Can humans live for 150 Years? | Longevity & The Future of Healthcare | TRP by Suhas #telugupodcast
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Title: Can humans live for 150 Years? | Longevity & The Future of Healthcare | TRP by Suhas #telugupodcast
Author Name: The Real Podcast by Suhas Shetty
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Can humans really live for 150 years? What would it take to extend human life, and how could healthcare, medicine, and our approach to fitness change in the coming decades?
In this episode of The Real Podcast, Suhas sits down with Ajay Bulusu, Founder of 150, for a fascinating conversation about longevity, the evolution of healthcare, and the future of human life.
Ajay shares the story behind the idea of 150, how the journey began, and the mission driving the initiative. The conversation explores whether living longer could become a reality, the role of modern medicine, and the changes that may reshape healthcare over the next 10 years.
The discussion also examines the side effects of medicines, the growing popularity of weight-loss drugs, and how people are approaching fitness and health differently. Ajay shares perspectives on Gen Z's fitness mindset and the challenges of building healthier habits in a world increasingly influenced by convenience, medication, and changing lifestyles.
What will healthcare look like in the future? Will medical innovations help people live longer, and what should individuals do today to improve their chances of living healthier lives? The conversation explores these questions while looking at what it could take to make the 150 mission a reality.
From longevity and medicine to weight-loss drugs, healthcare innovation, and the future of human health, this episode challenges us to rethink how we live and what it means to live longer.
If you're interested in longevity, healthcare, fitness, medicine, health technology, or the future of human life, this episode is a must-watch.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction
01:13 What Is 150?
03:06 Can Humans Live for 150 Years?
06:42 Side Effects of Tablets and Medication
13:08 The Idea Behind 150: Origin & Journey
21:48 How Healthcare Has Evolved
31:07 What Changes Can We Expect in the Next 10 Years?
34:20 Weight-Loss Drugs
42:04 Gen Z's Approach to Fitness
59:20 The 150 Mission: What Should Humans Do?
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(00:02) death probability goes down dramatically and claude has a bioarm now open as a bioarm now you know Microsoft has a bioarm for the first time doing [music] work that pharma companies were doing people with POTS or autoimmune or seris arthritis you know rheumatoid things that didn't have a cure at some point I have a feeling full [music] the best council I got was from actually [music] saying boss you have something called let's talk about GLP one and [music]
(00:48) drug holiday [music] one in five people use GLP do you know this >> yes one in 20 40 if you have no accidents and you are generally healthy from 40 you can go up to 2100 150 and 150 and it came up like a random number actually humans are alive today death probability goes goes down dramatically.
(01:30) So 100 will be a number anybody will achieve science is going to in my opinion it's not like you will be mobile you will be cognitively sharp hopefully active Right. Is there a way we can make people actually
(02:18) do it? It's not our job. There's a lot of people doing amazing research globally. Our job is to educate people on how to live healthily from the age of 40. And for us I think 35 to 40 is the sweet spot when you should start taking care of your health we are generally okay right you won't have any issues in general you just you know skim through but 40 in my friend circle including me and my friends also what I'm seeing is that personal neither parents you will start thinking about.
(03:02) Okay. And in that scenario 15 years actually and without death of different numbers if you're on bed it makes no sense, right? Here we will evolve to a stage where 200 if you have no accidents and you are generally healthy from 40 you can go up to 2100 >> easily from 2040 to 2100 >> you this generation who's already alive in this age will be alive our thesis >> okay is it genetically possible >> until there is some science to say even how long you will live is already
(03:45) predicted in your genes >> uh there's something called epigenetics we'll talk about it as we genetically let's talk let's talk see the way I explain this to you is genetics [clears throat] okay food exercise so epigenetics remodeling is what we are thinking about. It's not about genetic remodeling. You cannot change it.
(04:25) There are therapies right now in the US that we've heard of where people have gone edited their genes. >> We are not advanc We're not thinking. But 1% epigenetic change. >> Is it practically possible? >> I am not sure. I am not the scientific brain. Agreed. Agreed. But >> I think there is enough wealthy people who apparently done it. Right.
(04:46) They don't do it in US. In US is not allowed still. They will go to Honduras, Guatemala, etc. They will take the crew and they will do it there. There you ed it. There have been cases. I don't know. Uh but I think in the future it may be possible. >> There is nothing as of today that people are thinking is impossible.
(05:01) That's a good that's a good positive thing about the world actually today. So how do I avoid major genetic diseases? People don't want to know their genes. You ask the richest people also in India genetic test. I don't want to know. It's not about I don't want to know. You should know because if you don't know, how will you prevent? It'll be too late.
(05:29) Right? So that is the exact education we are giving people. >> Saying that see genetic. >> So what kind of a test is required for genetic testing? >> See genetic test is just a swab test. It's a saliva test. Right? Epigenetic is the more interesting one that goes to US. >> Okay. education the US also education is a little low this called pace of aging till lens even Harvard has published a lot of it even even we sent it to true age and Harvard only even how it how it goes it takes about 6 to 8 weeks to come okay
(05:55) >> it gives you a detailed report of actually how you're pacing okay example I insulin resistance home but epigenetic there's another marker HSCP or something like that right within that for a lot people combination of the epigenetic plus lifestyle is showing that you'll be pre-diabetic by 45. >> Okay.
(06:29) So for you what is the most important number as a human being to worry on is home 140 150 200 marks for its to lifestyle. Second one, if you drink a lot, if you eat lot of sweet, all of that, you are prone to higher lipids, prone to higher cardiovascular. But human beings are not disciplined. So our job as 150 is to fit into your
(07:21) life like that. lead but you need to take care of your health in some okay health I am sick I will go to doctor righta if you can prevent sickness >> or you can prevent I would say major sickness right let's say 80% of the people die with four things in general it's well researched again by Howard right >> uh to cardiovascular neuro there's mind there's one more thing right death sucker due to 80% 80% of deaths sucker due to these four things, heart health, brain health.
(08:05) So 10 years, right? You should maintain your car from the first day. So it runs for like 10, 20, 30 years. Same thing with human body. So we tell all our people 5 days healthy six day I'll drink a bottle of whiskey and that's your body is going to get like messed up. So >> have a balance that is the whole concept of 150 actually first baseline yourself >> understand deeply about your body we will do intervention specifically to help you manage certain diseases we know from your genetics two what is the probability of you getting
(08:48) it epigenetic system okay third your doctor is actually the guy who codes. So the way you look at software it's a model that tells you right will look at you like a single point of contact okay let's take an example but does he see anything else in your body not really but does he also know how the sinus medication affects your other organs.
(09:24) No, there is research of course on that but they will not look at it that way. >> Mhm. We look at the human body using that one holistic loop >> right and right from there's something called phoggenomics which so when people leave with us they have then what we've done okay a lot of people can give you summary in one place we are humans we forget How do you remember later on? So we have a a very simple WhatsApp agent or you can just query when you want.
(10:04) >> Mhm. >> Saying hey I am in Japan. I eating this fish. Okay. Is there a way uh is there allergy for me for this fish as a question. Right. Answer is no. A you don't have that gene specifically. Don't worry. You have no allergies. Also we've done a comprehensive allergy test for you. So don't worry.
(10:24) Eat it you know confidently. I am somewhere in US. I want to I have headache. I have this OTC Tylenol. like can I take it? It will say no you have a proof in modifier in your thing don't have to alternatively there's something else in US that is the level of hyperpersonal stuff that we're doing at 150 uh this is how we think that you can live healthily over a period of time not taking generic advice generic medicine generic anything I mean [clears throat] it is a large language no I'm not talking about the complete lm No partial format which can integrate
(11:02) and the language >> LLM summarizes your information. >> Yes, of course. >> Right. >> Data whatever it feed we feed >> right. So we don't have to build anything uh in between actually. In fact you have the data but we don't so we have hallucination checks and they should not give you a crazy advice that take this prescription all that we are building and I am building the guard rails today.
(11:26) I'm not trying to go and reinvent the >> no I completely agree in that scenario. So if I create a small particular agent from the same cloud which is there in available in the market I'll do some dexa scan and I'll do this testing the same thing it acts in a similar format acts in a similar format but it won't be the same >> see similar see another thing so when you query LLM like versus a a doctor queries LLM like versus I query LLM it's very different >> no you creates a templates very with a very good prompts maybe.
(12:01) >> Huh. So our uh in fact we don't even create the prompts like the doctor prompts using his doctor knowledge actually >> into the LLMs >> then outcomes a model and output to say okay for a male 39 family history this current blood marker this you give this protocol a protocol is right or wrong and who certify >> who certify whether that protocol is right or wrong >> it's like saying okay finan it can't work that there is a element of human in the loop so human in the loop assisted
(12:45) AI will fully summarize it for doctor if I show you my case gene ABCD epigenetic CDF focus mechanism who will certify it's a doctor. >> Okay. and mechanism is very important of how it's going through otherwise any will give you the ad you want language of process what made you to start this I used to be in maths I'm a math guy but overall tech guy
(13:28) >> overall tech and engineer plus you know very typical Telu profile I have >> but then around 2011 when I came back to Hyderabad engineering masters 2008 engineering 2009 masters 200 I was just doing some time then I started to get into tech I moved into Google maps >> then I got into maps for a long time Okay field maps if you're there you'll like it's a crazy good field actually it's a lot of fun whatever you do you seeing impact on a physical world today right
(14:13) place in the office it feels good right same way so in maps I work for a long time then Google long back hyper local delivery it is to give a digital layer to physical stores So then I got fired for whatever be the reasons. Then I went to Japan actually for a while. Indeed.com Indeed is the world's largest job search engine.
(14:46) >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Right. I worked at Indeed for one year and my now wife then girlfriend. Then we were very well set. We were about to get married. So then my life took me a full circle. I came back to grab to work for maps again. Google said boss third world countries I don't invest. >> Mhm. >> Australia, UK, US, Germany.
(15:17) Then there is something called open street maps. OSM then we built our own company in open street maps and open source. Then we sold it to many other companies. tech last 15 years I've been there two years back I lost dad actually dad 96 he had cancer drugopathy like 100% so my father 18 years he maintained himself very well but the thing is he just couldn't do it like anymore literally same time as all this in 22 23 and vegetarian non-drinker non-smoker
(16:04) grammin family loss colctal cancer it's very rare foods >> so when that came we didn't know how it came nobody answered how it came I said stage four straight stage four it was rectum and liver right so when we went to AIG they did a obviously they did a brilliant job of treating my mom but it was So uh and we were surprised there was element of surprise across the family.
(16:32) Then I said we should not be surprised we should know why this is happening. So I started digging into healthcare in 2023 like 24 like when the certified cure I'm like fine let us sit with AI let's start basic stuff that uploading the reports understanding querying querying querying understanding the science behind it.
(16:52) What I learned is the way AI can look at a person because it's computation right it is not single it is it's millions of things no doctor however good or bad can look at it >> uh at least the physician aspect of it >> obviously I can't do everything right doctors are way smarter than I but the way to summarize information to doctors only I was like fine I dug into healthare I put my own money when I sold my company for 6 8 months into this.
(17:22) >> Okay. >> And I just didn't want to raise money. I wanted to be like I want to prevent what happened to mom dad to other people's mom dad was my goal. It was more utopian goal. I would talk about this topic. First question everybody says then I how do I say I I can't say anything right? It's a very logical question.
(17:55) So I didn't feel bad. I'm like fine. So I I started putting out requisitions on LinkedIn >> saying I'm a I'm a second time founder. >> I'm experimenting at the intersection of healthare and AI. >> I will hire I will pay. I'll make sure you are there. And I got you won't believe it. Hundreds of rums. Hundreds.
(18:14) Not even tens. I am not a celebrity doctor. Neither am I a doctor. Okay. But the number of doctors who are frustrated by the way medicine is practiced today. You will not believe it. >> I interviewed hundreds of them actually. Then I understood that oh these guys are also very frustrated with the tools process and how hospitals treat them.
(18:39) factor. Mhm. >> And hospitals, right? They have to make money. >> So, but all doctors in their heart they want to prevent disease. If you ask any doctors, they should not fall sick because we studying to make sure right. So, philosophically whoever aligned with me, I hired them. Then when I started talking to my friends saying AI model okay fine then we started seeing results of friends right let's say biology is not like it's not code right biology takes time
(19:29) I'll give you a simple thing I like experimenting with weeks full body check 300 400 and the liver got poisoned through that medicine obviously you'll get scared then I told four beers on the weekend. It's impossible I have liver issue. No doctor could give me a single reason why it happened including TCM. Suddenly
(20:25) they are not caring doctors eight autoimmune tests almost biopsy fibro scan the best the best counsel I got was from actually AI engines saying boss you have something called drug induced liver injury okay DI it's in phase 2 alt 300 6x 7x of where you are almost 10x where you are you will take around 9 months to recover.
(20:56) 9 months of discipline, no alcohol, eating clean, taking supplements. Trust me, it is dot to dot 9 months. So I realized okay if these guys can summarize then and I queried more scientifically when I was querying saying okay give me PubMed research give me other cases like this you know query everything you can make a graph like being a tech we've built everything data specific it was right to the TND and you will not believe it okay engineer if I can do this imagine a doctor with this power >> if he curated the right way we can save hundreds of lives we can prevent
(21:35) hundreds of dreaded diseases to come to you but you have to be proactive I'll give you model and doctor humans okay that's a formation history of the company I mean as per your understanding we'll be in the market we in the market we doing just friends and family okay seemerce yeah no I agree last 3 4 months double I'm hiring the right team you raised it for this I raised around 2.6 6 million.
(22:11) Now we have some two three uh crane it's a big fund in London. >> Okay. Okay. >> Then two three big family friends they have put little bit money as well. They are also early believers in this thesis they want to prevent. >> Mhm. >> So uh we have taken about 25 people >> okay >> on the program exactly 3 months old >> all 25 I can call and they will say there is something that they have seen in their life they have not seen before.
(22:36) >> And they have not understood their body's correlations. 150 and day is it an app that's it >> it's a actually app is a is a medium but actually 150 is a protocoling system >> right so we have built somewhat of a blueprint to understand >> in terms of longit longivity formats of >> longitudinal data it's that actually for how do I take AJ over a period of 10 years and how do I predict what AJ can get when he's You can uh change your trajectories accordingly.
(23:16) >> Okay. So we are trying to build a longitudinal graph of your body >> of every human in fact >> and then see how do we prevent major disease they cannot remember so many things about you >> right they see hundreds of people but AI is the best memory in the world >> of course >> right >> it's a recording module >> and also the best summarization module in the world I can get AI is becoming [clears throat] better and better and better >> our job we are just that's a tip of a b when you're at the tip of the b we should be ready for it
(23:58) >> so and we are now readying the infrastructure that tomorrow you dump not one 5,000 reports about yourself 10 minutes we should be able to give you blueprint >> easy right and say [snorts] next month situation if he does this 3 months I guarantee with statistical significance. vitamin B6, B12 can't process these vitamins.
(24:45) Well, three types of vitamins on empty stomach. Okay. same RAM supplement R lip alphic acid it's a it's a it's a master antioxidant in your body >> nobody's in India's heard of it properly >> mh >> but many Indians need it >> for for lipid control uh for their you know general vitamin control absorption very important supplement to have >> oh >> but they don't know so [snorts] elani we're trying to tell people that Simple simple supplements over a period of time.
(25:31) Genetic related deficiencies function. It's not so easy by the way. Okay. People supplements are a big fraud. If you supplement the right way, it's not a fraud. >> But you should know what to supplement. >> Yeah. >> Right. Right? So we have all been accustomed to these conspiracy theories about it. Right? But when you look at the data, we don't have a single person today who said okay what you're talking is not making logical sense to me numbers plus Dr.
(26:04) like yes this this makes sense right you're able to tell me >> perspective all together again correct and you're able to tell me the mechanism and I they're all scientific aks okay after you just tell me but there's enough [snorts] science to prove it >> so it's very intriguing very interesting as you get into it >> then school.
(26:36) I'm fully studying with my doctors and I have luckily found an amazing set of five doctors now. >> Okay. >> Okay. Each one with a specialtity on their own individual. >> So we have endocrinologist for GLP1 and stuff like that. Uh we have a gut microbiome specialist because half the is actually I mean rapid change that is the first change we know some some people 3 weeks you will not believe it.
(27:11) Okay, they have seen acne, black it is not getting processed in the body. Take an example. Okay. >> It's calledomics. It's calledomics.cess. >> So when we give nutrition plan to our people, it is based on nutrienomics not on weight loss. >> Health coach nutrition. People are
(27:57) spending lakhs every month. They are spending lakhs to get a GP plan almost and without your genetics how will they tell you a plan. >> Agreed. >> Right. without knowing what my body can process. [laughter] You should be crazy to do it, right? People go to personal trainer, go to gym, spend their effort and money because that will give you discipline.
(28:36) >> Yes. The reason people come to 150 is also sort of like that and we are a premier product and our tests are expensive premier it cost you money right so >> how it it starts is the subscription model or how it is like it's a 8 week and a 12e protocol maximum one year to start J >> all our first 24 one year protocol and while they want a conc medicine service right they don't want to uh they don't want to think.
(29:12) They're like boss every month. Typical >> we realizing money is not the constraint for many people. Discipline is right and double. So we like boss we'll condense this whole thing. So there's only one one and a half lakh thing that we do and epigenetics is expensive test. Okay. That how much that cost? One lakh. Okay.
(29:43) Next is three lakhs. Mhm. >> Okay. What is this? So we want to spend some time >> explaining. So you change your life as you deem fit. >> Yeah. Yeah. Same way in we give extensive nutrition >> like plan for the next few months. >> Understood. >> Right. In fact for some of our concent but that is in very alpha stages right now but two and a half you'll get your full about health blueprint is in your hands.
(30:25) You'll know what to eat, what medicines to take, your current baselines, all your genetic risks and how to avoid it and supplementation plan. All six you will get in one outcome. >> Epigenetics, we can go one more step deep. >> Mhm. >> If somebody literally that is as much of a small intervention you can do. M >> so that I cannot avoid your genetic problems. Okay.
(31:01) Because you're born with it, I can delay it. Understood. [clears throat] We can extend our life to another 50 to 60 years. So as per your ideology and since you working with the multiple possibilities I can sense it correct end of end of the day I'm a pharmacy guy >> I mean next I think as per my doctor see there is one tech narrative and cloud has a biocom now open has a bioarm now you know Microsoft has a biocom so they are for the first time doing work that pharma companies were
(31:48) doing right in terms of how do we fuse technology and medicine together and that will be I don't know if you know he started isomorphic labs right he's trying to treat diseases that are non-commercial or rather right because of abundance of technology and comput that is one big change I'm going to see over the next 10 years.
(32:20) Right? So people with POTS or autoimmune or soriasis, arthritis, you know, rheumatoid things that didn't have a cure. >> They had maintenance treatments. >> Yeah. >> Right. One quality of life. Just imagine a person with arthritis getting some level of 80% relief in cure. It is humongous for them, right? Those things will come in the next 10 years.
(32:45) two extremely complicated diseases, right? Again, no research, no work done, etc. But you know, uh somebody has done something only because they're enthusiastic about it. But first time AI is able to design cures. It's able to design some proteins. It able to design things that humans could not design. >> Mhm. >> Same thing.
(33:10) Similar brain and multiple brains at once, right? E2. Third cancer at some point I have a feeling full-fledged cure. Oh >> okay. It may not be for extremely complicated cancer [clears throat] but already extremely simple but I have cancer that's that's again not because of us because of environment stress pollution our supply is contaminated painful chemo radiation there will be something I feel fourth is vaccines to prevent many of these things are also getting designed as we was a big epidemic, you know, right?
(33:54) Yes. Yes. >> So I feel and I have a feeling other cancers will get vaccinative. It's possible again because of technology and medicine fusing. >> It's not because of just uh the pharma companies doing like you know more work. So I'm very optimistic. >> Understood. Let's talk about GLP one as of the reason usage of GP is not as of
(34:40) today. I mean what you call international budgets. So let's talk about that. So again I don't want to talk to doctor perspective but on a pure science perspective from what I understand from my doctors wonder drug for certain people right pre-diabetic diabetic imps
(35:33) One in five people use GLP. Do you know this? That's it. >> Yes. One in five. Every household almost a GLP customer is there. Okay. I'll give you one trivia data point. Uh AI spend consumer spend in US tools. Just take a number. Oh, 20 30 billion. 2030 billion right GLP 76 billion >> 76 billion >> on GP okay just imagine consumer mind so just I'm saying
(36:31) it's a much more gray area. one peptide and see we should think of GLP as a peptide no >> there are multiple peptides there's BPC157 TB 500 copper peptide semank >> all of this in US the spend is more than 76 billion >> because people just buy online it comes home you inject it and you feel good but BPC recovery I personally first degree know it is 20 people using it >> right is it doctor given no because doctor's not certified to give you BPC right yeah >> the only country in the world today that is forming a government law ministry
(37:09) etc. Dubai on this. Okay. Dubai is a longevity ministry now. There's a proper ministry. >> Yeah. Recently, recently, just three, four months back, maybe unregulated regulator, right? You at least get the best suppliers in the world to do these peptides for you. But GLP, I feel coming back to GLP as a point if you tick certain markers, >> there is no harm in using it.
(37:34) And if you're at risk, in fact, if you're obese, it is it is better to use than not to use. The other repercussions of obesity when you get they are much higher than >> no recently again published by Harvard GLP GLP ketos along with the peptide of 3 to four weeks I mean supplements along with these supplements All of us
(38:22) food has been designed by food scientists, not by some some farmer. Right? So, uh why do you like chips? Why do you like it so much? Pringles. Can you stop at one? You can't stop at one Pringle. Same with chocolates, same with any of this ultrarocessed food that all of us have been eating >> for the last 15 years and we all >> how do you give the craving to human being they have also put something in that to reverse GLP and make you eat more.
(38:58) >> Yeah. So actually we should not there is all sorts of repercussions for it. Yesord we know some some cases of GLP right it means that GLP is trying to cut >> your craving for salt sugar food and probably that's how We were not born that time, right? We don't know how our grandparents eat and what they ate.
(39:33) >> Yeah. >> But the reality today is about GLP if it is used in the right way combined with nutrition, >> it's extremely effective for quick weight loss also cutting of craving. >> Mhm. >> And for millions of people just by the way, they have been obese since they were a kid. Definitely helpful.
(40:01) But social media that's not the right thing to do. You should have a good endocrinologist to guide you. You should have a good nutritionist to do it. I saw an ad by a company that I don't want to name. While while ad said upcoming wedding lose 5 kilos, I have GLP program. [laughter] I'm not joking. I had put it on my LinkedIn saying this marketing is ridiculous.
(40:24) GLP. Why vanity what is there right those things I I don't encourage I don't think you should do you'll stop or you'll continue right but these are the kind of snake oil selling so now it's 1 but like you've seen it's Uhhuh. 65% of distributor stock is lying. Yeah. >> So many articles of India put every pharmacy you can get if you
(41:09) want. But my other prediction for the next 10 years for all of us on what basis? Just to cut appetite, just to eat lesser, just to get healthy and all of us are we love food even I love food right I have debated many times but I don't qualify like my own doctors don't give me GP even if I want >> and BMI 23 >> okay >> there there are certain tick marks you have to do I'm not pre-diabetic >> so my BMI is 23 they But it is definitely extremely helpful
(41:58) for people. But pros cons are more prone to this fitness thought process. Millennials but at some level high spending 80 80 to 20%. >> So it's it's all about the thought process or upgradation of mindset or >> they and they see every generation has its quirks.
(42:41) >> Yes. Yes. Right. Our generation my dad used to say because we will go right but that's how we grew up because all of us right it was deary actually even today by the way as you said >> all of us evening okay we get let's get a drink is a normal thing but with jenzi I think they grew up being more self-aware one they You drove with much more money.
(43:14) Much more money, much more knowledge. But the thing is Gen Z as you said they grew up in social media. Yes. basic maturity levels up social media everything in the hand >> that has its pros it has its cons like all of us have our pros and our cons in every generation but I feel that they are insanely into fitness which is great in a way because >> if you you will live till 150 if you eat less also your lifespan will go up right you are doing all this for
(44:00) what and take one reason why are you staying fit >> and why do people stay fit >> health >> health and they want to live >> healthy >> I'm not saying they want to live longer >> they want to live healthily okay but just by running and doing gym you can't live healthily >> you have to understand inside the body what's going on right so I think with jenzi I really appreciate that they have cut out alcohol from their life fully >> uh that's why they have gotten a rise to new things right you put for example the hottest CPG trend in US is protein
(44:33) waters No, >> you know liquid IVs, >> kombuchas, consumer market going to skyrocket in the next 20 years. >> Even India consumerism is just picking up. >> Yes. >> I had gone to Vita Foods and Bangkok expo. Yeah. >> It's crazy. Okay. This type of stuff I saw sublingual strips, gummies even these are new form factors of supplements only.
(44:59) >> Yes. Yes. Yes. And that's what the consumer >> now they calling it as a neutrautical nothing more than >> that's what the consumer wants on exactly consumer royal salute or black right in my bottle and I'm not joking my friends also because you won't get anything in India and it's so amazing right I carry these many supplements for agree agree agree many I mean yes latest climatic.
(45:32) I don't know if you heard of something called climatic. Okay, it's it's a vape, healthy vape. It has one pill inside. It clears your lungs. There's a new in thing in US, right? That is how our generation also is evolving. As we reach 40, nobody cares what you drink, what you do, how much you go out. That's also because we've also abused our bodies a lot.
(46:10) But also the generation is changing. >> Health and wellness is the number one spend in anyone's anyone's life. Uh you see the richest people in the world today, everyone has a health tech startup. Everyone name it they have health tech startup right from the founder of Coinbase to Airbnb to even bezos name it only certain level of money it doesn't make any difference you don't want to go to hospital three things people pray for right every billion Brian Johnston actually butillionaire
(46:58) focus right so at the end of it do a basic query saying who are all the billionaires invested in healthare today you will find everyone so India next yeah you see I mean the growth towards this hierox [clears throat] it's not Hierrox training gyms. I know friends who do it. But you know after a certain age in general all of us right the number of people who do cold plunges
(47:47) now in my friend circle skyrocketed. The number of people who regularly gym, by the way, this is not likely only go and drink. [laughter] That has become a part of your growing up culture. But I think is a very interesting generation to tap into. Okay. Uh I have some friends in Singapore who are just graduated and we took a nightclub.
(48:30) That was our dream, right? She was so she was telling me something interesting. They spent totally on themselves and they will book a $4,000 retreat in Kosamui. [laughter] No, this unheard of. So I'm saying I was amused who are 22 to 25. But the fact is they have the money also because their parents have earned very well generation [snorts] probably one compounding fathers and grandfathers zero compounding right are extremely wealthy today right but in
(49:16) general India so when you look at it as a macro trend by the time Gen Z came from 98 when they were born right they are two generations of wealth has been guaranteed House is already there. Car already there. Make foreign trips already there. Education abroad already there.
(49:34) So what do you do? All these four were not there for me. So you earned it sort of right. They already came with it. >> Yes. >> So for them health, health, fitness, wellness was their fifth pivot, right? That's how I think the world is going to evolve. I think a lot of people said I don't want to work tomorrow. >> I mean the hierarchman Indian version there's an iron man.
(49:54) The five weeks of sun continues roughly 8 hours it will take all to go. >> I did a retreat beautiful resort. It's a pure health wellness retreat that is been there for a long time. >> How many days? >> I went for three nights. >> Okay. >> It's and you're called when you go there you all wear white and you know and >> it's a hyper curated three-day program.
(50:15) >> Okay. >> Food is fully taken care of. Every day you have a spa, massage and dock consultation. I was blown away. I'm like this is so good. What's the name? >> It's called Wana. Vana there are a few in India >> abroad. Okay. You spend maybe a lakh a night here. Take a wild [snorts] guess what a 4 day for 5 day in Austria or something cost you to do something like this.
(50:43) Take a guess. It'll at least 10 to10 to 40,000 is what you spend for a week and they are booked out. You will not believe it. You will not clinic there is few more like the China there are few in the world that you can pick wellness Mexico and Spain. >> These are exclusive and these are not meant for you to just book and go. Yeah.
(51:11) >> Uh but just imagine these are running full they are opening all over the world. So if there is one big trend apart from AI in the world consumer spend mindset wallet share a lot of it is going to wellness. In fact, when we sit down with our people and say one and a half to three lakhs, oh my you man who spends one and a half three lakhs but you sit with them ask way more than that they're already spending [laughter] spending way more actually than that
(51:58) right you think You're a part of this thing. One and a half to three. Are you mad? Right. But today it may seem but in tomorrow it will become normal. People will say, right? There's no consolidation of all the numbers. 2021 will be bad. Yes. Right. telling people you need a memory
(52:47) stock market. We create the memory for you. With the memory, we give a clinical context for you. >> Third is the offering is a outcome to say we optimize the epigenetics and biomarkers. >> Okay. And other than that, I mean, I heard something else. I mean, hormone replacement HRTs are by the way, especially women, right? There is enough science to prove that.
(53:28) Mhm. Can you please detail at least just for a basic insight? As your hormones change from what I understand from my doctor progesterone body as you age even for menesto Right. >> Okay. See, they're metabolically blessed. They don't need any recycling,
(54:13) right? But not everyone is the same. In fact, there are some amazing case studies. Perry menopause, menopause, premenopause. E3 conditions. >> Hormone replacement therapy is much better than doing other things. >> But willingness to do it's not experimental. there's enough data like behind this they'll infuse they'll infuse infuse yeah okay and I think they sort of recycle or something I I am not fully sure of the process it's we have spoken about this to many women here India it's a low trust society >> we have we have grown up unfortunately
(54:50) in a very low society right you go ask anyone you know raising is never the US low hey you know you know what's he doing yeah I think it's good it's a high trust so Japan high trust society Germany >> it will take many years to understand the possibilities it's all brought up I think so >> it is true right because we've sort of grown up in that society right uh and I don't blame anyone of for thinking the other person is a fraud.
(55:24) >> Yes. >> Make last year 22,000 crores were lost due to phone frauds in India. >> Phone frauds. Okay. >> Phone scam. >> Okay. [laughter] It's a lot of money. >> Agree. >> So when you're in a society where people are calling and scamming you, right? So I feel it will come there. uh but for women there is a lot of science what my doctors are telling me they should do it >> if things are not looking good uh so I feel it is a again as with everything in India Botox by the way
(56:17) you take a wild Hyderabad. Okay. >> Tier twoh >> tier two. >> Tier two. >> Uhra vijada vijada. >> It has beat in Bombay. >> I'm just saying right there's so much money in this tier actually tier 2 India has a lot of money. >> Of course the spending cap is supposed to be huge but everybody wants what is there. I was blown away.
(56:52) I was just born again. I don't have the data. Somebody who owns athetic clinics. He told me this. Now I'll take him at face value. Yeah. Yeah. >> I was blown away. Bombay, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Delhi. Come on. Bombay. to this stat. >> I don't know what it is. He told me that number.
(57:23) I don't know what context that number is. I believed him. I'm like then that's crazy. >> But I'm saying it was so taboo. Recently is an hero in she launched a new brand called nude cosmetic brand. Okay. She's promoting saying that Botox in a bottle. >> Oh really? I didn't know that she's a doctor herself also. >> Just recently passed out. >> Yeah. Yeah.
(57:50) >> Yeah. She has she started promoting the NJP and I'm saying how the world evolves bodybuilders even in the US they take and you become >> but that had a lot of side effects right so but lot of people in gym used to do it okay first unfortunately there'll be some issues It will come to the so-called elite of circles >> plus Hollywood first access right they'll say boss this is their because your your face is money
(58:37) >> your body is money that's how it is that is their they are their biggest asset so they invest on themselves rightollywood Silicon Valley it comes to there then it'll come to mere mortals like us later we are fourth instant >> in fact by the time it comes to us you can be decently assured >> right so I feelant boap GLP taboo all taboss are taboos till the society normalizes at some point society will say boss this is normal >> I think for many people and we know many people strugg struggling without solution. Yeah.
(59:23) >> So again coming back to the 150 your company. So as per my understanding to 15 years apart from the fact you live long people as you guys know we are also below No, no, no. That's how they used to talk, right?
(1:00:11) Father and mother used to talk. Imagine you have to keep yourself short. You have to work. Yeah. Hobby something you should have some kind of a study saying that we do. Okay. Let's take can do four hours of work maybe a day, right? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Passion, right? Age of abundance. What
(1:00:57) you do? You need passion. You need some hobbies. You need to do something else, right? Apart from work, you will still work. By the way, don't get me wrong. But >> you need other things to do. So having something other for you to keep going. It could be art, it could be sports, it could be anything you think, >> right? So at the age of abundance, you need to spend your bandwidth and time on other things.
(1:01:31) >> Right? So I feel there will be a era we will be alive to see it. I think 99% right where you will see the first man mission to Mars >> you will see the first people setting foot there you will see almost all diseases having some form of cure unless unfortunately you have something crazy that's that's come for the first time you will be in an age of abundance right but with all this will also come some sort of age of anarchy right see you cannot have a society with age of abundance where everyone has universal common income
(1:02:03) >> tough in a country like India Yeah. That is what actually as a thing that we should hope for. We should have some level of peace at some point of time. So studies case studies whatever it might be. So innovations of healthare 15 years so 101% at least
(1:02:51) yes point of what are the few more I mean farming will be Innovative AIdriven robotics, new innovation in terms of clean food and stuff and consumer brand. And number three, advanced metrics of AI growth in terms of new tech. Yes. And moreover I mean you need to pass this
(1:03:44) judgement for acting for recession proof sports and entertainment sport and and entertainment for people. It's a part of culture of course but
(1:04:29) there's a matrix of not only to% areas of where we can plug in okay right sport enter is one place >> you put you can see the rise of high like hyros is a classic example >> yes >> it is not an international it is a hyper local sport So in the age of abundance so you will have like community and sports right [clears throat] entertainment and community you will have trust based events how will you know
(1:05:18) how do you know so in the age of abundance and social media and content trust is the only that sells. >> So you can be in an area where you're building trust in any of your businesses >> that you're doing. That's the other way to look at it. So sports, entertainment and trust based community. [clears throat] >> These will be the three big areas in the future.
(1:05:39) >> And many VCs have a thesis on it. >> Okay. >> And podcast as an example, right? It's a distribution channel. Exactly. It's not really it's not entertainment. You're actually distributing good content, right? >> So podcasting has become a big thing now as you see. uh so I feel that this is also a way of building trust like you're doing podcast to build trust right with people so >> in if you look at the matrix of things that you can do it will fit into some of this >> right kind of hyperscalers and they have
(1:06:09) taken over most of you cannot beat them on distribution globally the world is moving more hyper local not even local it was hyper local we do something then all of us dispersed it went global but now the world is again coming back to the cocoon saying hyper local government so I feel that will be a big space in the future sports big space sports plus hyper local super big space right and sports plus wellness >> we know retreats as I was saying oko like the ones I told you are medical grade retreats Mhm.
(1:06:49) >> When you go to >> Lel retreats without a doctor but a medical spa type retreat >> and you go there to play >> you go to recover uh you do your spa and come back >> regenerate >> just recovery basy I don't know if you've seen the latest real estate plans if you remember every builder gave what in your Home office but I've been in the pandemic 6 years I don't want home office I don't want office only I want recovery center I
(1:07:34) want right I want red light right so all builders by the way are pivoting to make all that in the building >> so we feel that recovery real estate is going to become a very big spacem Mhm. Mhm. >> So that you can plug into where society as it moves you can plug into it. >> Yeah.
(1:07:56) Yeah. So what's the plan for the next 5 years for 150? I mean for a maybe >> five is a very long time. >> Okay. >> Two years venture companies right? We'll always have money for two to three years. >> Yes. >> Uh my goal is person in our in a protocol we have prevented something for them. M >> we have found out we have intervened it has helped them >> that is my first goal for the next two years that even if I have just 10 customers I tell one at least we should save them from something major >> and I'm confident we will >> and then already two three people who
(1:08:31) are working with us we know we are going to save them from something major that is one two as a company I'm hoping to employ hundreds of doctors if we only have five all going well I think medicine if it becomes at home and proactive not reactive you don't need heavy >> capex actually right so I am hoping everybody who goes to hospital who has to wait for 3 hours >> park somewhere and spend half a day to get one prescription >> it can be done at home >> so I'm hoping that we do preventive healthcare at home at very large scale
(1:09:13) and globally. EVM two plans. >> Sure. Fine. Uh thanks a lot Mr. I mean I think this I think this is a completely adversary thought process of action. So which is required for the market today. So many things is being done in the market but So which is required. So that is the reason of entire thought process why I have cured this segment I think we
(1:09:59) should know what's going on in the world. Okay. Chad GBD launched in 2022. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> And do you know when they were working on it from 8 years prior? >> Exactly. >> And these guys are 10 years ahead of [laughter] you in understanding what the world most of the people. So how you can create this entire thought process >> and we are very far I keep thinking that we should be ahead in some point right so hopefully healthare is one because I think you won't believe it world's best doctors
(1:10:44) experience is unbelievable 100 people multiple categories of people and multiple foods just imagine Just imagine how smart doctors in India are. They can supercharge healthare. >> That is the dream. >> Yes. Yes. >> Done. Done. Thanks a lot. All the very best. >> Thank you so much for once again coming here. >> No, our pleasure.
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Can humans really live for 150 years? What would it take to extend human life, and how could healthcare, medicine, and our approach to fitness change in the coming decades?
In this episode of The Real Podcast, Suhas sits down with Ajay Bulusu, Founder of 150, for a fascinating conversation about longevity, the evolution of healthcare, and the future of human life.
Ajay shares the story behind the idea of 150, how the journey began, and the mission driving the initiative. The conversation explores whether living longer could become a reality, the role of modern medicine, and the changes that may reshape healthcare over the next 10 years.
The discussion also examines the side effects of medicines, the growing popularity of weight-loss drugs, and how people are approaching fitness and health differently. Ajay shares perspectives on Gen Z's fitness mindset and the challenges of building healthier habits in a world increasingly influenced by convenience, medication, and changing lifestyles.
What will healthcare look like in the future? Will medical innovations help people live longer, and what should individuals do today to improve their chances of living healthier lives? The conversation explores these questions while looking at what it could take to make the 150 mission a reality.
From longevity and medicine to weight-loss drugs, healthcare innovation, and the future of human health, this episode challenges us to rethink how we live and what it means to live longer.
If you're interested in longevity, healthcare, fitness, medicine, health technology, or the future of human life, this episode is a must-watch.
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01:13 What Is 150?
03:06 Can Humans Live for 150 Years?
06:42 Side Effects of Tablets and Medication
13:08 The Idea Behind 150: Origin & Journey
21:48 How Healthcare Has Evolved
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34:20 Weight-Loss Drugs
42:04 Gen Z's Approach to Fitness
59:20 The 150 Mission: What Should Humans Do?
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(00:02) death probability goes down dramatically and claude has a bioarm now open as a bioarm now you know Microsoft has a bioarm for the first time doing [music] work that pharma companies were doing people with POTS or autoimmune or seris arthritis you know rheumatoid things that didn't have a cure at some point I have a feeling full [music] the best council I got was from actually [music] saying boss you have something called let's talk about GLP one and [music]
(00:48) drug holiday [music] one in five people use GLP do you know this >> yes one in 20 40 if you have no accidents and you are generally healthy from 40 you can go up to 2100 150 and 150 and it came up like a random number actually humans are alive today death probability goes goes down dramatically.
(01:30) So 100 will be a number anybody will achieve science is going to in my opinion it's not like you will be mobile you will be cognitively sharp hopefully active Right. Is there a way we can make people actually
(02:18) do it? It's not our job. There's a lot of people doing amazing research globally. Our job is to educate people on how to live healthily from the age of 40. And for us I think 35 to 40 is the sweet spot when you should start taking care of your health we are generally okay right you won't have any issues in general you just you know skim through but 40 in my friend circle including me and my friends also what I'm seeing is that personal neither parents you will start thinking about.
(03:02) Okay. And in that scenario 15 years actually and without death of different numbers if you're on bed it makes no sense, right? Here we will evolve to a stage where 200 if you have no accidents and you are generally healthy from 40 you can go up to 2100 >> easily from 2040 to 2100 >> you this generation who's already alive in this age will be alive our thesis >> okay is it genetically possible >> until there is some science to say even how long you will live is already
(03:45) predicted in your genes >> uh there's something called epigenetics we'll talk about it as we genetically let's talk let's talk see the way I explain this to you is genetics [clears throat] okay food exercise so epigenetics remodeling is what we are thinking about. It's not about genetic remodeling. You cannot change it.
(04:25) There are therapies right now in the US that we've heard of where people have gone edited their genes. >> We are not advanc We're not thinking. But 1% epigenetic change. >> Is it practically possible? >> I am not sure. I am not the scientific brain. Agreed. Agreed. But >> I think there is enough wealthy people who apparently done it. Right.
(04:46) They don't do it in US. In US is not allowed still. They will go to Honduras, Guatemala, etc. They will take the crew and they will do it there. There you ed it. There have been cases. I don't know. Uh but I think in the future it may be possible. >> There is nothing as of today that people are thinking is impossible.
(05:01) That's a good that's a good positive thing about the world actually today. So how do I avoid major genetic diseases? People don't want to know their genes. You ask the richest people also in India genetic test. I don't want to know. It's not about I don't want to know. You should know because if you don't know, how will you prevent? It'll be too late.
(05:29) Right? So that is the exact education we are giving people. >> Saying that see genetic. >> So what kind of a test is required for genetic testing? >> See genetic test is just a swab test. It's a saliva test. Right? Epigenetic is the more interesting one that goes to US. >> Okay. education the US also education is a little low this called pace of aging till lens even Harvard has published a lot of it even even we sent it to true age and Harvard only even how it how it goes it takes about 6 to 8 weeks to come okay
(05:55) >> it gives you a detailed report of actually how you're pacing okay example I insulin resistance home but epigenetic there's another marker HSCP or something like that right within that for a lot people combination of the epigenetic plus lifestyle is showing that you'll be pre-diabetic by 45. >> Okay.
(06:29) So for you what is the most important number as a human being to worry on is home 140 150 200 marks for its to lifestyle. Second one, if you drink a lot, if you eat lot of sweet, all of that, you are prone to higher lipids, prone to higher cardiovascular. But human beings are not disciplined. So our job as 150 is to fit into your
(07:21) life like that. lead but you need to take care of your health in some okay health I am sick I will go to doctor righta if you can prevent sickness >> or you can prevent I would say major sickness right let's say 80% of the people die with four things in general it's well researched again by Howard right >> uh to cardiovascular neuro there's mind there's one more thing right death sucker due to 80% 80% of deaths sucker due to these four things, heart health, brain health.
(08:05) So 10 years, right? You should maintain your car from the first day. So it runs for like 10, 20, 30 years. Same thing with human body. So we tell all our people 5 days healthy six day I'll drink a bottle of whiskey and that's your body is going to get like messed up. So >> have a balance that is the whole concept of 150 actually first baseline yourself >> understand deeply about your body we will do intervention specifically to help you manage certain diseases we know from your genetics two what is the probability of you getting
(08:48) it epigenetic system okay third your doctor is actually the guy who codes. So the way you look at software it's a model that tells you right will look at you like a single point of contact okay let's take an example but does he see anything else in your body not really but does he also know how the sinus medication affects your other organs.
(09:24) No, there is research of course on that but they will not look at it that way. >> Mhm. We look at the human body using that one holistic loop >> right and right from there's something called phoggenomics which so when people leave with us they have then what we've done okay a lot of people can give you summary in one place we are humans we forget How do you remember later on? So we have a a very simple WhatsApp agent or you can just query when you want.
(10:04) >> Mhm. >> Saying hey I am in Japan. I eating this fish. Okay. Is there a way uh is there allergy for me for this fish as a question. Right. Answer is no. A you don't have that gene specifically. Don't worry. You have no allergies. Also we've done a comprehensive allergy test for you. So don't worry.
(10:24) Eat it you know confidently. I am somewhere in US. I want to I have headache. I have this OTC Tylenol. like can I take it? It will say no you have a proof in modifier in your thing don't have to alternatively there's something else in US that is the level of hyperpersonal stuff that we're doing at 150 uh this is how we think that you can live healthily over a period of time not taking generic advice generic medicine generic anything I mean [clears throat] it is a large language no I'm not talking about the complete lm No partial format which can integrate
(11:02) and the language >> LLM summarizes your information. >> Yes, of course. >> Right. >> Data whatever it feed we feed >> right. So we don't have to build anything uh in between actually. In fact you have the data but we don't so we have hallucination checks and they should not give you a crazy advice that take this prescription all that we are building and I am building the guard rails today.
(11:26) I'm not trying to go and reinvent the >> no I completely agree in that scenario. So if I create a small particular agent from the same cloud which is there in available in the market I'll do some dexa scan and I'll do this testing the same thing it acts in a similar format acts in a similar format but it won't be the same >> see similar see another thing so when you query LLM like versus a a doctor queries LLM like versus I query LLM it's very different >> no you creates a templates very with a very good prompts maybe.
(12:01) >> Huh. So our uh in fact we don't even create the prompts like the doctor prompts using his doctor knowledge actually >> into the LLMs >> then outcomes a model and output to say okay for a male 39 family history this current blood marker this you give this protocol a protocol is right or wrong and who certify >> who certify whether that protocol is right or wrong >> it's like saying okay finan it can't work that there is a element of human in the loop so human in the loop assisted
(12:45) AI will fully summarize it for doctor if I show you my case gene ABCD epigenetic CDF focus mechanism who will certify it's a doctor. >> Okay. and mechanism is very important of how it's going through otherwise any will give you the ad you want language of process what made you to start this I used to be in maths I'm a math guy but overall tech guy
(13:28) >> overall tech and engineer plus you know very typical Telu profile I have >> but then around 2011 when I came back to Hyderabad engineering masters 2008 engineering 2009 masters 200 I was just doing some time then I started to get into tech I moved into Google maps >> then I got into maps for a long time Okay field maps if you're there you'll like it's a crazy good field actually it's a lot of fun whatever you do you seeing impact on a physical world today right
(14:13) place in the office it feels good right same way so in maps I work for a long time then Google long back hyper local delivery it is to give a digital layer to physical stores So then I got fired for whatever be the reasons. Then I went to Japan actually for a while. Indeed.com Indeed is the world's largest job search engine.
(14:46) >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Right. I worked at Indeed for one year and my now wife then girlfriend. Then we were very well set. We were about to get married. So then my life took me a full circle. I came back to grab to work for maps again. Google said boss third world countries I don't invest. >> Mhm. >> Australia, UK, US, Germany.
(15:17) Then there is something called open street maps. OSM then we built our own company in open street maps and open source. Then we sold it to many other companies. tech last 15 years I've been there two years back I lost dad actually dad 96 he had cancer drugopathy like 100% so my father 18 years he maintained himself very well but the thing is he just couldn't do it like anymore literally same time as all this in 22 23 and vegetarian non-drinker non-smoker
(16:04) grammin family loss colctal cancer it's very rare foods >> so when that came we didn't know how it came nobody answered how it came I said stage four straight stage four it was rectum and liver right so when we went to AIG they did a obviously they did a brilliant job of treating my mom but it was So uh and we were surprised there was element of surprise across the family.
(16:32) Then I said we should not be surprised we should know why this is happening. So I started digging into healthcare in 2023 like 24 like when the certified cure I'm like fine let us sit with AI let's start basic stuff that uploading the reports understanding querying querying querying understanding the science behind it.
(16:52) What I learned is the way AI can look at a person because it's computation right it is not single it is it's millions of things no doctor however good or bad can look at it >> uh at least the physician aspect of it >> obviously I can't do everything right doctors are way smarter than I but the way to summarize information to doctors only I was like fine I dug into healthare I put my own money when I sold my company for 6 8 months into this.
(17:22) >> Okay. >> And I just didn't want to raise money. I wanted to be like I want to prevent what happened to mom dad to other people's mom dad was my goal. It was more utopian goal. I would talk about this topic. First question everybody says then I how do I say I I can't say anything right? It's a very logical question.
(17:55) So I didn't feel bad. I'm like fine. So I I started putting out requisitions on LinkedIn >> saying I'm a I'm a second time founder. >> I'm experimenting at the intersection of healthare and AI. >> I will hire I will pay. I'll make sure you are there. And I got you won't believe it. Hundreds of rums. Hundreds.
(18:14) Not even tens. I am not a celebrity doctor. Neither am I a doctor. Okay. But the number of doctors who are frustrated by the way medicine is practiced today. You will not believe it. >> I interviewed hundreds of them actually. Then I understood that oh these guys are also very frustrated with the tools process and how hospitals treat them.
(18:39) factor. Mhm. >> And hospitals, right? They have to make money. >> So, but all doctors in their heart they want to prevent disease. If you ask any doctors, they should not fall sick because we studying to make sure right. So, philosophically whoever aligned with me, I hired them. Then when I started talking to my friends saying AI model okay fine then we started seeing results of friends right let's say biology is not like it's not code right biology takes time
(19:29) I'll give you a simple thing I like experimenting with weeks full body check 300 400 and the liver got poisoned through that medicine obviously you'll get scared then I told four beers on the weekend. It's impossible I have liver issue. No doctor could give me a single reason why it happened including TCM. Suddenly
(20:25) they are not caring doctors eight autoimmune tests almost biopsy fibro scan the best the best counsel I got was from actually AI engines saying boss you have something called drug induced liver injury okay DI it's in phase 2 alt 300 6x 7x of where you are almost 10x where you are you will take around 9 months to recover.
(20:56) 9 months of discipline, no alcohol, eating clean, taking supplements. Trust me, it is dot to dot 9 months. So I realized okay if these guys can summarize then and I queried more scientifically when I was querying saying okay give me PubMed research give me other cases like this you know query everything you can make a graph like being a tech we've built everything data specific it was right to the TND and you will not believe it okay engineer if I can do this imagine a doctor with this power >> if he curated the right way we can save hundreds of lives we can prevent
(21:35) hundreds of dreaded diseases to come to you but you have to be proactive I'll give you model and doctor humans okay that's a formation history of the company I mean as per your understanding we'll be in the market we in the market we doing just friends and family okay seemerce yeah no I agree last 3 4 months double I'm hiring the right team you raised it for this I raised around 2.6 6 million.
(22:11) Now we have some two three uh crane it's a big fund in London. >> Okay. Okay. >> Then two three big family friends they have put little bit money as well. They are also early believers in this thesis they want to prevent. >> Mhm. >> So uh we have taken about 25 people >> okay >> on the program exactly 3 months old >> all 25 I can call and they will say there is something that they have seen in their life they have not seen before.
(22:36) >> And they have not understood their body's correlations. 150 and day is it an app that's it >> it's a actually app is a is a medium but actually 150 is a protocoling system >> right so we have built somewhat of a blueprint to understand >> in terms of longit longivity formats of >> longitudinal data it's that actually for how do I take AJ over a period of 10 years and how do I predict what AJ can get when he's You can uh change your trajectories accordingly.
(23:16) >> Okay. So we are trying to build a longitudinal graph of your body >> of every human in fact >> and then see how do we prevent major disease they cannot remember so many things about you >> right they see hundreds of people but AI is the best memory in the world >> of course >> right >> it's a recording module >> and also the best summarization module in the world I can get AI is becoming [clears throat] better and better and better >> our job we are just that's a tip of a b when you're at the tip of the b we should be ready for it
(23:58) >> so and we are now readying the infrastructure that tomorrow you dump not one 5,000 reports about yourself 10 minutes we should be able to give you blueprint >> easy right and say [snorts] next month situation if he does this 3 months I guarantee with statistical significance. vitamin B6, B12 can't process these vitamins.
(24:45) Well, three types of vitamins on empty stomach. Okay. same RAM supplement R lip alphic acid it's a it's a it's a master antioxidant in your body >> nobody's in India's heard of it properly >> mh >> but many Indians need it >> for for lipid control uh for their you know general vitamin control absorption very important supplement to have >> oh >> but they don't know so [snorts] elani we're trying to tell people that Simple simple supplements over a period of time.
(25:31) Genetic related deficiencies function. It's not so easy by the way. Okay. People supplements are a big fraud. If you supplement the right way, it's not a fraud. >> But you should know what to supplement. >> Yeah. >> Right. Right? So we have all been accustomed to these conspiracy theories about it. Right? But when you look at the data, we don't have a single person today who said okay what you're talking is not making logical sense to me numbers plus Dr.
(26:04) like yes this this makes sense right you're able to tell me >> perspective all together again correct and you're able to tell me the mechanism and I they're all scientific aks okay after you just tell me but there's enough [snorts] science to prove it >> so it's very intriguing very interesting as you get into it >> then school.
(26:36) I'm fully studying with my doctors and I have luckily found an amazing set of five doctors now. >> Okay. >> Okay. Each one with a specialtity on their own individual. >> So we have endocrinologist for GLP1 and stuff like that. Uh we have a gut microbiome specialist because half the is actually I mean rapid change that is the first change we know some some people 3 weeks you will not believe it.
(27:11) Okay, they have seen acne, black it is not getting processed in the body. Take an example. Okay. >> It's calledomics. It's calledomics.cess. >> So when we give nutrition plan to our people, it is based on nutrienomics not on weight loss. >> Health coach nutrition. People are
(27:57) spending lakhs every month. They are spending lakhs to get a GP plan almost and without your genetics how will they tell you a plan. >> Agreed. >> Right. without knowing what my body can process. [laughter] You should be crazy to do it, right? People go to personal trainer, go to gym, spend their effort and money because that will give you discipline.
(28:36) >> Yes. The reason people come to 150 is also sort of like that and we are a premier product and our tests are expensive premier it cost you money right so >> how it it starts is the subscription model or how it is like it's a 8 week and a 12e protocol maximum one year to start J >> all our first 24 one year protocol and while they want a conc medicine service right they don't want to uh they don't want to think.
(29:12) They're like boss every month. Typical >> we realizing money is not the constraint for many people. Discipline is right and double. So we like boss we'll condense this whole thing. So there's only one one and a half lakh thing that we do and epigenetics is expensive test. Okay. That how much that cost? One lakh. Okay.
(29:43) Next is three lakhs. Mhm. >> Okay. What is this? So we want to spend some time >> explaining. So you change your life as you deem fit. >> Yeah. Yeah. Same way in we give extensive nutrition >> like plan for the next few months. >> Understood. >> Right. In fact for some of our concent but that is in very alpha stages right now but two and a half you'll get your full about health blueprint is in your hands.
(30:25) You'll know what to eat, what medicines to take, your current baselines, all your genetic risks and how to avoid it and supplementation plan. All six you will get in one outcome. >> Epigenetics, we can go one more step deep. >> Mhm. >> If somebody literally that is as much of a small intervention you can do. M >> so that I cannot avoid your genetic problems. Okay.
(31:01) Because you're born with it, I can delay it. Understood. [clears throat] We can extend our life to another 50 to 60 years. So as per your ideology and since you working with the multiple possibilities I can sense it correct end of end of the day I'm a pharmacy guy >> I mean next I think as per my doctor see there is one tech narrative and cloud has a biocom now open has a bioarm now you know Microsoft has a biocom so they are for the first time doing work that pharma companies were
(31:48) doing right in terms of how do we fuse technology and medicine together and that will be I don't know if you know he started isomorphic labs right he's trying to treat diseases that are non-commercial or rather right because of abundance of technology and comput that is one big change I'm going to see over the next 10 years.
(32:20) Right? So people with POTS or autoimmune or soriasis, arthritis, you know, rheumatoid things that didn't have a cure. >> They had maintenance treatments. >> Yeah. >> Right. One quality of life. Just imagine a person with arthritis getting some level of 80% relief in cure. It is humongous for them, right? Those things will come in the next 10 years.
(32:45) two extremely complicated diseases, right? Again, no research, no work done, etc. But you know, uh somebody has done something only because they're enthusiastic about it. But first time AI is able to design cures. It's able to design some proteins. It able to design things that humans could not design. >> Mhm. >> Same thing.
(33:10) Similar brain and multiple brains at once, right? E2. Third cancer at some point I have a feeling full-fledged cure. Oh >> okay. It may not be for extremely complicated cancer [clears throat] but already extremely simple but I have cancer that's that's again not because of us because of environment stress pollution our supply is contaminated painful chemo radiation there will be something I feel fourth is vaccines to prevent many of these things are also getting designed as we was a big epidemic, you know, right?
(33:54) Yes. Yes. >> So I feel and I have a feeling other cancers will get vaccinative. It's possible again because of technology and medicine fusing. >> It's not because of just uh the pharma companies doing like you know more work. So I'm very optimistic. >> Understood. Let's talk about GLP one as of the reason usage of GP is not as of
(34:40) today. I mean what you call international budgets. So let's talk about that. So again I don't want to talk to doctor perspective but on a pure science perspective from what I understand from my doctors wonder drug for certain people right pre-diabetic diabetic imps
(35:33) One in five people use GLP. Do you know this? That's it. >> Yes. One in five. Every household almost a GLP customer is there. Okay. I'll give you one trivia data point. Uh AI spend consumer spend in US tools. Just take a number. Oh, 20 30 billion. 2030 billion right GLP 76 billion >> 76 billion >> on GP okay just imagine consumer mind so just I'm saying
(36:31) it's a much more gray area. one peptide and see we should think of GLP as a peptide no >> there are multiple peptides there's BPC157 TB 500 copper peptide semank >> all of this in US the spend is more than 76 billion >> because people just buy online it comes home you inject it and you feel good but BPC recovery I personally first degree know it is 20 people using it >> right is it doctor given no because doctor's not certified to give you BPC right yeah >> the only country in the world today that is forming a government law ministry
(37:09) etc. Dubai on this. Okay. Dubai is a longevity ministry now. There's a proper ministry. >> Yeah. Recently, recently, just three, four months back, maybe unregulated regulator, right? You at least get the best suppliers in the world to do these peptides for you. But GLP, I feel coming back to GLP as a point if you tick certain markers, >> there is no harm in using it.
(37:34) And if you're at risk, in fact, if you're obese, it is it is better to use than not to use. The other repercussions of obesity when you get they are much higher than >> no recently again published by Harvard GLP GLP ketos along with the peptide of 3 to four weeks I mean supplements along with these supplements All of us
(38:22) food has been designed by food scientists, not by some some farmer. Right? So, uh why do you like chips? Why do you like it so much? Pringles. Can you stop at one? You can't stop at one Pringle. Same with chocolates, same with any of this ultrarocessed food that all of us have been eating >> for the last 15 years and we all >> how do you give the craving to human being they have also put something in that to reverse GLP and make you eat more.
(38:58) >> Yeah. So actually we should not there is all sorts of repercussions for it. Yesord we know some some cases of GLP right it means that GLP is trying to cut >> your craving for salt sugar food and probably that's how We were not born that time, right? We don't know how our grandparents eat and what they ate.
(39:33) >> Yeah. >> But the reality today is about GLP if it is used in the right way combined with nutrition, >> it's extremely effective for quick weight loss also cutting of craving. >> Mhm. >> And for millions of people just by the way, they have been obese since they were a kid. Definitely helpful.
(40:01) But social media that's not the right thing to do. You should have a good endocrinologist to guide you. You should have a good nutritionist to do it. I saw an ad by a company that I don't want to name. While while ad said upcoming wedding lose 5 kilos, I have GLP program. [laughter] I'm not joking. I had put it on my LinkedIn saying this marketing is ridiculous.
(40:24) GLP. Why vanity what is there right those things I I don't encourage I don't think you should do you'll stop or you'll continue right but these are the kind of snake oil selling so now it's 1 but like you've seen it's Uhhuh. 65% of distributor stock is lying. Yeah. >> So many articles of India put every pharmacy you can get if you
(41:09) want. But my other prediction for the next 10 years for all of us on what basis? Just to cut appetite, just to eat lesser, just to get healthy and all of us are we love food even I love food right I have debated many times but I don't qualify like my own doctors don't give me GP even if I want >> and BMI 23 >> okay >> there there are certain tick marks you have to do I'm not pre-diabetic >> so my BMI is 23 they But it is definitely extremely helpful
(41:58) for people. But pros cons are more prone to this fitness thought process. Millennials but at some level high spending 80 80 to 20%. >> So it's it's all about the thought process or upgradation of mindset or >> they and they see every generation has its quirks.
(42:41) >> Yes. Yes. Right. Our generation my dad used to say because we will go right but that's how we grew up because all of us right it was deary actually even today by the way as you said >> all of us evening okay we get let's get a drink is a normal thing but with jenzi I think they grew up being more self-aware one they You drove with much more money.
(43:14) Much more money, much more knowledge. But the thing is Gen Z as you said they grew up in social media. Yes. basic maturity levels up social media everything in the hand >> that has its pros it has its cons like all of us have our pros and our cons in every generation but I feel that they are insanely into fitness which is great in a way because >> if you you will live till 150 if you eat less also your lifespan will go up right you are doing all this for
(44:00) what and take one reason why are you staying fit >> and why do people stay fit >> health >> health and they want to live >> healthy >> I'm not saying they want to live longer >> they want to live healthily okay but just by running and doing gym you can't live healthily >> you have to understand inside the body what's going on right so I think with jenzi I really appreciate that they have cut out alcohol from their life fully >> uh that's why they have gotten a rise to new things right you put for example the hottest CPG trend in US is protein
(44:33) waters No, >> you know liquid IVs, >> kombuchas, consumer market going to skyrocket in the next 20 years. >> Even India consumerism is just picking up. >> Yes. >> I had gone to Vita Foods and Bangkok expo. Yeah. >> It's crazy. Okay. This type of stuff I saw sublingual strips, gummies even these are new form factors of supplements only.
(44:59) >> Yes. Yes. Yes. And that's what the consumer >> now they calling it as a neutrautical nothing more than >> that's what the consumer wants on exactly consumer royal salute or black right in my bottle and I'm not joking my friends also because you won't get anything in India and it's so amazing right I carry these many supplements for agree agree agree many I mean yes latest climatic.
(45:32) I don't know if you heard of something called climatic. Okay, it's it's a vape, healthy vape. It has one pill inside. It clears your lungs. There's a new in thing in US, right? That is how our generation also is evolving. As we reach 40, nobody cares what you drink, what you do, how much you go out. That's also because we've also abused our bodies a lot.
(46:10) But also the generation is changing. >> Health and wellness is the number one spend in anyone's anyone's life. Uh you see the richest people in the world today, everyone has a health tech startup. Everyone name it they have health tech startup right from the founder of Coinbase to Airbnb to even bezos name it only certain level of money it doesn't make any difference you don't want to go to hospital three things people pray for right every billion Brian Johnston actually butillionaire
(46:58) focus right so at the end of it do a basic query saying who are all the billionaires invested in healthare today you will find everyone so India next yeah you see I mean the growth towards this hierox [clears throat] it's not Hierrox training gyms. I know friends who do it. But you know after a certain age in general all of us right the number of people who do cold plunges
(47:47) now in my friend circle skyrocketed. The number of people who regularly gym, by the way, this is not likely only go and drink. [laughter] That has become a part of your growing up culture. But I think is a very interesting generation to tap into. Okay. Uh I have some friends in Singapore who are just graduated and we took a nightclub.
(48:30) That was our dream, right? She was so she was telling me something interesting. They spent totally on themselves and they will book a $4,000 retreat in Kosamui. [laughter] No, this unheard of. So I'm saying I was amused who are 22 to 25. But the fact is they have the money also because their parents have earned very well generation [snorts] probably one compounding fathers and grandfathers zero compounding right are extremely wealthy today right but in
(49:16) general India so when you look at it as a macro trend by the time Gen Z came from 98 when they were born right they are two generations of wealth has been guaranteed House is already there. Car already there. Make foreign trips already there. Education abroad already there.
(49:34) So what do you do? All these four were not there for me. So you earned it sort of right. They already came with it. >> Yes. >> So for them health, health, fitness, wellness was their fifth pivot, right? That's how I think the world is going to evolve. I think a lot of people said I don't want to work tomorrow. >> I mean the hierarchman Indian version there's an iron man.
(49:54) The five weeks of sun continues roughly 8 hours it will take all to go. >> I did a retreat beautiful resort. It's a pure health wellness retreat that is been there for a long time. >> How many days? >> I went for three nights. >> Okay. >> It's and you're called when you go there you all wear white and you know and >> it's a hyper curated three-day program.
(50:15) >> Okay. >> Food is fully taken care of. Every day you have a spa, massage and dock consultation. I was blown away. I'm like this is so good. What's the name? >> It's called Wana. Vana there are a few in India >> abroad. Okay. You spend maybe a lakh a night here. Take a wild [snorts] guess what a 4 day for 5 day in Austria or something cost you to do something like this.
(50:43) Take a guess. It'll at least 10 to10 to 40,000 is what you spend for a week and they are booked out. You will not believe it. You will not clinic there is few more like the China there are few in the world that you can pick wellness Mexico and Spain. >> These are exclusive and these are not meant for you to just book and go. Yeah.
(51:11) >> Uh but just imagine these are running full they are opening all over the world. So if there is one big trend apart from AI in the world consumer spend mindset wallet share a lot of it is going to wellness. In fact, when we sit down with our people and say one and a half to three lakhs, oh my you man who spends one and a half three lakhs but you sit with them ask way more than that they're already spending [laughter] spending way more actually than that
(51:58) right you think You're a part of this thing. One and a half to three. Are you mad? Right. But today it may seem but in tomorrow it will become normal. People will say, right? There's no consolidation of all the numbers. 2021 will be bad. Yes. Right. telling people you need a memory
(52:47) stock market. We create the memory for you. With the memory, we give a clinical context for you. >> Third is the offering is a outcome to say we optimize the epigenetics and biomarkers. >> Okay. And other than that, I mean, I heard something else. I mean, hormone replacement HRTs are by the way, especially women, right? There is enough science to prove that.
(53:28) Mhm. Can you please detail at least just for a basic insight? As your hormones change from what I understand from my doctor progesterone body as you age even for menesto Right. >> Okay. See, they're metabolically blessed. They don't need any recycling,
(54:13) right? But not everyone is the same. In fact, there are some amazing case studies. Perry menopause, menopause, premenopause. E3 conditions. >> Hormone replacement therapy is much better than doing other things. >> But willingness to do it's not experimental. there's enough data like behind this they'll infuse they'll infuse infuse yeah okay and I think they sort of recycle or something I I am not fully sure of the process it's we have spoken about this to many women here India it's a low trust society >> we have we have grown up unfortunately
(54:50) in a very low society right you go ask anyone you know raising is never the US low hey you know you know what's he doing yeah I think it's good it's a high trust so Japan high trust society Germany >> it will take many years to understand the possibilities it's all brought up I think so >> it is true right because we've sort of grown up in that society right uh and I don't blame anyone of for thinking the other person is a fraud.
(55:24) >> Yes. >> Make last year 22,000 crores were lost due to phone frauds in India. >> Phone frauds. Okay. >> Phone scam. >> Okay. [laughter] It's a lot of money. >> Agree. >> So when you're in a society where people are calling and scamming you, right? So I feel it will come there. uh but for women there is a lot of science what my doctors are telling me they should do it >> if things are not looking good uh so I feel it is a again as with everything in India Botox by the way
(56:17) you take a wild Hyderabad. Okay. >> Tier twoh >> tier two. >> Tier two. >> Uhra vijada vijada. >> It has beat in Bombay. >> I'm just saying right there's so much money in this tier actually tier 2 India has a lot of money. >> Of course the spending cap is supposed to be huge but everybody wants what is there. I was blown away.
(56:52) I was just born again. I don't have the data. Somebody who owns athetic clinics. He told me this. Now I'll take him at face value. Yeah. Yeah. >> I was blown away. Bombay, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Delhi. Come on. Bombay. to this stat. >> I don't know what it is. He told me that number.
(57:23) I don't know what context that number is. I believed him. I'm like then that's crazy. >> But I'm saying it was so taboo. Recently is an hero in she launched a new brand called nude cosmetic brand. Okay. She's promoting saying that Botox in a bottle. >> Oh really? I didn't know that she's a doctor herself also. >> Just recently passed out. >> Yeah. Yeah.
(57:50) >> Yeah. She has she started promoting the NJP and I'm saying how the world evolves bodybuilders even in the US they take and you become >> but that had a lot of side effects right so but lot of people in gym used to do it okay first unfortunately there'll be some issues It will come to the so-called elite of circles >> plus Hollywood first access right they'll say boss this is their because your your face is money
(58:37) >> your body is money that's how it is that is their they are their biggest asset so they invest on themselves rightollywood Silicon Valley it comes to there then it'll come to mere mortals like us later we are fourth instant >> in fact by the time it comes to us you can be decently assured >> right so I feelant boap GLP taboo all taboss are taboos till the society normalizes at some point society will say boss this is normal >> I think for many people and we know many people strugg struggling without solution. Yeah.
(59:23) >> So again coming back to the 150 your company. So as per my understanding to 15 years apart from the fact you live long people as you guys know we are also below No, no, no. That's how they used to talk, right?
(1:00:11) Father and mother used to talk. Imagine you have to keep yourself short. You have to work. Yeah. Hobby something you should have some kind of a study saying that we do. Okay. Let's take can do four hours of work maybe a day, right? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Passion, right? Age of abundance. What
(1:00:57) you do? You need passion. You need some hobbies. You need to do something else, right? Apart from work, you will still work. By the way, don't get me wrong. But >> you need other things to do. So having something other for you to keep going. It could be art, it could be sports, it could be anything you think, >> right? So at the age of abundance, you need to spend your bandwidth and time on other things.
(1:01:31) >> Right? So I feel there will be a era we will be alive to see it. I think 99% right where you will see the first man mission to Mars >> you will see the first people setting foot there you will see almost all diseases having some form of cure unless unfortunately you have something crazy that's that's come for the first time you will be in an age of abundance right but with all this will also come some sort of age of anarchy right see you cannot have a society with age of abundance where everyone has universal common income
(1:02:03) >> tough in a country like India Yeah. That is what actually as a thing that we should hope for. We should have some level of peace at some point of time. So studies case studies whatever it might be. So innovations of healthare 15 years so 101% at least
(1:02:51) yes point of what are the few more I mean farming will be Innovative AIdriven robotics, new innovation in terms of clean food and stuff and consumer brand. And number three, advanced metrics of AI growth in terms of new tech. Yes. And moreover I mean you need to pass this
(1:03:44) judgement for acting for recession proof sports and entertainment sport and and entertainment for people. It's a part of culture of course but
(1:04:29) there's a matrix of not only to% areas of where we can plug in okay right sport enter is one place >> you put you can see the rise of high like hyros is a classic example >> yes >> it is not an international it is a hyper local sport So in the age of abundance so you will have like community and sports right [clears throat] entertainment and community you will have trust based events how will you know
(1:05:18) how do you know so in the age of abundance and social media and content trust is the only that sells. >> So you can be in an area where you're building trust in any of your businesses >> that you're doing. That's the other way to look at it. So sports, entertainment and trust based community. [clears throat] >> These will be the three big areas in the future.
(1:05:39) >> And many VCs have a thesis on it. >> Okay. >> And podcast as an example, right? It's a distribution channel. Exactly. It's not really it's not entertainment. You're actually distributing good content, right? >> So podcasting has become a big thing now as you see. uh so I feel that this is also a way of building trust like you're doing podcast to build trust right with people so >> in if you look at the matrix of things that you can do it will fit into some of this >> right kind of hyperscalers and they have
(1:06:09) taken over most of you cannot beat them on distribution globally the world is moving more hyper local not even local it was hyper local we do something then all of us dispersed it went global but now the world is again coming back to the cocoon saying hyper local government so I feel that will be a big space in the future sports big space sports plus hyper local super big space right and sports plus wellness >> we know retreats as I was saying oko like the ones I told you are medical grade retreats Mhm.
(1:06:49) >> When you go to >> Lel retreats without a doctor but a medical spa type retreat >> and you go there to play >> you go to recover uh you do your spa and come back >> regenerate >> just recovery basy I don't know if you've seen the latest real estate plans if you remember every builder gave what in your Home office but I've been in the pandemic 6 years I don't want home office I don't want office only I want recovery center I
(1:07:34) want right I want red light right so all builders by the way are pivoting to make all that in the building >> so we feel that recovery real estate is going to become a very big spacem Mhm. Mhm. >> So that you can plug into where society as it moves you can plug into it. >> Yeah.
(1:07:56) Yeah. So what's the plan for the next 5 years for 150? I mean for a maybe >> five is a very long time. >> Okay. >> Two years venture companies right? We'll always have money for two to three years. >> Yes. >> Uh my goal is person in our in a protocol we have prevented something for them. M >> we have found out we have intervened it has helped them >> that is my first goal for the next two years that even if I have just 10 customers I tell one at least we should save them from something major >> and I'm confident we will >> and then already two three people who
(1:08:31) are working with us we know we are going to save them from something major that is one two as a company I'm hoping to employ hundreds of doctors if we only have five all going well I think medicine if it becomes at home and proactive not reactive you don't need heavy >> capex actually right so I am hoping everybody who goes to hospital who has to wait for 3 hours >> park somewhere and spend half a day to get one prescription >> it can be done at home >> so I'm hoping that we do preventive healthcare at home at very large scale
(1:09:13) and globally. EVM two plans. >> Sure. Fine. Uh thanks a lot Mr. I mean I think this I think this is a completely adversary thought process of action. So which is required for the market today. So many things is being done in the market but So which is required. So that is the reason of entire thought process why I have cured this segment I think we
(1:09:59) should know what's going on in the world. Okay. Chad GBD launched in 2022. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> And do you know when they were working on it from 8 years prior? >> Exactly. >> And these guys are 10 years ahead of [laughter] you in understanding what the world most of the people. So how you can create this entire thought process >> and we are very far I keep thinking that we should be ahead in some point right so hopefully healthare is one because I think you won't believe it world's best doctors
(1:10:44) experience is unbelievable 100 people multiple categories of people and multiple foods just imagine Just imagine how smart doctors in India are. They can supercharge healthare. >> That is the dream. >> Yes. Yes. >> Done. Done. Thanks a lot. All the very best. >> Thank you so much for once again coming here. >> No, our pleasure.
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