-in-law Anjali like she encouraged me uh to come over here and have a bit of experience. So while I was here I was fortunate enough to be part of a a 55hour meditation one full day I was able to be part of and it these things were all dots connected and I it was since it's a longing desire to be there as soon as I went to the land irrespective of what kind of weather it was there I have given attempt
(58:02) so weather was so much cooperative and though it was only two of us me and my sister-in-law throughout night we we didn't feel any um scare or fear or we are away from the family or we are only two women outside we felt like it was all like we were surrounded by uh um like so protective that's what we felt >> wow wow I'm so thrilled to see you and Anjali they're always there you know like she she is the master that we always rely on in doing this long hour meditation.
(58:40) So I personally know like how Anjeli worked in this uh long hour journey. So tell us what is the difference between I mean is is there any significance of doing meditation for 1 hour versus doing overnight meditations? No like what exactly makes what is the change after you do do long hour meditation like how exactly it impacts in your life or in your mindset? So what I have noticed over the period of time was uh an hour of meditation, a couple hours of meditation, they were enough for my regular dayto-day activities like if I
(59:20) do meditation in the morning. So I was having some energy to carry my day to day long work. So again like a 45 minutes or an hour meditation before going to bed. So they were like was enough for me to running my machine my physical body machine. So once I started extending those hours that's when I started seeing the physical changes meaning like some health aspects or or emotional aspects these things were getting cleared especially during this long hours the overnight we have tried like 6 p.m. to 6 a.m.
(1:00:00) It just felt like a couple minutes. There wasn't much um bodily breaks were needed at the restroom breaks. I we didn't feel I didn't feel that this the time just slipped by. Um the energy levels were enhanced. How they were helping me in day-to-day is my office work it's becoming very light and light whereas my family things becoming light and light.
(1:00:30) So things were all collectively helping me a very balanced sustained life where I have like a meaningful living um being in samsara samsaraam I was able to manage my household things taking care of children being a mom being a full-time working I am also able to find time for my own sadhana and to think about community so It's it's like overall it's helping me live like meaningfully with an extended hours of meditation and coming to this kind of centers once a while because being in a different state but coming once a while
(1:01:17) here and then uh extending hours of sadhana it's like bundling of energy bundling of these things I'm carrying bring back home. >> Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, right? So, what we have built is for everyone. This is not for Atlanta locals or specific to pyramid masters only. You have to do be this then only you come here.
(1:01:42) Nothing as such. Right? Like we wanted to experience this for everyone. Every possible state master must visit and make sure that they are taking something from here. One more thing it helped me is with minimal things we can able to survive or live for a while. So um I don't need to have that all the time that sophisticated bed available or like uh be within my cozy home having that heated conditions cold conditions to do meditate.
(1:02:16) So these are all like my bodily limits. So I wanted to transcend out of those physical limitations. So this particular sadhana in this type of ashams is helping me coming out of those limitations. So I was really fond of uh you guys have come across u making the maitri home when it's ready masters coming from outside could come with a limb with the little things they could come do their sadhana and then experience this so we don't need to have like all the comforts we could even live with the minimal things >> so tell us what exactly dana jagat for
(1:02:59) you the meditation world that everyone is stronging for. So how do you actually see this word when when it comes to your mind like what exactly runs through your mind? >> So when I heard those words the goosebumps comes to me. Wow. Everybody like um it's it's beautiful world but what is my part in that? How the jagat can happen is me taking care of my own self living in that joy blissful state and sharing that love and compassion to the people in and around me if I am able to do that and every meditator is able to do their little
(1:03:40) part so that would definitely happens expanded to the the jagat it's not that one particular individual or I are have to do entire jagat the the nation it's like that little world if we are if we are able to uh transform that's a great achievement >> yeah now I have some rapid fire questions for you I'll give some two or three options for each and every question you can pick one okay so do you recommend long over meditations to your friends >> yes I definitely >> and do you recommend anyone coming from Iowa or some other
(1:04:21) place to different different states. Do you recommend visiting to different different places? >> Yes, certainly that is essential because it is exchange. The energy exchange is essential. If we are like located one particular place, we are we are only with that limited energy. So we need to go give our energy and then get the new energy and go back and take that energy to your motherland.
(1:04:46) >> Yeah. So what is your next state that you are going to visit? >> So my next state is like um so I have a focus of like Midwestern states >> um to travel in and around a couple different states and energize each other, encourage each other. So that's what is my my moto of like focusing on the Midwest belt at this moment.
(1:05:11) >> Yeah. Now uh invite uh everyone to mega meditation summit then what would be your first word like what do you actually give some USP for mega meditation summit like what what runs in your mind >> so it's a celebration so let's all meet celebrate together have fun together so mega meditation summit is for fun and enjoyment >> what is pyramid for you >> so pyramid is an energy anchor theoretically a different aspect and experimentally and now the state I am in is an energy conductor and amplifier I have witnessed it um very first time I
(1:05:59) have heard before entering into meditation I never heard of these things only Egyptian pyramids during our childhood studies um once I started uh listening the pyramid meditation channel people's experiences. So I have started like experimenting with the different material like a cardboard material and then the copper pyramids and the crystals.
(1:06:24) So I've started experimenting like energizing the water. So I've seen the taste of the water is different and the quality and the texture that the feeling of the thirst when we have that water as if we are close to the the pure rivers the nature where the water flows through when we take that kind of that water the same feel I get when I drink the energized water in the pyramid so it's been last couple years uh we we go with the water from home the energized water I send kids to school with that water um it's been couple years we have seen any sickness in the
(1:07:03) home >> wow now tell us about if if you get a chance to teach meditation what kind of age group that you select you select teenagers professionals or doctors so these are the three areas what do you choose >> so I am in a universal person for the first place irrespective of the cast card or degree or the profession what you hold end of the day you are a human being you have a breath you have a nose you have a breath so meditation is required for every age group but at this moment if you ask me who do I pick if I
(1:07:43) have all the age groups since it's a universal process common for all age groups so we can introduce meditation to all but at this moment my heart pulls towards the youth the teenager ers. So one could be because my kids may be in the same age group. Whenever I feel that age group all kids are my kids, they all would need to live that bliss joyfully rather than racing for the competitions uh or the contest.
(1:08:13) They wanted to be true connect to themselves. Is it bringing that inner joy whatever they are doing? I wanted to bring that experience to them. So at this moment I'm focusing more towards the kids youth. >> So do you recommend uh pyramids in your home? If yes then what would be your sale point? >> So pyramids definitely I would encourage everyone to have if you have a space.
(1:08:43) So in Iowa we started um taking the initiative once I started understanding the pyramids crystals meditation utilization we have taken an initiative of encouraging everyone to have a pyramids in their home. So we do like a customizations according to the space what they have. So we are encouraging promoting to have um pyramid meditation centers in their home to set up like 9x10 9x9 10 x 10 um copper pyramids if they don't have space we are suggesting to encourage them to like the ceiling pyramids the bed pyramids. So in
(1:09:21) different ways according to what the meditator has their space these things we are trying to help them uh by customizing at the at the end no matter what at least you have the cap pyramid if you don't have any of these things aren't visible at your home so give it a try and then share us your feedback this is how we are encouraging meditators >> that's awesome like it's so fun talking to you I have So much stuff learned from you and thank you so much for uh sharing all this wisdom and your presence in Atlanta pyramid and sharing your
(1:09:58) energies is so needful for us. Thank you so much for all that Manish whatever the services that you've been doing as as the entire family is doing it. Uh thank you once again. >> Thank you. >> Uh thank you Atlanta pyramid team. So all the viewers thank you so much. Listen to this podcast. Please share, subscribe and like all our videos if you like it and we'll again meet next time with another beautiful master, another grand share of knowledge that we are going to do it in the next podcast.
(1:10:28) Thank you so much. Signing off, Arun. >> Thank you.

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