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00:00:00.160 They said two girls are missing. They

00:00:02.000 file habius corpus in the high court.

00:00:04.240 >> I've seen that. Huh?

00:00:04.799 >> A habius corpus means what? Missing.

00:00:06.400 They appeared. It should be over. But

00:00:08.320 it's not over.

00:00:10.480 >> There is a video which went viral of a

00:00:12.320 woman. She was running around the

00:00:13.519 ashroom and 2 days later she was found

00:00:15.200 dead. What? I don't want to discuss

00:00:17.440 that. It's her family. I'll tell you. I

00:00:19.439 know you are hesitating to ask him

00:00:20.960 question. So let me tell you. No, I

00:00:22.640 don't have any station.

00:00:26.800 Sguru on Raw Talks with VK, the force

00:00:29.439 behind Isha Foundation, one of the

00:00:31.519 largest volunteer run organizations in

00:00:33.680 the world.

00:00:38.239 Why don't you come? I'm planning to come

00:00:39.920 this year. You're planning

00:00:42.640 coming. It's all right.

00:00:48.719 2000 factory building

00:00:52.079 I'll tell you the story in this country

00:00:54.559 there's a huge agenda to destroy

00:00:57.440 anything that belongs to these

00:00:59.440 civilizations that's a big statement

00:01:01.120 >> yes it is especially spiritual process

00:01:03.120 they want to kill it because that's

00:01:04.799 where the strength is you know to what

00:01:06.880 extent they are going they are coming

00:01:08.799 and offering a few thousand rupees to

00:01:10.640 the forest god and saying chase one

00:01:16.240 they don't mind if a few dozen People

00:01:18.640 die.

00:01:20.000 >> They want to be famous. That's why 23rd

00:01:23.280 September 1982 Hills. Can you know what

00:01:26.240 happened on that day? The enlightenment.

00:01:28.000 >> You cannot know. I have taken thousands

00:01:30.400 of acres of forest. I said come I'll

00:01:32.799 give you all the facility. Show me 1 in

00:01:35.759 I will disappear. You'll say that Saburu

00:01:38.400 is so powerful that he can manage the

00:01:39.920 law as well. Our justice system also

00:01:42.320 unfortunately running like this. I know

00:01:43.840 I can get into trouble for this

00:01:45.280 statement but I will say it. It's okay.

00:01:47.759 They say I've never been to a police

00:01:50.079 station or a court in my entire life and

00:01:52.079 the foundation has never been accused of

00:01:53.920 any crime. So what are you talking about

00:01:55.520 criminal cases just like that to

00:01:58.079 balance? What nonsense balance are you

00:02:00.640 doing? Huh? A Krishna came.

00:02:02.560 >> He manages to speak to one guy and that

00:02:05.200 fool has so many doubts. A Jesus came.

00:02:07.920 He speaks to 12 people and one guy

00:02:10.160 freaked on him.

00:02:11.520 >> This is the first time we can sit here

00:02:13.200 and talk to the entire world. When there

00:02:15.280 is such a possibility, if we do not

00:02:17.840 transform human life, it simply means we

00:02:20.640 have no love in our hearts. I am not

00:02:22.800 that person. That's all.

00:02:25.840 I thought I'm hot. You're making me

00:02:27.520 cold.

00:02:34.000 People that is because he has a brain.

00:02:37.760 What is sticking away here is not the

00:02:39.599 watch. It's life which is sticking away.

00:02:42.560 Can I tell you a joke, please?

00:02:46.000 Now the airport traffic is ours. We put

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00:02:52.080 feel. You call this marketing. You think

00:02:54.400 I'm that stupid? Do I look that stupid

00:02:56.560 to you?

00:03:03.360 You sang something.

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00:05:32.320 Namaskar satu.

00:05:33.280 >> Namaskarum.

00:05:34.160 >> First of all, thank you very much for

00:05:35.280 the opportunity. while I was actually

00:05:37.280 going through your journey. 2024

00:05:40.639 couple of surgeries.

00:05:47.199 I thought

00:05:52.160 I banged my head here and there a little

00:05:54.000 bit. So, literally you banged there.

00:05:57.520 Okay. When did you know that uh there's

00:05:59.759 some something serious with your uh

00:06:01.360 head?

00:06:03.039 >> I knew in mid January. Mhm.

00:06:06.880 >> So I because I was getting excruciating

00:06:10.080 pain in the head,

00:06:12.400 I didn't take any painkillers because I

00:06:14.479 wanted to know

00:06:15.840 >> if something is happening, I must know.

00:06:17.280 If I take painkiller, you don't know.

00:06:20.000 >> So I was to leave for United States on

00:06:22.160 March 16th and I kept one month free so

00:06:24.880 that I'll fix myself.

00:06:27.520 >> But schedules became too much. Then I

00:06:30.639 went through many programs and then

00:06:33.199 there's Mahashivatri

00:06:35.360 that was on 8th of March and then I had

00:06:39.919 to fly to Chennai then to Delhi and

00:06:42.560 there was one event and by then the pain

00:06:45.840 had become even during Mahasharatri it

00:06:48.479 was throbbing

00:06:49.759 >> my right side was almost paralyzed

00:06:52.960 >> but I went through all that most people

00:06:54.800 didn't realize that I'm going through

00:06:56.880 that

00:06:58.240 >> then Delhi the doctor said you should

00:07:00.400 not do this.

00:07:02.080 >> But uh you know I had committed I said

00:07:04.000 this a private event I will do.

00:07:05.840 >> Then the next day was the India today

00:07:08.479 interview.

00:07:10.400 >> I was sitting in the interview and

00:07:12.160 doctor said no way you cannot do this at

00:07:14.400 all

00:07:15.280 >> because by then my median had moved 11

00:07:18.160 mm to one side.

00:07:20.880 If it I'm sorry 8 mm to one side. If it

00:07:24.160 becomes 12 it's fatal.

00:07:27.360 I said still 4 mm are there let me do

00:07:30.080 this I try to excuse myself I never have

00:07:33.440 canled any event that I've ever

00:07:35.680 >> committed to I don't go late nor do I

00:07:38.800 cancel ever

00:07:40.880 >> so uh I called up the owners of the

00:07:45.199 channel and said you know I have some

00:07:46.880 family engagement and I cannot do this I

00:07:50.479 said sguru how can you do this everybody

00:07:52.400 has bought the tickets they're coming

00:07:53.840 only for you if you don't come the whole

00:07:55.919 event will collapse

00:07:56.879 >> right

00:07:57.199 >> I said okay I'll do it doctor said no

00:08:00.240 >> you cannot do it

00:08:02.160 >> I said doctor it's only 45 minutes let

00:08:04.319 me do

00:08:05.039 >> right

00:08:05.680 >> doctor also came to the event because he

00:08:07.599 was so scared he was sitting there

00:08:09.440 wideeyed because he's so afraid what

00:08:11.520 will happen

00:08:12.080 >> right

00:08:12.800 >> 45 minutes over the anchor wants to ask

00:08:16.160 one more question one more question

00:08:18.639 already by the time I cross 25 30

00:08:21.120 minutes my left leg is beginning to move

00:08:22.960 by itself it's it's dancing a a little

00:08:26.160 bit. I knew

00:08:27.360 >> during the conversation.

00:08:28.240 >> Huh? During the during the conversation

00:08:30.560 and uh I know I have crossed all lines

00:08:34.640 when it got over I just came out. Doctor

00:08:37.839 was looking at me like this because he

00:08:39.360 noticed the leg moving and uh I said

00:08:42.320 doctor I have crossed all lines. You do

00:08:44.159 whatever you want with me. He took me

00:08:46.240 straight in. When they did the MRI it

00:08:50.080 was 11.5 mm. I was 0.5 mm away from

00:08:55.120 fatality.

00:08:56.000 >> Oh my god.

00:08:59.040 >> So I did that and I went for the surgery

00:09:01.680 and that came out successful. Well,

00:09:04.320 surgeries are not easy. You know, you go

00:09:06.000 through lots of things.

00:09:08.800 >> Then they told me I should not drive for

00:09:11.760 6 months, not sit on a motorcycle for 2

00:09:14.480 years. M

00:09:16.320 >> well after 18 days or so when I landed

00:09:19.920 in quator I drove from the airport

00:09:22.800 >> sguru being sguru

00:09:24.480 >> no that's not the thing the thing is

00:09:26.880 this it's very easy to yourself

00:09:30.800 out of your own attitudes this is what

00:09:33.279 most people have done to their lives

00:09:35.680 >> so I was recovering well I had uh we had

00:09:40.240 registered people from across the world

00:09:42.800 >> for a program 4 days in Bali and three

00:09:45.839 days in Cambodia.

00:09:47.839 >> It's a special program. People have

00:09:50.640 enrolled easy for me to cancel but you

00:09:53.279 know for them it's once in a lifetime

00:09:55.200 kind of experience.

00:09:57.040 >> So I said I will do it.

00:10:00.080 >> There was lots of physical things I

00:10:01.519 canceled all that I made somebody else

00:10:03.839 take care of that and I said only the

00:10:05.680 class part I will handle.

00:10:06.959 >> Got it. which went well

00:10:09.680 and uh because I needed exercise but

00:10:12.240 almost a month I have not been moving

00:10:13.680 around so I started swimming I plastered

00:10:17.279 myself with a plastic thing and I was

00:10:19.600 swimming with my daughter

00:10:21.200 >> Mhm.

00:10:22.320 >> We just sat outside the pool

00:10:24.720 >> I was sitting on a chair like this she

00:10:26.480 was sitting down there.

00:10:27.519 >> Mhm.

00:10:28.399 >> And one big monkey came

00:10:31.519 and it was trying to enter the room and

00:10:33.440 she screamed at the monkey.

00:10:35.040 >> Your daughter?

00:10:35.760 >> Yeah.

00:10:36.160 >> Okay. The monkey attacked her big monkey

00:10:38.800 with its mouth open like that. I have

00:10:40.800 seen monkey injuries. It can rip off

00:10:42.480 your face.

00:10:43.040 >> Oh my god.

00:10:44.000 >> So I forgot all this this thing. Not

00:10:46.720 that I forgot I knew. But I had kept a

00:10:50.160 stick just inside the room.

00:10:52.000 >> Mhm.

00:10:52.880 >> Because I was walking with a stick at

00:10:54.480 that time

00:10:55.920 >> and it's a full glass sheet door. I had

00:10:58.640 kept it open. Somebody has closed it. So

00:11:02.320 I ran to pick up the stick and went

00:11:04.240 straight into the glass head first.

00:11:07.360 Boom. The monkey ran away. So much

00:11:10.240 noise.

00:11:12.079 And I thought I will fly back to Delhi

00:11:14.079 and see what the doctors can do.

00:11:17.440 But then there were three more days of

00:11:18.880 program. Oh

00:11:19.839 >> I said let me wait and see till tomorrow

00:11:21.920 morning. If there are no symptoms let me

00:11:23.600 do it. Then there were no symptoms. So I

00:11:26.959 went to Cumbia did the 3-day program. I

00:11:29.760 landed in combat at 11:30 in the night.

00:11:32.640 >> Oh my god.

00:11:33.279 >> Straight to MRI.

00:11:35.760 Heavy bleeding inside.

00:11:39.200 So again I went for another emergency

00:11:41.279 surgery. I came here to Hyderabad.

00:11:44.320 >> Oh.

00:11:45.040 >> Then uh 3 months I recovered.

00:11:48.399 >> So for the surgery you've been to

00:11:49.519 Hyderabad.

00:11:50.240 >> Second surgery.

00:11:51.120 >> Okay. The second. Yeah.

00:11:52.720 >> So I recovered in 3 months. The day they

00:11:56.079 stopped the sedatives. H

00:11:58.399 >> that day I got in the motorcycle

00:12:01.920 and within two months I rode from

00:12:04.399 Tennessee to Toronto, Toronto to

00:12:06.399 Vancouver, Vancouver and back.

00:12:09.680 Then I wrote to Kalash.

00:12:11.839 >> This is not to prove anything.

00:12:14.720 It's important that you don't

00:12:16.639 yourself. M

00:12:17.920 >> very easily people can do if they fall

00:12:20.320 down once if they break one bone after

00:12:22.320 that they'll never do this that again

00:12:25.839 because uh that's not the way life is.

00:12:30.000 >> If you carry your baggage of yesterday

00:12:33.040 to tomorrow you'll have nothing of

00:12:35.279 tomorrow left. Mhm.

00:12:37.680 >> So here I am doing well programs

00:12:39.839 everything my activity has doubled since

00:12:42.560 then because this 4 month break that I

00:12:46.320 took post these two surgeries 4 and a

00:12:48.800 half month break.

00:12:49.839 >> Mhm.

00:12:50.320 >> So probably everybody in the foundation

00:12:52.560 thinks I've been on a holiday so they

00:12:54.800 doubled the schedules.

00:12:58.480 >> It's going on no problem.

00:13:00.639 >> But uh

00:13:06.320 people people that is because he has a

00:13:08.240 brain. Those people don't have a brain

00:13:11.680 and they don't live in this world. They

00:13:14.560 they live on stupid ideas of miracles.

00:13:19.040 >> They don't live with their sense or

00:13:20.560 intelligence.

00:13:21.680 >> That's why I'm saying they don't have a

00:13:23.040 brain. That's why they think, "Oh, how

00:13:24.560 can Sguru's head break? Anybody bang

00:13:27.519 their head on the rock, it'll break."

00:13:29.680 I'm telling you.

00:13:38.800 I know. I know.

00:13:40.639 How do you respond to those?

00:13:42.480 >> See what is there to respond?

00:13:45.600 It's dog's pleasure to bark.

00:13:48.959 If uh

00:13:51.279 if in your street there is a street dog,

00:13:55.279 if a thief

00:13:56.320 >> Mhm. with the intention of robbing your

00:13:58.800 house coming. But if he holds a a

00:14:01.199 biscuit in his hand and comes, the dog

00:14:02.880 will wag its tail.

00:14:04.480 >> But if Shiva walks down the street, it

00:14:06.560 will bark. What can you do about that

00:14:09.199 dog? Poor dog, that's all it knows. It's

00:14:11.440 okay.

00:14:12.240 >> But even the followers might be having

00:14:13.760 that question.

00:14:16.480 >> No. No.

00:14:19.040 People who are in touch with me,

00:14:21.519 >> one thing I have done to them is they

00:14:23.279 have become sensible human beings

00:14:25.440 because it's very important for me that

00:14:26.959 they are sensible human beings. Too many

00:14:29.600 people in the name of religion,

00:14:31.120 philosophy, ideology are living

00:14:32.880 senselessly.

00:14:34.079 >> My work is to bring them to sense.

00:14:38.240 >> Also, uh three four years back.

00:14:41.760 uh I know I I don't know how do how do

00:14:44.000 we uh what do you tackle with this kind

00:14:45.760 of a conversation

00:14:52.000 and when he was comparing faith with

00:14:54.160 stupidity and

00:14:56.880 he continuously provoking

00:15:00.800 how did you take it or post that or now

00:15:03.760 how do you see that

00:15:04.480 >> you saw me how I took it

00:15:06.880 >> of course you did not lose your control

00:15:10.399 but uh somehow How I felt it is

00:15:12.480 disturbing ammonia.

00:15:14.000 >> No, see I made myself in such a way that

00:15:18.800 I have not given the privilege to any

00:15:20.639 human being

00:15:21.519 >> that they can disturb me, they can make

00:15:23.839 me unhappy, they can make me frustrated,

00:15:26.240 they can make me resentful. I have not

00:15:28.720 given that freedom to anyone.

00:15:31.120 >> So it doesn't matter what they do, I do

00:15:32.959 what I do. So can we consider that you

00:15:35.680 never lost any kind of

00:15:42.079 see it's not like that

00:15:44.480 it's just that what happens within me I

00:15:47.440 conduct it consciously.

00:15:48.720 >> Mhm.

00:15:49.279 >> If you conducted your thought and

00:15:50.959 emotion consciously how would you keep

00:15:53.040 it?

00:15:54.880 How would you keep it? Pleasant or

00:15:56.160 unpleasant?

00:15:56.639 >> Of course pleasant.

00:15:57.680 >> That's all I'm doing. But

00:15:59.600 >> is it so easy is the question.

00:16:01.199 >> Yes it is. If you're willing. Mhm.

00:16:04.000 >> If your intelligence is functioning

00:16:05.839 >> right,

00:16:06.720 >> if you have a functioning intelligence,

00:16:08.720 if you have a frozen intelligence

00:16:10.320 because of your silly ideas and belief

00:16:12.240 systems, you talk like that.

00:16:14.560 >> Okay.

00:16:16.320 Also, do you think there is there is a

00:16:18.560 there is more to know.

00:16:25.759 See the nature of existence is such if

00:16:29.839 you live here for a billion years

00:16:31.759 >> Mhm. You will still know very little.

00:16:35.440 >> But

00:16:37.279 do you want to know all that? No.

00:16:39.839 Because you need inclination and time

00:16:42.639 for those things.

00:16:44.320 >> It's like this. See, if you go and we're

00:16:47.199 in a hotel, so I'm saying let's say

00:16:49.759 there are thousand rooms in this hotel,

00:16:52.000 right?

00:16:53.279 >> If you book your room, they'll give you

00:16:54.880 a key card. With that, you can only open

00:16:57.680 your room. But there's a maid who is

00:16:59.759 doing cleaning work. She's got one card

00:17:02.480 which opens all the rooms in that floor.

00:17:06.400 >> But there is a manager. He's got one

00:17:08.720 card. He can open all the thousand

00:17:11.359 rooms.

00:17:12.000 >> Right.

00:17:12.799 >> But has he seen all of them? Randomly he

00:17:16.160 has checked this and that

00:17:17.520 >> based on the purpose

00:17:19.599 >> looking at that he knows generally how

00:17:21.760 the hotel is going on.

00:17:23.119 >> Mhm. Similarly,

00:17:26.160 if you raise to a certain level of

00:17:28.319 consciousness, you have the keys for

00:17:30.240 everything. But will you go and open

00:17:32.640 everything? Because this is not a

00:17:34.000 thousand room business. This cosmos,

00:17:36.480 this is a trillions and zillions of

00:17:38.559 rooms,

00:17:39.280 >> right?

00:17:39.760 >> Will you go and look into all that? No.

00:17:42.320 Nobody can look into all that. There is

00:17:44.000 no time, nor is there inclination. You

00:17:47.360 you know enough. Everything that

00:17:49.200 matters, you know. That's good enough.

00:17:52.960 And uh when I was actually reading your

00:17:54.640 book,

00:17:55.600 >> which book did you read?

00:17:56.799 >> Uh engineering when I was reading the

00:17:59.280 book u and not just that even certain

00:18:02.240 articles or videos 23rd September 1982.

00:18:09.039 Can I know what happened on that day?

00:18:10.640 The enlightenment

00:18:11.520 >> you cannot know.

00:18:14.000 I can tell you but you cannot know. I'm

00:18:15.919 saying

00:18:18.720 you can know only if you go through the

00:18:20.320 experience. Isn't it

00:18:21.360 >> very true? Yeah.

00:18:22.559 >> Can you know anything that you have not

00:18:24.000 experienced?

00:18:24.640 >> Of course no.

00:18:25.520 >> Let's say you have not eaten gulab

00:18:26.960 jamun. I will explain it to you how it

00:18:29.120 tastes. Will you know?

00:18:30.720 >> So simple thing like that if you cannot

00:18:32.400 know how will you know enlightenment.

00:18:35.200 >> But how did you know that it is

00:18:36.559 enlightenment? Ah

00:18:38.000 >> I didn't say it's enlightenment. People

00:18:39.600 are saying it's enlightenment.

00:18:41.120 >> Okay. So what happened on that day if I

00:18:43.679 can ask?

00:18:44.320 >> See I grew up

00:18:45.840 >> Mhm. in such a way that by the time I'm

00:18:50.400 16 17 I I'm a super skeptic. I don't

00:18:53.440 believe anything other than what I can

00:18:55.280 see.

00:18:56.320 >> By 11 12 years of age I'm a confirmed

00:18:58.640 atheist. By 12 years of age I've read

00:19:03.360 marks and angles.

00:19:05.520 >> By 14 I wanted to join Somalu in the

00:19:08.240 armed struggle.

00:19:09.360 >> Right.

00:19:09.840 >> Fortunately things went wrong. Some of

00:19:12.559 my friends joined and they got killed.

00:19:14.720 >> Oh

00:19:15.200 >> yeah.

00:19:16.640 So uh why I am saying this is

00:19:21.600 because when I looked at life I saw

00:19:25.679 everything as injustice

00:19:28.799 >> everywhere some injustice is happening

00:19:33.039 and when you see injustice you get

00:19:34.880 angry. So I was in a constant state of

00:19:37.280 anger. Not about anybody in particular.

00:19:39.440 Simply social systems, political system,

00:19:42.559 religious nonsense going on. Everything

00:19:45.120 I'm just generally angry hot. You're

00:19:47.600 calling me cool but I was hot.

00:19:51.360 So I am totally skeptical about

00:19:53.440 everything. I did not grow up in any

00:19:55.280 spiritual culture. I never went to a

00:19:58.160 temple.

00:19:59.120 >> Even now I go to a temple only if it's

00:20:01.200 architecturally good or there is

00:20:03.600 something powerful out there. I have

00:20:05.760 never prayed in my life till this day

00:20:07.760 ever.

00:20:08.799 >> But we see your videos where you

00:20:10.720 perform.

00:20:11.679 >> Those are processes. Those are not

00:20:13.280 prayers.

00:20:14.080 >> Okay.

00:20:15.200 >> Prayer means calling somebody and say

00:20:17.840 please help me this, this, this. Dear

00:20:19.919 God, do this, do that, help me, protect

00:20:22.080 me. I have never done that in my life.

00:20:24.559 These are processes. These are

00:20:26.320 scientific processes. If you do it in a

00:20:28.640 certain way, it creates a certain energy

00:20:30.480 where people can benefit. That's a

00:20:32.480 different matter.

00:20:34.400 So I'm in this condition and uh because

00:20:38.000 I just wanted to travel and I thought

00:20:40.320 I'll do some business for a few years

00:20:41.919 and go away somewhere.

00:20:44.559 >> I got into one 2 3 4 5 6 half a dozen

00:20:47.600 businesses all of them very successful

00:20:50.159 for those days.

00:20:51.200 >> Mhm. We are not talking about trillion

00:20:53.520 dollar kind of success but for a small

00:20:56.720 town like mys I'm considered very

00:20:58.880 successful

00:21:00.720 at those days

00:21:01.679 >> right

00:21:02.240 >> till that moment I thought this is me

00:21:04.080 that's you I have no problem with you

00:21:06.400 but that's you this is me

00:21:09.600 >> suddenly I didn't know which is me which

00:21:11.200 is not me what was me was all over the

00:21:13.760 place

00:21:16.240 because your idea of

00:21:19.360 yourself is right now the boundary of

00:21:21.520 your body, right?

00:21:23.600 >> Where did you get the body?

00:21:26.720 >> You were born like this.

00:21:28.080 >> No,

00:21:28.880 >> born like this.

00:21:30.000 >> Yeah.

00:21:30.640 >> You became like this. How?

00:21:32.559 >> Maybe with time. With the

00:21:34.240 >> Oh, time did it too.

00:21:36.000 >> You've been eating, man.

00:21:37.440 >> Of course. With with with the uh inputs

00:21:39.520 that we have taken.

00:21:40.240 >> Just food.

00:21:42.240 All the telangana food slowly made you

00:21:45.039 like this.

00:21:45.520 >> Oh, no.

00:21:46.559 >> Where did the food come from?

00:21:48.159 >> From the nature.

00:21:49.360 >> Piece of the planet. It's a soil that

00:21:51.039 you're eating, isn't it?

00:21:52.240 >> Right.

00:21:54.080 >> So, right now

00:21:57.520 you're sitting here. If suddenly I say

00:21:59.919 this is me,

00:22:02.000 >> you will think I'm mad or no. Right now,

00:22:05.039 that's what I think of you.

00:22:09.600 >> Because when food appears on your plate,

00:22:12.000 you say this is my food. You eat it and

00:22:13.919 then you say this is me.

00:22:16.480 >> Crazy or no?

00:22:17.440 >> Yeah.

00:22:19.039 So what is you is bound to the

00:22:21.600 boundaries of the body because that's

00:22:23.200 how you think.

00:22:25.679 >> Your experience has gotten limited like

00:22:27.679 that. Are you breathing? At least

00:22:29.440 >> I am breathing.

00:22:30.159 >> You are breathing. So

00:22:33.120 if you exhale,

00:22:34.880 >> there's a tree outside which inhales

00:22:36.559 your breath.

00:22:37.360 >> Correct.

00:22:37.919 >> It exhales and you inhale its breath.

00:22:40.960 >> So what is you is all in the body or is

00:22:43.360 it spread out?

00:22:44.720 >> I can consider two two ways.

00:22:47.600 No,

00:22:49.520 in a way one way to explain this is one

00:22:52.080 half of your lungs is hanging on the

00:22:53.520 tree, isn't it? Yes or no?

00:22:56.080 >> Yeah,

00:22:56.400 >> it's all over the place.

00:22:58.000 >> Your food is being grown somewhere

00:22:59.600 somewhere somewhere.

00:23:00.720 >> Your It's all over the place. Your

00:23:02.400 potential body is all over the place.

00:23:04.880 Yes or no?

00:23:06.000 >> Yeah.

00:23:06.480 >> Even this body came from many places or

00:23:08.559 no.

00:23:08.880 >> True.

00:23:10.640 >> So

00:23:12.159 essentially what you think as myself is

00:23:14.720 your conception. M

00:23:16.320 >> that's not the way life is. Life is a

00:23:18.480 transaction with everything. Even at the

00:23:20.960 subatomic particle level is transacting

00:23:23.039 with the entire universe.

00:23:24.480 >> Right?

00:23:25.600 >> So if you sit a little away from the

00:23:29.360 psychological process, you will see

00:23:32.000 suddenly who you are is just everywhere.

00:23:34.960 >> When this happened to me, I thought it

00:23:37.280 was only 10 15 minutes. But when I open

00:23:39.919 when I came back to my senses, it was

00:23:42.480 like 4 and 1/2 hours. For the first time

00:23:44.159 in my adult life, I have tears. Me and

00:23:46.559 tears were impossible

00:23:48.400 >> till then.

00:23:49.360 >> Yes. Tears all wet. My shirt is wet.

00:23:55.679 Every cell in my body is bursting with

00:23:57.919 ecstasy.

00:23:59.760 There's no explanation. I've always been

00:24:01.760 peaceful and happy. That's not been an

00:24:03.280 issue. I'm young and I'm successful.

00:24:05.520 Everybody's clapping their hands. What's

00:24:07.039 my problem? Everything is fine.

00:24:09.440 >> But this is different. Every cell in the

00:24:11.679 body is melting like that.

00:24:14.880 I have no answer. I have no context.

00:24:17.679 When I ask my mind, what is happening

00:24:20.320 with me? It says you're going crazy.

00:24:24.640 I ask my friends, what do you think is

00:24:26.400 happening with me? I come on, you took

00:24:28.559 some drug. Did you find mushrooms in the

00:24:30.320 hill? This is all they could ask.

00:24:33.520 >> So there was no context anywhere. But I

00:24:36.320 knew I have hit a gold mine. I don't

00:24:38.240 want to lose it.

00:24:39.919 So in about 6 weeks it got stabilized. I

00:24:42.480 started living like that.

00:24:45.279 Uh all my businesses I just left it

00:24:47.600 where it was to my partners just like

00:24:49.600 that without asking for one rupee from

00:24:51.919 them. Just left it right there.

00:24:54.000 >> Mhm.

00:24:54.640 >> Because there was nothing to it. It just

00:24:56.080 >> on that day you were into construction.

00:24:57.760 >> Yes. Construction. I was into I was

00:25:00.880 building farms for people.

00:25:02.400 >> Right.

00:25:03.039 >> And various other things related to

00:25:05.760 construction various other businesses.

00:25:07.520 >> Okay. So uh

00:25:09.120 >> you left everything there to your

00:25:10.480 partners.

00:25:11.760 >> Yes. Uh because he just that person who

00:25:15.120 was handling all that was gone.

00:25:17.200 >> Mhm.

00:25:17.760 >> He didn't exist. Suddenly that smart

00:25:20.080 young man was gone and total emptiness

00:25:22.400 here.

00:25:23.120 >> Okay.

00:25:23.600 >> But fantastic.

00:25:25.279 >> So were you cheated?

00:25:26.400 >> Huh?

00:25:26.799 >> Were you cheated?

00:25:27.760 >> No.

00:25:29.440 Blown away.

00:25:31.360 So one one and a half hours I just years

00:25:33.919 I just traveled because so much memory

00:25:37.200 humongous amount of memory

00:25:39.440 >> for which I had no relationship with

00:25:41.520 came. So I traveled around to check if

00:25:43.919 it's true.

00:25:45.120 >> Mhm.

00:25:45.600 >> Well it was clear as daylight but my

00:25:47.840 skeptical mind naturally questions

00:25:49.679 everything.

00:25:51.279 So all that and then in a few weeks in a

00:25:55.120 few couple of few months I realized

00:25:57.840 this. I was just trying to figure out

00:25:59.600 what is it that's happened to me.

00:26:01.440 >> The simple thing is this. If you can sit

00:26:03.360 here leaving your mind alone and just

00:26:05.840 sit aside, every cell in your body

00:26:08.000 bursts into ecstasy. Today we have

00:26:09.840 substantial scientific proof. We have a

00:26:12.720 center in the Beth Israel Hospital which

00:26:14.960 is the teaching hospital for Howard

00:26:16.720 Medical School,

00:26:17.600 >> right?

00:26:18.159 >> Where studies have been done where

00:26:19.840 they're showing how the chemistry is

00:26:21.440 changing within a matter of few weeks of

00:26:23.840 simple practice that we teach. the inner

00:26:26.159 engineering book that you're reading.

00:26:28.080 Please do the program. There is a simple

00:26:30.159 21minut practice.

00:26:31.760 >> In 6 to 8 weeks your bliss factor is up

00:26:35.360 significantly over 70% up

00:26:38.880 >> and in about 12 weeks they're saying the

00:26:41.919 bliss factor is such that it is 23%

00:26:44.960 higher than what happens in a sexual

00:26:48.000 orgasm. And on an average

00:26:51.120 >> in 3 months of practice on an average

00:26:54.000 most people are 6 and a half years

00:26:56.320 younger than what they were on the

00:26:58.240 cellular level. So all these are

00:27:00.960 wellestablished scientific facts. All

00:27:03.360 this happened to me not in the scale

00:27:05.520 that they're talking about in an immense

00:27:07.679 scale happened to me in just a matter of

00:27:10.240 few hours

00:27:11.520 >> and I realized the only thing is you

00:27:15.279 leave your psychological activity here

00:27:17.039 and sit here. That's it. Right?

00:27:19.360 >> So when I realized it's that simple,

00:27:22.799 I was 25. The world's population was

00:27:26.240 some 4.62 or 82 or something like that.

00:27:30.000 I sat down and made a plan. Next 2 and

00:27:33.360 1/2 years. I am going to make the whole

00:27:35.760 world blissful. Who wouldn't want this?

00:27:39.120 No cost to it. You just sit down and it

00:27:41.039 happens,

00:27:41.440 >> right? Who would not want it? All kinds

00:27:43.840 of crazy things they are doing to be

00:27:45.600 peaceful and happy. Here I am. I can

00:27:48.320 teach them a way where their chemistry

00:27:50.080 will become blissed out.

00:27:53.039 See 43 years still on seven days of the

00:27:56.559 week, 365 days. But people are committed

00:27:59.840 to their miseries. You should have seen

00:28:02.159 yesterday the event ecstasy of your

00:28:03.679 life.

00:28:03.840 >> Yeah, I've seen the videos.

00:28:05.039 >> You saw the video. Okay.

00:28:08.080 You ask them what's their experience?

00:28:09.760 They're blown away by doing what? By

00:28:11.520 doing

00:28:11.760 >> I want to ask them why did you cry or

00:28:15.600 but it didn't get a chance to talk to

00:28:17.039 Say cry. I didn't cry.

00:28:18.240 >> No, not you. I was I wanted to ask

00:28:20.159 >> any anybody

00:28:21.840 >> they're not crying. If any see the

00:28:25.120 problem is right now tears means most

00:28:27.279 people think some pain or suffering is

00:28:29.120 happening.

00:28:29.760 >> Right?

00:28:30.559 >> Tears don't come because of suffering.

00:28:33.760 Tears come whenever any experience

00:28:36.399 crosses a certain limit.

00:28:37.840 >> Right?

00:28:38.720 >> If you feel too much joy, tears will

00:28:40.880 come. If you feel too much love, tears

00:28:42.799 will come. Ecstasy, tears will come. Of

00:28:45.440 course, pain, misery, whatever. For most

00:28:48.399 people, only pain crosses that limit.

00:28:51.039 >> Their joy, their peace, their love never

00:28:53.200 crosses those limits.

00:28:54.480 >> Right?

00:28:55.760 >> If your cheeks have not been washed by

00:28:58.159 tears of love, joy and ecstasy, you are

00:29:01.039 yet to start living.

00:29:04.320 >> Yes. Okay. So uh

00:29:08.399 general this this is something which I

00:29:10.159 had uh recent when I got to know that

00:29:13.360 we're going to do a podcast with you.

00:29:15.039 Okay sir. First of all

00:29:23.679 we wanted to experience and uh from the

00:29:26.240 team of a couple of people came to the

00:29:28.320 office we have experienced the app 7

00:29:31.520 minutes

00:29:33.600 honestly after the meditation uh we've

00:29:35.840 done I this is not a subtle end

00:29:39.679 I genuinely wanted people to know

00:29:41.679 everyone needs to experience such kind

00:29:43.279 of meditation

00:29:45.279 It's at least a basic thing that

00:29:46.320 everyone needs to experience.

00:29:48.799 But what if I ask you what is the

00:29:50.559 importance of meditation or yoga? And

00:29:52.720 yoga is it only physical and uh how what

00:29:57.039 is the power of or potential of a human

00:29:59.120 brain or body? I if I can ask you like

00:30:02.159 an open question.

00:30:04.000 >> Well,

00:30:07.919 see for all creatures on this planet,

00:30:10.080 nature has drawn two lines.

00:30:12.000 >> Mhm. within which they live and die.

00:30:14.240 Right? For the human being, the

00:30:16.559 significance of being human is this. The

00:30:18.799 top line is gone.

00:30:21.039 You can go where you want.

00:30:24.000 But most people are like, see, if you

00:30:26.480 put a parrot in a cage and feed him

00:30:28.559 nicely.

00:30:30.720 After some time, you leave the door

00:30:32.399 open, he won't go because he's become

00:30:34.799 fat. And he knows free food comes here.

00:30:38.240 He's forgotten to fly. He won't fly. H

00:30:42.320 >> if he flies he knows that's the best

00:30:44.640 thing he can do as a bird but he gets

00:30:48.559 lazy in the cage and even if you leave

00:30:50.720 the door open he won't go. Most human

00:30:53.520 beings have become like this.

00:30:57.039 >> They are not exploring the full depth of

00:30:59.279 who they are because their idea of

00:31:01.440 stupid security. Okay.

00:31:03.679 >> Everything is about security. What do

00:31:06.320 you why do you think they're educating

00:31:07.760 themselves? Do you think they are

00:31:09.520 interested in the subjects they're

00:31:10.960 studying?

00:31:13.520 They will get a job. They will make

00:31:15.360 money and they will be secure.

00:31:17.039 >> Yeah.

00:31:17.679 >> Why do you think they're getting

00:31:18.799 married?

00:31:20.320 Why are they checking the horoscope

00:31:21.760 before marriage? Security,

00:31:23.760 >> right?

00:31:24.480 >> Everything is about security.

00:31:29.120 Life is not secure.

00:31:32.000 The nature of life is it's

00:31:33.440 unpredictable.

00:31:35.760 >> What is unpredictable? You want to make

00:31:37.760 it predictable,

00:31:38.799 >> right?

00:31:39.519 >> The difference is this. See, something

00:31:41.919 is going in cycles.

00:31:43.600 >> It's predictable. It only goes like

00:31:45.360 this,

00:31:45.760 >> right?

00:31:47.039 >> This is the nature of physicality.

00:31:49.120 Everything that's physical is going like

00:31:50.799 this. An atom is going like this.

00:31:53.440 >> The planetary system is going like this.

00:31:55.519 The cosmos is going like everything that

00:31:57.760 is physical needs a

00:32:00.480 repeated motion.

00:32:01.600 >> Mhm.

00:32:02.399 >> Same track it has to do.

00:32:04.000 >> Right.

00:32:04.720 >> That is physicality. Physicality exists

00:32:07.120 in the universe only from repetitive

00:32:10.000 movement of something.

00:32:12.880 So if you attach yourself to just your

00:32:14.799 physical nature, that's how you will be.

00:32:17.440 >> Nothing new will happen,

00:32:18.960 >> right?

00:32:19.760 >> Either you will die of adventure or

00:32:21.519 boredom. It's up to you.

00:32:25.919 >> So

00:32:27.679 people are always looking for security.

00:32:31.120 But there is no security. No matter how

00:32:33.440 much is your bank balance, how much is

00:32:35.039 your wealth, you may die tomorrow. I'll

00:32:36.559 bless you with a long life. But it's

00:32:38.320 possible.

00:32:39.440 >> It's happening to millions of people

00:32:41.360 around the world, isn't it?

00:32:43.039 >> True. True.

00:32:44.799 >> It's not necessarily because there is a

00:32:46.559 war or there is something. It can just

00:32:48.640 happen in a thousand different ways.

00:32:50.480 It's happening every day.

00:32:53.760 >> So the most incredible thing is human

00:32:56.320 beings though people are falling dead

00:32:59.600 all around them every day. They learn to

00:33:03.440 close their eyes and they come to this

00:33:06.000 belief that other people die.

00:33:09.039 >> No. No. Both of us are dying kind of

00:33:10.960 people. Yes or no?

00:33:12.720 >> Yeah. Of course.

00:33:16.000 Huh? We always think other people will

00:33:18.320 die.

00:33:19.600 >> No. No. We are all dying kind. If you

00:33:22.960 understand I'm dying kind, what you have

00:33:25.120 understood is you are on a limited lease

00:33:27.840 of time.

00:33:29.120 >> Yeah. If you know your time is limited,

00:33:32.159 would you organize yourself better, live

00:33:34.640 a better life, more sensible life, not

00:33:38.000 doing things that you don't matter to

00:33:40.000 you anymore?

00:33:42.159 >> Or if you think you're immortal and live

00:33:44.159 here, you'll do you have time to do all

00:33:46.240 kinds of stupid things, which is what is

00:33:48.480 happening. Most people are not doing

00:33:50.720 what they want to do. Anybody here wants

00:33:53.760 to be miserable?

00:33:55.600 Nobody wants to be miserable. But

00:33:57.760 everybody goes through misery. Why?

00:33:59.679 Because they think they have endless

00:34:01.200 amount of time.

00:34:02.960 >> If they know what is sticking away here

00:34:05.440 is not the watch. It's life which is

00:34:07.519 sticking away. If you're conscious of

00:34:09.359 it, you will not spend one moment doing

00:34:13.040 something to yourself which you don't

00:34:14.879 want. Isn't it?

00:34:16.239 >> It's important

00:34:18.879 to mentality.

00:34:22.480 And many of times when I get a chance to

00:34:24.480 talk to someone about your uh speeches

00:34:27.599 like

00:34:30.480 if you ask it.

00:34:32.960 And one thing struck me or one thing was

00:34:35.679 a bit relatable to me is at times

00:34:48.320 and believing in what you're saying is

00:34:49.679 different. So

00:34:54.639 is it is it because of lack of logic or

00:34:57.200 lack of clarity or lack of

00:34:59.200 understanding? What do you feel? Because

00:35:02.079 I' I've seen a lot of comments under

00:35:03.680 your videos.

00:35:07.839 No, there are some people committed to

00:35:09.359 that. Huh? It doesn't matter if I say

00:35:12.480 today is Monday, they will blast me. It

00:35:14.960 is not Monday.

00:35:17.280 There are such people they are vested

00:35:19.440 interests in the country.

00:35:22.079 They are there for different reasons.

00:35:23.760 It's okay. But what I mean to say is

00:35:26.400 like factual information.

00:35:30.160 But

00:35:30.640 >> no no

00:35:32.560 the thing is this.

00:35:35.599 They are so contaminated with their own

00:35:38.240 stupid opinions.

00:35:40.400 They don't understand. There can be

00:35:42.560 somebody here

00:35:43.760 >> who doesn't have any opinion about

00:35:45.520 anybody or anything.

00:35:47.760 >> Even people who are living with me for

00:35:49.440 20 30 years, I don't have any opinions

00:35:52.079 on them.

00:35:53.680 >> Do you know how hard it is? How much

00:35:55.760 work you have to do? Discipline your

00:35:57.359 mind to not make opinions on people who

00:35:59.839 are around you every day you see them.

00:36:04.960 >> I have no opinions on people who are

00:36:06.880 around me. Whether it's uh you know

00:36:09.839 whether it's family or friends or all

00:36:11.839 the volunteers who work with me when I

00:36:14.240 look at them I look at them the way they

00:36:15.920 are right now

00:36:18.240 for work purposes you may have some

00:36:20.160 conclusions because this person can do

00:36:22.160 this that person cannot do this

00:36:24.160 >> that's a different matter but as people

00:36:26.400 when I look at them I'm just looking at

00:36:28.240 them as life how they are right now

00:36:30.320 >> right

00:36:30.720 >> because a being a human is a possibility

00:36:34.880 >> it is not a product

00:36:37.119 >> but they all become products of

00:36:38.800 something.

00:36:40.079 >> So they think I also should be a

00:36:41.839 product. The first question you asked is

00:36:43.359 how do I define myself?

00:36:44.960 >> I don't define myself. Why should I

00:36:46.560 define myself? Definition is a boundary.

00:36:49.359 I never put a boundary on myself. I'm

00:36:51.920 doing what's needed but tomorrow I may

00:36:53.520 do something else altogether.

00:36:55.040 >> Right? But when you say uh you don't

00:36:57.680 have and you don't create opinion on

00:36:59.359 anyone. You're also saying that they are

00:37:02.160 like that

00:37:04.640 even that is an opinion right? What is

00:37:06.240 that?

00:37:07.599 If you're generalizing anything

00:37:09.680 >> that is a fact today, Monday, is it a

00:37:11.440 fact or is it my opinion?

00:37:13.359 >> That's all. When I see that somebody is

00:37:15.440 making their conclusions, I say they're

00:37:17.040 making their conclusions.

00:37:18.400 >> Mhm.

00:37:18.800 >> This doesn't mean tomorrow they'll be

00:37:20.320 making the same conclusions because my

00:37:22.560 work is to transform people, not to make

00:37:25.200 conclusions on them.

00:37:26.400 >> Okay?

00:37:27.520 >> If I conclude you are like this only,

00:37:30.880 that means how do I tomorrow work with

00:37:32.800 you on a spiritual process? M

00:37:35.119 >> only when I see that you are a

00:37:36.720 possibility

00:37:38.240 today you're like this but that's not a

00:37:41.760 fixed thing

00:37:42.560 >> right

00:37:44.160 and

00:37:45.760 uh there are people who are committed to

00:37:47.760 that or different interests because of

00:37:49.680 which they're doing it

00:37:50.640 >> they are wasted interest they are that's

00:37:52.240 what

00:37:52.720 >> it doesn't matter you you just look it

00:37:54.720 up if you want

00:37:55.839 >> that's what

00:37:57.760 I'll tell you I know you are hesitating

00:37:59.280 to ask some questions so let me tell you

00:38:01.680 no I don't have anygest

00:38:04.079 No, I I'll only raise it. Why?

00:38:07.280 >> See, anything that a man can do and

00:38:09.680 cannot do, I have been accused of that.

00:38:12.400 Do they have any substance for that? No.

00:38:15.359 Simply

00:38:16.960 I have taken thousands of acres of

00:38:18.880 forest. Let them show one in

00:38:20.880 >> elephant corridors.

00:38:21.839 >> Yeah.

00:38:22.720 >> One inch. All right. Elephant corridors

00:38:26.000 are determined by central board of you

00:38:29.280 know the wildlife and stuff and also the

00:38:31.760 state government participates

00:38:33.839 >> has any state government or central body

00:38:36.160 or world wildlife fund or the other

00:38:39.040 bodies which are there I don't know all

00:38:40.400 the names

00:38:41.520 >> has anybody pointed out we are in the

00:38:43.839 elephant corridor some idiot keeps on

00:38:46.240 saying elephant corridor because he's

00:38:48.160 just a word heard a word like that he

00:38:50.000 doesn't know what is an elephant

00:38:51.119 corridor okay he what is an elephant

00:38:54.160 corridor is there are two habitats.

00:38:56.800 >> Mhm.

00:38:57.599 >> They would like to go from one to the

00:38:59.200 other. Usually 50 to 100 km wide

00:39:01.760 corridor will be there.

00:39:03.440 >> There is no such corridor anywhere

00:39:05.200 around us. The nearest corridor is about

00:39:08.960 120 or 130 km away.

00:39:10.560 >> Is it now or since beginning?

00:39:12.079 >> Always.

00:39:14.320 >> It can't suddenly happen. It can't be

00:39:16.800 there yesterday and gone tomorrow.

00:39:18.320 There's no such thing.

00:39:20.720 They have been even your some of your

00:39:22.720 film stars and all have asked me this

00:39:24.240 question. And I said come I'll give you

00:39:26.400 all the facility show me one inch I will

00:39:29.920 disappear you'll die they say that sguru

00:39:32.240 is so powerful that he can manage the

00:39:33.760 law as well

00:39:34.560 >> that that is what I'm saying when the

00:39:37.839 forest department Tamil Nadu forest

00:39:40.000 department presents in the high court

00:39:41.839 three times

00:39:42.640 >> right

00:39:42.960 >> that there is no encroachment

00:39:46.640 >> who are you

00:39:50.720 not an inch of encroachment I said one

00:39:53.359 inch

00:39:54.240 If it is there, I will leave. You'll

00:39:55.839 never see me again.

00:39:58.160 >> I have not gone back on anything. I have

00:39:59.839 said I'll stick to this even now.

00:40:01.760 >> I'm telling you, come in. I will go

00:40:04.000 away.

00:40:04.800 >> But now it's irrelevant because they

00:40:06.400 presented. So we called for all kinds of

00:40:08.720 surveys. Every survey has happened.

00:40:10.800 >> You think I'm so stupid?

00:40:12.960 >> When I'm doing this magnitude of work in

00:40:15.760 the world, you probably you don't know

00:40:17.440 how much work is happening around the

00:40:19.040 world. When I'm doing this, I will take

00:40:22.320 extra 10 ft of land from forest and mess

00:40:25.359 it up. You think I'm that stupid? Do I

00:40:27.760 look that stupid to you?

00:40:30.560 >> Then why are you saying it? Obviously,

00:40:32.560 you have your agenda, isn't it?

00:40:35.599 >> And

00:40:37.119 we run a marketing agency basically. So

00:40:40.560 I'm not sure whether it is right or not.

00:40:42.160 Also,

00:40:44.400 two and a half months every time it

00:40:46.160 starts.

00:40:46.720 >> Oh, then we are right. So okay kind of

00:40:48.880 campaign start and I even read somewhere

00:40:51.359 uh around monthly 60 cr or something has

00:40:54.079 been spent against you just sguru is in

00:40:56.240 jail and photo

00:40:57.440 >> yes

00:40:58.319 >> why is it so I mean

00:41:00.240 >> I'm telling you I'm telling you because

00:41:02.640 even the supreme court made a stupid

00:41:04.400 comment on me which I took it up later

00:41:07.839 see they say two girls are missing

00:41:11.520 >> these are not girls one is 39 other is

00:41:13.760 43 year old okay they've been in the

00:41:16.079 asham for over 12 Yes, both are sisters.

00:41:19.520 So parents are visiting them. They're

00:41:21.359 going home and coming. Everything is

00:41:22.800 happening.

00:41:23.680 >> Suddenly something some property issue

00:41:25.520 something comes up. They file habius

00:41:27.680 corpus in the right

00:41:29.200 >> high court.

00:41:29.680 >> I've seen that. Huh?

00:41:30.480 >> The girls appear in the high court.

00:41:33.280 >> Over. No habius corpus means what?

00:41:35.359 Missing. They appeared. It should be

00:41:37.680 over. But it's not over.

00:41:40.240 >> They say investigate the asham. See, you

00:41:43.040 cannot investigate anybody. You can only

00:41:45.599 investigate a crime.

00:41:48.880 >> When there is no crime, what are you

00:41:50.319 going to investigate? No. 150 policemen

00:41:53.119 come to the ashram. What the hell do you

00:41:55.599 want to investigate? We don't even have

00:41:57.520 a gate to the ashram. Okay, you come in.

00:41:59.839 What is the problem? What will you find

00:42:01.920 out? No, you just want to make media.

00:42:05.119 Something happened. Then we went to the

00:42:06.640 Supreme Court,

00:42:07.359 >> right?

00:42:07.920 >> Supreme Court called the girls. They

00:42:09.520 came online.

00:42:10.560 >> Mhm.

00:42:10.880 >> And the president, the chief justice

00:42:12.800 spoke to them. He was satisfied. He said

00:42:15.040 no.

00:42:15.920 >> And then because our justice system also

00:42:19.200 unfortunately running like this. I know

00:42:20.720 I can get into trouble for this

00:42:22.160 statement but I will say it. It's okay.

00:42:25.760 They say there is nothing. There's no

00:42:27.599 truth to this. The girls are there by

00:42:29.359 their own will.

00:42:30.720 >> They're well educated girls. They're not

00:42:32.560 some stupid brainwashed people. They're

00:42:34.960 highly educated. One is MSC in

00:42:36.720 something. Another is PhD and all this

00:42:39.280 stuff. So

00:42:42.640 he says nothing to this case is

00:42:44.880 dismissed but police can in investigate

00:42:47.520 the criminal cases.

00:42:49.440 >> Then I call up and ask what criminal

00:42:51.280 cases?

00:42:52.079 >> H

00:42:53.520 >> neither the foundation nor me. In my

00:42:55.680 life I have never had a criminal case in

00:42:57.839 my life. I've never been to a police

00:42:59.680 station or a court in my entire life.

00:43:02.000 >> And the foundation has never been

00:43:03.520 accused of any crime.

00:43:05.280 >> Okay. So what are you talking about

00:43:07.119 criminal cases? Just like that to

00:43:09.599 balance. What nonsense balance are you

00:43:12.160 doing? Huh? Now half the country thinks

00:43:14.079 we have criminal cases.

00:43:15.440 >> How does it stand?

00:43:16.960 >> This is the way unfortunately things are

00:43:18.880 running.

00:43:20.160 >> It doesn't bother me personally but it

00:43:22.400 impedes the work.

00:43:23.440 >> Right. What is a criminal case? Show me

00:43:26.319 one criminal case.

00:43:29.440 Nothing. Simply why don't you open up

00:43:32.319 all the files and see our legal files

00:43:34.960 are there. See is there any criminal

00:43:36.560 case about anything? No, but you say it.

00:43:40.640 The thing is this. If I say

00:43:43.520 >> you're a rapist,

00:43:45.040 >> I will say this. I will keep on writing.

00:43:48.480 In this room, all the people who know

00:43:50.319 you will not believe,

00:43:51.599 >> right?

00:43:52.480 >> But there are people who don't know you.

00:43:54.720 They think maybe,

00:43:57.359 maybe

00:43:57.920 >> probability.

00:43:59.520 >> So we don't know whether he may be or

00:44:02.000 may not be. Better not go near him.

00:44:03.839 That's all. That's all they want to do

00:44:06.800 because this is the most popular place.

00:44:09.839 17% of the airport traffic is ours.

00:44:13.839 You must be supporting us. We put on

00:44:17.119 international map. All right? But note

00:44:21.359 this is what happens

00:44:23.440 because in this country you don't like

00:44:25.599 success. You like failed projects.

00:44:29.440 You don't like successful projects.

00:44:31.200 >> That's a big statement.

00:44:32.560 >> Yes, it is.

00:44:35.760 people there are people running

00:44:37.200 businesses here just ask them

00:44:39.520 >> every day how many problems are there to

00:44:41.680 become successful

00:44:43.040 >> the same thing we are building a whole

00:44:44.560 city in in United States

00:44:47.119 >> conscious city right

00:44:48.640 >> the Tennessee government

00:44:51.040 >> wants to invest half a million dollars a

00:44:52.960 year to advertise our center because we

00:44:55.760 are so good for their economy

00:44:57.839 >> we've not done 2% of the work that we

00:44:59.920 have done in India

00:45:03.040 that's a kind of support right

00:45:05.839 they know not they don't believe in any

00:45:08.000 of our spirituality or anything they

00:45:10.160 know it is working and they want it to

00:45:12.720 work here you don't want it to work

00:45:15.839 >> is that the reason you're not building

00:45:16.880 the city in India and building it there

00:45:18.960 >> no no there's no such land and there's

00:45:20.960 no such need here everywhere there are

00:45:23.119 people

00:45:24.079 >> got it and coming to the same point uh

00:45:26.480 there is a video which went viral of a

00:45:28.720 woman she was running around the ashram

00:45:31.119 uh looking for a phone to call her

00:45:32.800 husband And 2 days later she was found

00:45:34.480 dead in a pool or somewhere. What I mean

00:45:38.160 >> it's a family affair. I don't want to

00:45:39.680 discuss that. It's her family affair.

00:45:41.599 >> Okay. Okay. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

00:45:52.960 How many people die accidentally? All

00:45:54.880 this happening

00:45:57.359 when you have millions of people flowing

00:45:59.119 through a particular center they go

00:46:01.680 somewhere else and die

00:46:03.280 >> not in the ashram somewhere else

00:46:05.200 >> in the name of ash

00:46:06.960 >> but suddenly

00:46:09.280 there are some people who say oh they're

00:46:11.040 responsible for it right

00:46:12.720 >> why

00:46:14.800 so you studied in a college I'm sorry

00:46:17.359 and let me not take you as somebody

00:46:18.960 studied in some college

00:46:21.839 after one year that person died

00:46:24.240 >> Mhm. H

00:46:24.880 >> you blame the college is it somebody

00:46:27.040 comes and does a program goes out and

00:46:29.520 after whatever one or two weeks they die

00:46:32.240 >> you blame the ashram is it

00:46:36.160 >> what

00:46:37.839 because because first understand this in

00:46:41.040 this country there's a huge agenda to

00:46:43.760 destroy anything that belongs to this

00:46:46.560 civilization anything

00:46:49.280 >> especially spiritual process they want

00:46:50.880 to kill it because that's where the

00:46:52.720 strength is People draw strength from

00:46:55.119 that.

00:46:55.920 >> Today come and see in Bangalore. Our

00:46:57.839 Bangalore center except Adi Yogi and

00:47:00.160 Naga temple. There's nothing else. It's

00:47:01.599 a construction site. Lot of construction

00:47:03.440 going on.

00:47:04.720 >> Our daily footprint is 25 to 30,000

00:47:07.440 people.

00:47:08.240 >> Oh.

00:47:08.640 >> We are 1 and a half hours away from

00:47:10.400 Bangalore in Jagalapur. Daily 20 25 to

00:47:15.280 30,000.

00:47:16.400 >> Weekends 40 to 50,000. On festival days

00:47:19.680 1.5 to 2.5 lakh people. Last year Makar

00:47:23.200 Sranti the traffic jammed up for 14

00:47:26.240 kilometers in the national highway

00:47:28.160 Bangalore Hyderabad Highway was jammed

00:47:30.240 up for hours because of the traffic.

00:47:35.359 Now show me one more place in Bangalore

00:47:38.720 city

00:47:39.599 >> either a temple a shopping mall or a you

00:47:43.040 know cinema complex anybody who is

00:47:45.440 having 30,000 footprint per day.

00:47:49.280 So when success happens, you must

00:47:51.920 understand a tree which has maximum

00:47:54.800 fruits gets maximum stones.

00:47:57.359 >> That's all it is. Who will throw a stone

00:48:00.000 at a barren tree?

00:48:01.680 >> No one.

00:48:02.720 >> That's all it is.

00:48:04.640 >> And at times

00:48:10.640 no, I'm saying they know everybody will

00:48:13.680 not believe it.

00:48:14.800 >> But there will be 2 to 5% of the people.

00:48:17.440 There'll be 2% who will believe it.

00:48:19.520 Another five 6% of the people we go

00:48:22.640 there. We don't know what's happening.

00:48:24.480 That's all they want to create. They're

00:48:25.839 interested in that population.

00:48:29.520 >> I have been accused of anything that a

00:48:31.839 man can do and cannot do.

00:48:34.880 >> Is there any substance? Is there do they

00:48:36.720 have any facts to say anything? No

00:48:38.960 conjecture.

00:48:40.160 >> I think you have raped and killed 10

00:48:43.280 people.

00:48:44.160 >> I think so. What is this rubbish?

00:48:48.880 I must produce some evidence. No, at

00:48:51.599 least some.

00:48:52.720 >> Maybe I can't investigate everything. At

00:48:54.559 least something

00:48:57.040 somebody should come up and say

00:48:58.480 something like this happened to me.

00:49:00.480 >> No, somebody else from somewhere is

00:49:03.040 saying all this is happening. I this is

00:49:06.559 maybe it's because millions of people

00:49:08.640 are working as volunteers and

00:49:14.720 see you don't know how we live

00:49:18.800 >> as I I'm continuously killing all the

00:49:21.200 people who are immediately close around

00:49:23.040 me making their life so stringent

00:49:26.319 >> right

00:49:26.640 >> to be on the dot not to make one step

00:49:29.040 wrong

00:49:30.319 >> it's not easy it's like running an army

00:49:32.559 >> you understand it's run like that with

00:49:35.119 that kind of discipline and focus and

00:49:37.520 rigidity just to make sure because what

00:49:41.280 you consider a spiritual process

00:49:43.119 unfortunately has fallen in the gutter.

00:49:45.280 I want to put it back on the pedestal

00:49:47.280 that it was

00:49:48.800 >> any person a spiritual person came means

00:49:51.359 in the past even an emperor would fall

00:49:53.359 at his feet.

00:49:55.440 Today you they are trying to throw it in

00:49:57.200 the gutter. That's right.

00:49:58.240 >> Well, some people might have done some

00:49:59.760 mistakes. I'm not saying no. But corrupt

00:50:02.000 people are there in every profession,

00:50:03.440 isn't it?

00:50:05.200 >> Aren't there no corrupt podcasters?

00:50:08.720 >> There aren't.

00:50:09.359 >> There might be. Yeah,

00:50:10.240 >> there are. Come on.

00:50:11.359 >> But the responsibility is yours.

00:50:13.280 >> No. No.

00:50:14.960 >> If they're doing something because end

00:50:16.319 of humans.

00:50:16.960 >> No, no, no. I am not talking about I'm

00:50:19.200 just saying. Are they corrupt doctors?

00:50:21.200 >> There might be lawyers. What do you mean

00:50:23.040 there might be? There are. There are.

00:50:24.160 There are

00:50:25.920 there are enough all over the world

00:50:28.640 talking about it, isn't it? There are

00:50:30.240 cases they have been pursu prosecuted.

00:50:32.240 They have in prison many of them you

00:50:34.160 know. Are there corrupt lawyers? Are

00:50:36.160 there corrupt journalists? Are there

00:50:37.920 corrupt policemen? Are there corrupt

00:50:39.680 politicians?

00:50:41.280 So there are some corrupt spiritual

00:50:42.880 leaders also. Unfortunately they should

00:50:45.200 not have been there

00:50:46.480 >> but they are there. What can we do? So

00:50:49.680 because one doctor did something wrong

00:50:52.400 >> you don't want to go to a doctor anymore

00:50:56.160 >> nothing like that we cannot live like

00:50:58.240 that

00:50:59.119 >> this is also the same thing. So if

00:51:02.000 anybody has experienced something

00:51:04.319 absolutely that they were misused or

00:51:06.800 something happened to them, let them

00:51:08.480 speak one idiot. Let me see

00:51:12.960 one

00:51:14.079 >> in all these years just produce one let

00:51:16.640 me see.

00:51:18.640 Oh then you will say ah anything goes

00:51:21.119 wrong you will kill them.

00:51:23.520 You are crazy.

00:51:24.079 >> You're very powerful for that.

00:51:25.680 >> You're just crazy. I'm saying you're

00:51:27.359 insane. You don't have any sense of

00:51:29.920 life. You don't know how life works. You

00:51:32.160 don't know how society works. You don't

00:51:33.680 know how the law works.

00:51:35.520 >> You know nothing. When I do something, I

00:51:38.480 make sure I know all aspects of what I'm

00:51:40.800 doing.

00:51:41.760 >> And I'm not that stupid. I will take two

00:51:43.760 inches of land and ruin everything else

00:51:45.520 that I'm doing.

00:51:48.400 >> After receiving this award,

00:51:56.400 >> not really. It's the country wanted to

00:51:59.119 honor me so I took it. It's not only

00:52:00.960 Padma. I'm the I I never uh you know I'm

00:52:04.640 always embarrassed about the awards.

00:52:06.720 >> Okay.

00:52:07.119 >> Most of the awards I avoid.

00:52:09.599 >> Okay.

00:52:09.920 >> I say no. When the applications come and

00:52:11.839 say please we won't award you. I say no.

00:52:14.559 >> Because I'm like this right from my

00:52:17.040 school time there are any number of

00:52:20.160 sporting medals and cups that I won

00:52:22.960 >> but I never went and received them. I

00:52:25.599 always send some friend and say you

00:52:27.040 receive it, you keep it

00:52:29.359 >> because I I'm like that. It doesn't mean

00:52:32.400 anything to me. So I'm the only living

00:52:36.079 Indian who has received three

00:52:38.000 presidential awards from three different

00:52:39.920 presidents.

00:52:41.359 >> I'm saying this because the next

00:52:43.359 question is BJP is giving you all these

00:52:46.000 awards not in BJP government. during the

00:52:49.520 Congress was in power.

00:52:51.280 >> I received two,

00:52:52.720 >> right?

00:52:53.280 >> One during BJP. All right. Somebody has

00:52:56.720 to be in power.

00:52:58.319 >> Yeah,

00:53:00.160 that's inevitable.

00:53:02.319 And uh can you talk about

00:53:13.520 the factory building?

00:53:16.400 I'll tell you the story.

00:53:19.119 Somebody gives a complaint.

00:53:20.800 >> Mhm.

00:53:21.760 >> That we have built a factory shed

00:53:24.079 without permission.

00:53:26.559 So investigation.

00:53:29.599 >> So they come. The collector comes along

00:53:32.640 with his few officers.

00:53:34.079 >> Mhm.

00:53:35.920 >> And uh collector looks around and he

00:53:38.640 says uh where is the factory shed? M

00:53:42.319 >> this officer points out Adyogi

00:53:46.000 collector says what a factory shed

00:53:49.440 >> this is a monument they have taken

00:53:51.280 permission for the monument

00:53:52.800 >> right

00:53:54.079 >> he says no in my opinion it's a factory

00:53:56.960 shed inside there are metal members

00:53:58.880 outside there's metal sheet so it's a

00:54:01.359 factory shed

00:54:03.280 who is this guy tell me

00:54:06.400 you must guess who it is

00:54:10.319 so I'm saying

00:54:13.040 because

00:54:14.559 of the immense success

00:54:17.040 on all spheres whatever we do we are the

00:54:20.079 largest ecological moment in the world

00:54:21.920 right now do you understand

00:54:23.440 >> our cavary calling is a model for entire

00:54:25.599 tropical world this what the UN agencies

00:54:27.440 are saying not me I thought it's just a

00:54:29.680 sample when I told them when I told the

00:54:32.400 director general of UNCCCD that we just

00:54:35.440 created a sample project so that it can

00:54:37.359 be done he looked at the size and said

00:54:39.280 sguru this is the largest project. What

00:54:41.440 are you saying is a sample? I said it

00:54:43.760 doesn't solve any problem yet. It needs

00:54:46.319 to grow 100 times more for it to become

00:54:49.119 a real solution.

00:54:50.240 >> Right?

00:54:50.960 >> So I think it's a sample but he thinks

00:54:52.880 it's the largest

00:54:54.319 >> project in the world.

00:54:56.480 Just about anything we are doing because

00:54:58.400 we do it well. It's a problem.

00:55:00.960 >> All right.

00:55:02.319 >> So there are some people who don't like

00:55:04.319 success. I want everybody to be

00:55:06.960 successful in whatever the hell they're

00:55:08.480 doing.

00:55:08.800 >> Right? People ask me so guru bless my

00:55:11.040 child.

00:55:13.040 Parents are shocked. I said do whatever

00:55:14.880 the hell you want. Just do it well.

00:55:16.480 That's all.

00:55:17.920 >> If you don't do it well, it's a waste of

00:55:19.839 life, isn't it?

00:55:22.079 Whether you want to study or you want to

00:55:24.480 create a business or you want to dance

00:55:26.480 or you want to just be a joker, do it

00:55:28.880 well. Huh?

00:55:31.040 >> In everything there is something, isn't

00:55:32.640 it?

00:55:32.960 >> Right?

00:55:33.520 >> If you do it well,

00:55:35.839 most important thing is you do it well.

00:55:38.720 That's what they don't like, right?

00:55:41.760 And if you talk about the experience

00:55:42.960 there,

00:55:49.760 can we can we talk about that experience

00:55:51.520 when you come? I'm

00:55:52.400 >> I'm planning to come this year

00:55:53.920 hopefully.

00:55:54.319 >> I'm planning. Okay,

00:55:57.200 >> you're not coming. It's all right.

00:55:58.480 >> No, no,

00:56:00.640 but yeah, definitely I'll I'll make sure

00:56:02.000 I'll come this time.

00:56:02.720 >> But you think it's a Mongolian or

00:56:04.319 something?

00:56:07.280 square city

00:56:09.280 >> of course and uh I'll make sure I'll

00:56:11.280 come that this time and if we can talk

00:56:13.280 about the uh experience there for the

00:56:15.119 viewers who are watching who could not

00:56:16.559 come there at least if they can plan

00:56:19.119 >> see

00:56:20.799 it is the only event like that on the

00:56:23.839 planet right once again in terms of size

00:56:26.720 and its significance in terms of size

00:56:29.760 last year our video views on that day

00:56:33.040 life was

00:56:35.920 142 million

00:56:37.280 >> people. All right. It's the highest.

00:56:40.000 It's more than the Grammy Awards. It's

00:56:41.839 bigger than the Super Bowl in America.

00:56:44.400 >> In America, Super Bowl is considered the

00:56:46.559 biggest thing. Right.

00:56:47.440 >> 32nd ad there costs some millions and

00:56:49.920 millions. Okay.

00:56:51.359 >> This is bigger than that and it's all

00:56:53.119 free. Out of people's love and devotion,

00:56:55.599 they contribute and from that it is run.

00:56:58.079 But as you said 2 months before

00:57:00.880 Mahashatri we have to take caveats in

00:57:03.680 Supreme Court in high court in this

00:57:06.319 state in that state because there are

00:57:08.000 people waiting to somehow stop it.

00:57:10.240 >> If they get one court order on some

00:57:12.000 flimsy nonsense

00:57:13.920 >> they can stop it. Why do they want to

00:57:15.839 stop it? Tell me.

00:57:17.280 >> That's a question even I had.

00:57:18.400 >> That is the thing. You're not living in

00:57:20.240 this country. If you open your eyes and

00:57:22.079 ears and look around all the time, the

00:57:25.119 agenda is on to stop anything that of

00:57:27.839 civilizational significance

00:57:29.680 >> always. It's going on

00:57:32.960 >> a clearcut agenda, wellunded agenda

00:57:36.079 >> going on. So we are at the receiving end

00:57:38.799 of that agenda all the time.

00:57:41.760 >> So it is in that sense is the largest

00:57:44.400 event. We we limit the people who come

00:57:47.599 there to about 800,000. That's about 8

00:57:50.720 lakh people

00:57:51.920 >> because beyond that we could end up with

00:57:53.839 stampedes and hunting. So we create

00:57:56.160 proper barriers and fully manage

00:57:58.319 thousands of volunteers. We train them

00:58:00.319 for a few months. It's not run by the

00:58:03.040 police. Police come only if some big VIP

00:58:05.599 comes.

00:58:06.480 >> Yeah.

00:58:07.200 >> Otherwise it's fully run by us. Trained

00:58:10.559 volunteers for all this without a single

00:58:13.119 incident. Such a large event it's not

00:58:14.960 easy.

00:58:15.680 >> Right. You know to what extent they are

00:58:17.839 going

00:58:19.040 >> they are coming and offering a few

00:58:20.720 thousand rupees to the forest god and

00:58:23.119 saying chase one elephant into

00:58:25.520 mahashivaratri event.

00:58:26.960 >> Oh my god

00:58:28.079 >> we caught them because the forest god

00:58:31.680 didn't want to do it but suppose he took

00:58:33.839 the money and chased an elephant

00:58:36.720 they don't mind if a few dozen people

00:58:39.119 die.

00:58:40.480 >> They want to defame us that's all.

00:58:42.319 >> How cruel is it?

00:58:43.440 >> Huh?

00:58:43.760 >> How cruel is it?

00:58:45.599 what all cruel things have happened in

00:58:47.200 this country in the last few hundred

00:58:48.559 years do you know and it continues to

00:58:50.880 happen even today

00:58:53.119 so this is how it is so it's a largest

00:58:55.280 event even all that we have to take care

00:58:57.520 of our volunteers are there along with

00:59:00.000 the gods forest gods watching what's

00:59:02.319 happening

00:59:02.799 >> right

00:59:03.520 >> by nature they won't come into our

00:59:05.280 property unless somebody chases them

00:59:07.920 with

00:59:09.040 >> if if they chase it with firecrackers

00:59:11.200 and things it may come otherwise they

00:59:13.200 never come this way. They have their own

00:59:15.680 terrain. They go that way. We are not in

00:59:18.079 their way anywhere. We are not in the

00:59:20.720 way of any elephant movement because we

00:59:23.520 are agricultural lands and people have

00:59:25.680 been doing agriculture. They have puta

00:59:28.000 from 1936.

00:59:30.000 All the lands that we bought people have

00:59:32.400 proper pa from 1936.

00:59:35.680 Suddenly how did it become forest?

00:59:39.119 People have been farming it.

00:59:42.000 >> So they were farming in the forest. Is

00:59:43.839 it

00:59:45.920 just ridiculous nonsense anyway?

00:59:47.680 >> Yeah.

00:59:48.400 >> So it is the largest event 12 hours from

00:59:52.480 evening 6 to morning 6. This is the only

00:59:56.960 event like this without alcohol and

00:59:59.680 drugs. Full 12 hours people are

01:00:01.680 participating with full enthusiasm.

01:00:04.480 >> Music, dance, meditation, talks,

01:00:06.640 everything happening full on. Even

01:00:08.960 little children stay awake for full

01:00:10.720 night till morning six o'clock

01:00:12.960 >> because that's a kind of energy and

01:00:14.799 enthusiasm that's created there.

01:00:16.960 >> This is not coming out of some magic.

01:00:19.440 It's people's devotion, people's love

01:00:21.440 for what's happening there.

01:00:23.119 >> When I first started this in 1984

01:00:26.720 >> Mhm.

01:00:27.520 >> We had 70 people participating in the

01:00:30.319 Mahasharat 3.

01:00:31.520 >> Right.

01:00:32.240 >> Okay. 70 people.

01:00:35.200 Today it's 142 million people. last

01:00:37.599 year. This year it'll be more

01:00:39.040 >> virtually. Yes.

01:00:39.839 >> Because in 2025 our videos have crossed

01:00:43.920 over 6 billion views. This only on our

01:00:47.119 platforms. There are at least a thousand

01:00:49.920 or more platforms which are propagating

01:00:52.799 our content by themselves

01:00:54.960 >> because we've left our archives open.

01:00:56.799 Anybody wants content, we just give

01:00:59.359 >> because the important thing is we reach

01:01:02.160 people. It's not about me. It's not

01:01:04.640 about Isha Foundation. This is the first

01:01:07.599 time in the history of humanity that you

01:01:10.240 can almost talk to everybody on the

01:01:12.319 planet.

01:01:12.799 >> Right? Many great beings have come. When

01:01:16.559 they spoke, hardly 10 people could hear.

01:01:20.240 A Krishna came.

01:01:22.480 >> He manages to speak to one guy and that

01:01:25.520 fool has so many doubts.

01:01:28.880 Yes or no? A Jesus came. He speaks to 12

01:01:32.160 people and one guy freaked on him. M

01:01:35.280 >> a Buddha comes he speaks to a few

01:01:37.040 hundred or a thousand people.

01:01:40.480 This is the first time we can sit here

01:01:42.160 and talk to the entire world. When there

01:01:44.319 is such a possibility if we do not

01:01:46.880 transform human life, it simply means we

01:01:49.680 have no love in our hearts. I am not

01:01:51.760 that person. That's all.

01:01:53.440 >> You're definitely a marketing genius is

01:01:54.799 what I personally feel.

01:01:55.760 >> You call this marketing?

01:01:57.520 >> Of course. Utilizing the technology to

01:01:59.040 reach the I mean distribute the content

01:02:00.480 to the best possible ways.

01:02:03.119 See

01:02:05.520 this is something we need to understand.

01:02:07.119 The moment you call people market

01:02:09.520 >> okay

01:02:10.319 >> I think it's vulgar.

01:02:11.599 >> No I feel

01:02:12.319 >> I I tried to change this in the world

01:02:14.160 economic forum.

01:02:15.119 >> Okay.

01:02:15.359 >> They were calling India the emerging

01:02:17.119 market. I said we are not a market. We

01:02:19.359 are people.

01:02:20.720 >> Treat us as people. We will support your

01:02:23.040 business.

01:02:25.680 >> Tell me which product in the world will

01:02:28.720 be successful. A product that everybody

01:02:31.359 needs or a product that you sell

01:02:33.359 strongly.

01:02:34.319 >> Huh? The product which which we sell

01:02:36.799 strongly.

01:02:37.440 >> Really? You are?

01:02:39.119 >> No. That is how they market it, right?

01:02:40.720 >> No. The product that people need is a

01:02:43.680 natural success, isn't it?

01:02:46.880 >> If I need to get to know about that,

01:02:48.240 I'll have to see the

01:02:48.960 >> Let's say Google is successful. Why?

01:02:51.200 Because everybody needs it.

01:02:52.559 >> That's because of the reach, sir.

01:02:54.000 >> Huh?

01:02:54.480 >> That's because of the reach, right?

01:02:56.559 >> No, no, that's not what I'm saying.

01:02:59.200 See, I'm taking Google as an example.

01:03:01.920 That's one of the largest things.

01:03:04.319 >> Why is it successful? Because everybody

01:03:06.160 needs it.

01:03:06.880 >> Yeah.

01:03:07.520 >> Why do you think ISA Foundation is

01:03:09.280 successful? Because everybody needs it.

01:03:12.640 But

01:03:15.359 is it my business to make them know that

01:03:17.680 what they need is available?

01:03:21.359 And is there something wrong with that?

01:03:22.880 >> No. No. Of course not.

01:03:23.920 >> It's like this. Let's say the whole of

01:03:26.240 Hyderabad city is thirsty and they don't

01:03:28.720 have water.

01:03:30.079 >> But in your house in the backyard, you

01:03:31.920 have a well, nice good water, sweet

01:03:34.160 water.

01:03:34.559 >> Yeah.

01:03:35.359 >> You just close your eyes and sit.

01:03:38.400 If they find it, they can drink.

01:03:39.920 Otherwise, it's not my business.

01:03:42.640 >> I think you are a criminal.

01:03:45.359 Yes or no?

01:03:46.720 >> Yeah.

01:03:47.520 >> It's your business to stand on the

01:03:49.039 rooftop and shout, "There is water here.

01:03:50.720 Please drink." That's all I'm doing. You

01:03:52.880 want

01:03:53.280 >> I understand. I understand. But

01:03:54.400 marketing is not a negative word, right?

01:03:56.319 >> I'm I'm not telling that it's a negative

01:03:57.520 thing.

01:03:57.760 >> No, I'm not I'm not reacting to your

01:03:59.920 words. I'm telling you to your listeners

01:04:02.640 also,

01:04:03.760 >> please understand what it is.

01:04:06.799 >> It's just like this. You have something

01:04:08.559 that everybody needs,

01:04:10.640 >> but they don't know.

01:04:13.039 Should I tell them or no?

01:04:15.440 And anyway, let me tell you this. In all

01:04:18.240 these years,

01:04:20.640 we have never hired PR agencies or

01:04:23.440 marketing companies.

01:04:25.200 >> It's all the love of volunteers

01:04:28.480 >> because it's impacted their life. They

01:04:30.400 want to make sure it happens,

01:04:31.839 >> right?

01:04:33.039 >> Not professional marketing.

01:04:35.520 So wherever sometimes they've gone and

01:04:37.599 consulted some professional marketing

01:04:39.280 agencies they say the way you guys are

01:04:41.680 doing we can't do it

01:04:44.480 because we are 7 days 20 hours a day 365

01:04:48.640 days because we are not doing something

01:04:52.319 as a business to get something. This is

01:04:55.359 a life suffering. This our breath

01:04:59.119 we breathe like this right? So we you

01:05:01.920 can't stop breathing.

01:05:04.559 That's all it is. Anything that we do,

01:05:06.559 it's the same thing.

01:05:08.079 >> It's an offering to make sure somehow

01:05:10.319 people experience it one way or the

01:05:11.920 other. Right. And

01:05:15.280 existence.

01:05:20.559 I was shocked.

01:05:27.680 You sang something.

01:05:31.680 I wanted to ask you if I ask you same

01:05:39.760 why do I exist I think everyone should

01:05:42.640 ask this question I was asking myself

01:05:44.640 couple of times maybe

01:05:47.359 for for those people who can understand

01:05:48.720 this concept if I ask you that what is

01:05:51.839 the concept of existence what should a

01:05:53.839 person think about

01:05:58.319 >> you think existence is The concept your

01:06:00.720 concept

01:06:02.319 >> a question

01:06:03.119 >> that's very very arrogant

01:06:04.640 >> are you

01:06:06.400 >> the intention is not that

01:06:07.599 >> no no no I know that but this is the

01:06:11.440 problem I told you know that you may be

01:06:16.240 Indian

01:06:17.280 >> but your mind is European fundamentally

01:06:19.359 because education is that right

01:06:22.799 >> because it's all about concepts and

01:06:24.720 theories and thoughts and stuff it's not

01:06:27.440 about that even if you don't exist

01:06:29.280 Existence was there, isn't it?

01:06:31.920 >> You think it's here because of you? Some

01:06:33.599 European guy said, Decartis said, I

01:06:36.559 think so I exist.

01:06:40.240 Great intellectual brilliance it is

01:06:42.400 considered. I'm asking you

01:06:44.799 >> is it because you think you exist or

01:06:46.799 because you exist you may think

01:06:49.039 >> because I'm existing I'm thinking.

01:06:50.559 >> Yes. But I think so I exist is a very

01:06:55.680 brilliant philosophy elsewhere.

01:06:58.160 >> In India, we don't think a damn about

01:07:00.160 it. You need to understand because we

01:07:02.400 don't give any significance to human

01:07:04.079 thought because it's just churning out

01:07:05.920 the same data in many permutations and

01:07:08.559 combinations. Nothing new will ever be

01:07:10.720 explored. So we always looked at how to

01:07:14.079 go deeper than our own mental structure,

01:07:17.680 than our own psychological process. So

01:07:19.839 we don't give any significance to that.

01:07:22.240 >> So there are no concepts, there are no

01:07:24.160 philosophies, there are no ideologies,

01:07:26.240 >> right?

01:07:26.799 >> But you can sharpen your perception and

01:07:29.280 know something more than what you know

01:07:30.799 right now.

01:07:32.319 >> That's why we call it technologies for

01:07:34.079 wellbeing. See right now you and me are

01:07:37.599 talking

01:07:39.039 >> but now because of this instrument of

01:07:41.359 this technology

01:07:43.520 a million people can listen.

01:07:45.200 >> Very true.

01:07:47.680 So if I shout from here will million

01:07:49.839 people hear no we use the technology.

01:07:53.920 What is technology? Just enhancement of

01:07:56.319 our perception. Isn't it?

01:07:58.400 >> Somebody speaking somewhere. If I hold

01:08:00.079 my phone here they're somewhere in

01:08:02.319 United States I can hear them here.

01:08:04.160 >> Right?

01:08:04.960 >> Enhancement of perception or no

01:08:07.680 >> this you can do even without physical

01:08:10.480 technology. You see better you hear

01:08:12.880 better. You see everything much deeper

01:08:15.280 than the way you're seeing. Then you

01:08:17.198 know something more.

01:08:19.120 >> Otherwise you're thinking it up. What

01:08:21.520 you think up has no significant

01:08:24.319 thing. It's good for transactional life.

01:08:26.479 You may do your business little better,

01:08:28.399 >> right?

01:08:28.799 >> But you will not know anything

01:08:30.000 significant. Life will not become more

01:08:32.560 significant. You may be a little more

01:08:34.719 successful than somebody else.

01:08:36.799 >> If your whole thing is about enjoying

01:08:38.560 other people's failures,

01:08:40.719 it's okay. Otherwise it doesn't mean

01:08:43.600 anything.

01:08:46.080 >> Right. And uh to end the end end the

01:08:48.479 podcast uh one point I want to ask you.

01:08:50.960 You keep talking about mental health or

01:08:53.040 mental wellness.

01:08:54.158 >> I don't keep talking about it

01:08:55.600 >> multiple times. You've mentioned about

01:08:56.880 >> no

01:08:57.759 >> WH is saying there's going to pandemic

01:09:01.439 >> and you also you also have a different

01:09:03.120 opinion on the psychologist or

01:09:04.560 psychiatrists. I didn't understand that

01:09:06.319 contradiction.

01:09:08.158 See

01:09:11.198 if you think ill health is natural

01:09:13.920 >> Mhm.

01:09:15.198 you are committing a crime on this

01:09:16.719 planet,

01:09:17.359 >> right?

01:09:17.920 >> Whether physical or mental, I'm saying

01:09:21.198 >> health is natural.

01:09:23.120 >> Ill health happens

01:09:25.198 here and there, it happens,

01:09:26.640 >> right?

01:09:26.960 >> When it happens, we need a doctor.

01:09:29.520 >> But if you talk about physical ill

01:09:31.920 health

01:09:33.679 nearly 70% of physical ill health is

01:09:38.000 chronic,

01:09:39.439 >> that means you manufacture this ill

01:09:41.600 health. about 30% infections this that

01:09:45.198 happens for all that we have created

01:09:47.359 various medicines vaccines this that

01:09:49.839 everything

01:09:51.359 what you get from outside is an invasion

01:09:53.759 from another organism

01:09:55.440 >> if that happens please go to the doctor

01:09:57.520 immediately fix it

01:09:58.560 >> right

01:09:59.520 >> but from within yourself if you're

01:10:01.199 creating an ailment should you should

01:10:03.360 you not sit down and look why am I doing

01:10:05.040 this

01:10:06.000 >> because nobody wants ill health but

01:10:07.920 they're manufacturing it

01:10:10.640 the same goes for mental health

01:10:13.520 >> it is largely being manufactured within

01:10:15.520 you. Well, there may be genetic reasons.

01:10:18.000 There may be pathological conditions in

01:10:19.920 somebody but still that number is very

01:10:22.800 small. They need to be treated

01:10:24.480 differently.

01:10:25.679 >> Most of the others are becoming mentally

01:10:28.800 ill because of their reactions to social

01:10:31.600 situations in which they exist.

01:10:34.400 They are not strengthening the

01:10:36.320 foundations of their psychological

01:10:37.920 process in such a way that they can go

01:10:40.239 through life untouched by the process of

01:10:42.560 life. Every small thing throws them off.

01:10:45.600 Why have you made yourself like this?

01:10:50.000 Why are we creating such a population?

01:10:53.280 Because we think a doctor should fix us.

01:10:56.400 >> So in that context I have said

01:10:59.600 you it's like this. Can I tell you a

01:11:02.560 joke

01:11:02.960 >> please?

01:11:04.159 >> This happened in the Chennai Marina

01:11:05.840 beach.

01:11:06.480 >> Okay.

01:11:07.760 >> A man was walking.

01:11:09.120 >> Mhm.

01:11:10.000 >> A young boy comes. Sir, toothbrush, sir.

01:11:12.560 Early morning walk.

01:11:13.920 >> Toothbrush, sir. Toothbrush. Toothbrush,

01:11:15.520 sir. 1,000 rupees.

01:11:18.000 >> He says, "Hey, go."

01:11:20.960 But he keeps on instincting. Then he

01:11:22.239 says, "You're rogue. A toothbrush is

01:11:24.159 1,000 rupees. What nonsense is this?"

01:11:27.520 He says, "Okay, sir." And he puts his

01:11:28.960 hand in the bag and pulls out a small

01:11:30.640 plastic

01:11:31.840 bag.

01:11:32.400 >> Mhm.

01:11:32.880 >> Little packet. And he says, "Sir,

01:11:35.280 homemade cookies, sir. Just two rupees."

01:11:38.640 Said, "Okay." Just to get rid of him. He

01:11:40.719 gave him two rupees and taken it. He

01:11:42.880 opened it and put it in his mouth. Said,

01:11:44.480 "Yuck. It tastes like shit."

01:11:47.600 >> The boy says, "It is sir. How about the

01:11:49.920 toothbrush sir?"

01:11:52.000 >> So we are handling problems like this,

01:11:54.560 >> right?

01:11:55.360 >> Religions have handled problems like

01:11:57.199 this. They make you feel guilty of

01:12:00.320 everything that you do in your life.

01:12:02.480 They make you fearful of everything

01:12:04.000 you're even god-fearing.

01:12:06.480 >> Fear, guilt, these things are not great

01:12:09.920 emotions. It debilitates a human being.

01:12:12.400 You create that and for that you create

01:12:15.199 pricham also.

01:12:17.280 >> Then if you pay for everything money is

01:12:19.199 involved. If you pay money, they will

01:12:20.719 release you from that guilt. In all

01:12:22.880 religions, I'm saying

01:12:25.520 it's there or no.

01:12:26.400 >> Yeah. So similarly you make yourself

01:12:29.360 sick and then

01:12:31.920 >> you need a doctor. I am saying why the

01:12:35.040 hell don't you understand your health is

01:12:37.840 your responsibility.

01:12:39.600 Beyond that if something goes wrong like

01:12:42.239 me you went and banged your head on the

01:12:43.840 wall or something else then you need

01:12:47.360 doctor's help.

01:12:48.159 >> Yeah. You broke your head you need

01:12:50.800 doctor's help. You broke your bones you

01:12:52.480 need doctor's help. But to sit here

01:12:55.840 peacefully, why do you need doctor's

01:12:57.280 help?

01:12:59.360 You're doing something wrong, isn't it?

01:13:01.120 >> Yeah.

01:13:02.640 Should you not understand that? You

01:13:04.800 think a doctor can come and fix the

01:13:06.960 whole population?

01:13:08.960 A few small percentage of sick people a

01:13:11.120 doctor can fix.

01:13:12.800 >> Whole population he can fix.

01:13:16.000 Then you have to make 50% of the

01:13:18.239 population into doctors, psychiatrists

01:13:20.800 or medical doctors. Is that a good

01:13:23.600 society?

01:13:24.239 >> No.

01:13:24.800 >> So that's all I'm saying. Your

01:13:26.800 individual health is your

01:13:28.000 responsibility. You must make it your

01:13:31.120 business to say stay physically,

01:13:32.800 mentally healthy.

01:13:34.400 >> Beyond that something goes wrong, there

01:13:36.000 is a doctor.

01:13:38.800 No, the whole world is turning like this

01:13:41.600 right now. For example, United States

01:13:44.080 >> is the richest nation on the planet as

01:13:45.920 of now.

01:13:46.640 >> Yeah. Why wealth is

01:13:50.239 attractive for people is whether it's an

01:13:52.880 individual or a society or a nation. Why

01:13:54.880 everybody is trying to be wealthy is

01:13:57.199 initially when wealth comes you have a

01:13:59.600 choice of nourishment. You can eat the

01:14:01.600 best possible things that's good for

01:14:03.040 you.

01:14:04.400 >> Next thing is you can have a choice of

01:14:06.159 lifestyles.

01:14:07.120 >> Right?

01:14:08.480 >> So this is a country where there is a an

01:14:11.520 an absolute choice about nourishment and

01:14:14.719 lifestyle.

01:14:16.880 What is their healthcare bill? $4.2

01:14:19.760 trillion.

01:14:22.080 It's about the size of our entire

01:14:23.760 economy for 1.4 billion people. There

01:14:26.480 are 350 million people. For 350 million

01:14:29.760 people, you are spending equal amount

01:14:32.640 that we our entire economy is. Is that a

01:14:36.640 healthy nation? I'm asking

01:14:40.000 because there are insurance companies,

01:14:42.239 there are medical companies, there are

01:14:43.679 corporations, there are all kinds of

01:14:45.520 things. Everybody has to be fed.

01:14:48.800 >> The better way is to feed yourself,

01:14:50.719 right?

01:14:53.840 Sickness will come one way or the other

01:14:56.640 for everybody at some point. If not

01:14:58.480 sickness, injury will come, something

01:15:00.080 will come. For that, we need doctors.

01:15:04.400 Everybody thinks it's their right to be

01:15:06.080 sick. M

01:15:07.600 >> it's not your right to be sick. It's

01:15:10.080 your business to be healthy. Isn't it?

01:15:12.159 >> Very true.

01:15:13.679 >> Do some yoga.

01:15:15.040 >> Absolutely.

01:15:16.800 >> And all the doctors don't believe I'm

01:15:18.640 like this. They said I'll have cognition

01:15:20.719 loss. I'll have faculty losses. Two

01:15:23.120 surgeries in a row. And they told me

01:15:24.880 sguru there is no such thing as a third

01:15:26.719 surgery. If you again go and play

01:15:29.040 football, head the ball like this, do

01:15:31.040 this, there is no third surgery.

01:15:34.000 >> Two surgeries have been done. There is

01:15:35.920 no such thing as third surgery for you.

01:15:38.080 Don't go on the motorcycle.

01:15:39.920 >> But still you're going

01:15:41.199 >> of course and uh

01:15:44.960 when I went to Kalash

01:15:46.719 >> which is challenging because

01:15:48.239 >> after the surgeries right

01:15:49.199 >> yeah after surgery

01:15:50.640 >> altitude is there

01:15:52.320 >> right

01:15:53.040 >> we are going up to nearly 18,000 plus

01:15:57.600 >> if I tell my doctor he will say no you

01:16:00.000 cannot go. So I went and from there I

01:16:02.239 called him. He said what to do? I'm

01:16:04.320 seeing the social media post that said

01:16:05.920 guru you're already there what can I do

01:16:08.320 it uh

01:16:10.800 anywhere you will go even if I say I

01:16:13.679 said okay I'm doing fine no problem and

01:16:16.320 he said just stay on the paved roads

01:16:18.159 don't go on mud tracks

01:16:20.880 >> because that's where the risk is

01:16:22.239 >> right

01:16:23.280 >> but next day I went on a very

01:16:25.040 treacherous mud track seriously

01:16:27.679 treacherous mud track with wet mud

01:16:29.679 tracks

01:16:31.040 >> and I fell

01:16:34.880 I didn't knock my head. I got up and

01:16:36.480 rode on.

01:16:40.719 >> I'm saying either

01:16:43.760 in the name of safety and security you

01:16:46.400 don't live your life or you live your

01:16:48.080 life. You may live, you may die. Anyway,

01:16:50.640 everybody will die. They must know,

01:16:52.159 right?

01:16:52.400 >> It's a reminder for all of them.

01:16:54.239 >> Everybody dies.

01:16:56.960 >> But they think only other people die.

01:16:59.120 I'm trying to remind them you also die.

01:17:02.239 >> This is not out of some sadistic

01:17:03.920 satisfaction to tell people you'll die,

01:17:05.760 you'll die. To make them understand

01:17:08.239 there's a limited amount of time.

01:17:10.080 >> Correct? Make the greatest possibility

01:17:12.960 in your life possible when there is such

01:17:15.120 limited amount of time. Don't do one

01:17:17.280 damn thing that doesn't mean anything to

01:17:18.880 you. Don't do one damn thing that's

01:17:20.719 against yourself.

01:17:22.480 >> And you'll have no time to do anything

01:17:24.159 against anybody because uh it's

01:17:27.120 precious. You don't want to waste the

01:17:29.040 little time that you have in this life

01:17:31.120 doing some rubbish about somebody or

01:17:32.880 yourself.

01:17:34.320 >> Right?

01:17:34.640 >> I have no time.

01:17:35.840 >> Right? And uh I was about to ask you an

01:17:38.080 advice but advice of chi any small line

01:17:40.880 in Telugu to end the podcast with

01:17:42.800 because our is a Telugu podcast.

01:17:50.640 >> Enough. No one line the four lines are

01:17:53.520 little hard to digest for them.

01:17:57.840 line. Okay,

01:17:58.880 >> thank you very much. Namaste.